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that's about the only way to go about it

just let it come to you, you'll know when the switch takes place

some try OH SO HARD to convert, NOW !

get good gear, some good juice and allow it to happen - it will :)

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I only smoked from May 13 to December 2nd. I don't think I've smoked a full pack of cigarettes since then. There was a bit of self inflicted equipment failure and there was a moment of weakness but eventually I just stopped bringing my cigarettes with me. I even threw away 15 when they were stale. Once my istick shows up Monday to back up my MVP I figure I'll have no excuse to smoke again.
 
Here I had set a date early last year to stop the regular habit and to quit entirely before the year was out in the 2013 New Year's res. The last carton was bought in Marck .13 and I went a full month cold turkey having not finished every pack to note the end result of 100% vaping for the full month of April.

Well those few packs were miserable to finish! And at the end of June someone close got seriously ill and I ended up with a few more! But once those were gone in early July I can pass right by anyone I know who still lights up and not even think about it! There's no urges left! And simply keeping a spare battery or device with me at all times also means if something fails it gets replaced on the spot. I never count 100% on any one battery or device since I had batteries and a mod fail sooner then they should have as well as planning on having multiple "Battery for every occasion" as some call it.
 

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I had a brand new pack the day I got my Green Smoke starter kit thingy. Bouncing back and forth, the pack lasted a week since I just smoked that "bedtime smoke" but once it was gone I just went for it.. Got my Evod a week later, MVP a couple weeks after that, etc, etc.. This shinyitis crap is just as bad as all my guitar/recording toys!!!
 
When I first started back in Sept. 2012 there wasn't any information on the first MVP even at the time while I was later pointed at the first Vamo V2 I tried out. Meanwhile for anyone considering jumping on the 20w version now out the deal just seen is one not to miss out on! iTaste MVP 20W (20 Watt) $31.99 SHIP'D | Best Vape Deals
 

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Hardwares can play the most important role besides the tanks and what goes in! When first starting off the disposables and prefilled cig size wasn't going to cut it but didn't know back then what I do now!
I went the first six months into 2013 knowing when once I got into some better 1.6ml clearomizers as well as some Twists and a Spinner.
The quit of smoke was much easier by then having already cut way back to only 3 packs a week from just over a half pack a day.

Even before that came I was already vaping with 0% nicotine since

I put to the test what a then brand new eliquids vendor was finding that with or without didn't seem to make any difference what's so ever!

The only thing found to be effected was often just a simple change in the flavor which is less by a small percentage as well as how the flavors vaped

usually a bit warmer with nicotine present compared to vaping the exact without.

Once you have grown accustomed to vaping the nicotine actually becomes far removed where it simply becomes an option not a necessity.

I don’t agree with that
either you’re addited to nicotine being in your body , or not...

IF you can wean your addiction to a lower % or 0%-Great
but a ‘majic juice’ that just changing flavors will curb your need… ??
now if you are not addicted or DON’T NEED NIC in your system,
then you might be addicted to ‘habit’
- hand to mouth / smoke or vapor from your mouth / the act of,
but that wouldn’t be a NIC addition,
which is cured by introducing NIC into your system…

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I had a brand new pack the day I got my Green Smoke starter kit thingy. Bouncing back and forth, the pack lasted a week since I just smoked that "bedtime smoke" but once it was gone I just went for it.. Got my Evod a week later, MVP a couple weeks after that, etc, etc.. This shinyitis crap is just as bad as all my guitar/recording toys!!!

sorta how I went about it
had about 60-80 DIY (RYO) cigs, and some cig-a-likes…
played with both till RYO was gone, realized I needed better e cig
evod, MVP, never smoked again

and now as you say, hobby-itis it a heavy burden :D
 
I don’t agree with that
either you’re addited to nicotine being in your body , or not...

IF you can wean your addiction to a lower % or 0%-Great
but a ‘majic juice’ that just changing flavors will curb your need… ??
now if you are not addicted or DON’T NEED NIC in your system,
then you might be addicted to ‘habit’
- hand to mouth / smoke or vapor from your mouth / the act of,
but that wouldn’t be a NIC addition,
which is cured by introducing NIC into your system…

:blink:

Nicotine by itself isn't more for most people then caffeine would be. It acts like a stimulent to increase adrenalin. Now the big difference from smoking to vaping is going from chemically spiked yes "SPIKED" tobacco products intended to interact with nicotine once in the body especially the euphoric sensations taking place in the brain once other elements enhance this in order to make life time customers out of people and why Big T was called out before Congress back in 1994! They got called out for all the lies passed onto the public in general and how they laced things to keep people hooked like a ...... addict!

Once away from smoke and the 4000+ plus chemicals the body starts to clean itself and the initial vaping sees the average 18-24mg of nicotine with some vendors offering the Ultra High 36mg level in their ejuice is still a large drop from the 60mg or more absorbed from just one regular tobacco cig. You would need 60-120mg as the level to come close to in vapor what is absorbed from smoke! You are already weaned off of nicotine after just a few months at 18mg due to how little nic is actually absorbed from vapor in comparison to smoke. The rest is the change of habit as far as the type of experience going from smoking to vaping which takes time to get accustomed to.

But as several others have been finding as well as a friend who quit a 4 pack a day habit we all came to the same conclusion that there was no longer any effect being noticed with or without nicotine present in the ejuice being vaped. The vaping experience as well as how nicotine effected flavor was what proved to be the more dominant effects being noticed. There was no "Magic Ejuice formula" but a reality check as far as what was being found through personal discovery. And it's not just my own findings but when in conversations here and elsewhere some will be always mention being able to vape 0% nicotine in a very short period of time once they are able to leave tobacco behind.

Others on the other hand continue to fool themselves after the years of public brain washing the media has reported on that nicotine by itself is so so far addictive you must get help from Big Pharma and use the patch or gums or other $$$$$$$$ in their pockets doesn't work rememdies! This is where reverse psychology then plays a role at breaking through the high level of "misinformation" the public has been lead to believe over decades of lies! Habits can psychologically addictive when not even physically addictive until the old mind set is gotten to with the correct information and the old stereo typical Bunk is exposed! The patches have 18mg and most know those don't work unless the will power is exerted!
 

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INSANE deal!

I just tried it and it worked! That is an insane price for this device!
I just ordered one two days ago for 35.99!

Ugh... I have to decide if I should get one or not... I lost my MVp and would like to have one again... but I have so many other mods... decisions, decisions.
 
I'm at 18 right now. Tomorrow I'm headed out to get some 24mg juice. I was doing extremely well in the beginning, and just before Thanksgiving I had equipment issues (before the MVP) and I got stressed and went beserk.


I started with 24 and from the first day never looked back, I figured I didn't need to tempt fate with trying to ween myself off one and start with another. but different strokes foe different folks. :)
 

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No one noticed no tank with it? And no universal charging cord? So for essentially the same price you get a lot less with the new 20. Outside of more power that most don't need anyway.

http://youtu.be/FX59_3JOyys

I don't need the universal cord, I have enough cords, never even used the one that came with my MVP2, it's still wrapped up in the box. I go up to and way beyond the 20W. What I value about this, is the near doubling of effective output power AND the lowered 510 connection.

I went ahead and just bought one to replace my lost MVP2.
 

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Well, actually you get a ARM32 processor and a spring loaded 510 connection as well. Plus its about half the price i paid for both my MPVs when they were "new" to the scene. Now a iClear30 can be had for $8-$10 and personally i hated the draw.

Package Contents: MVP 20W, microUSB charge cable, 510 to ego adapter
 
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No one noticed no tank with it? And no universal charging cord? So for essentially the same price you get a lot less with the new 20. Outside of more power that most don't need anyway.

http://youtu.be/FX59_3JOyys

Innokin figured that you and I have enough i30s and stopped getting rid of them by putting them in the box.
 
INSANE deal!

I just tried it and it worked! That is an insane price for this device!
I just ordered one two days ago for 35.99!

The deal there is due to special discount from going through the review site. Thats where the bargain is while the vendor's actual sale price is still $49 which is a bit steep! But I see that all too often when shopping around for some new hardware!

Ugh... I have to decide if I should get one or not... I lost my MVp and would like to have one again... but I have so many other mods... decisions, decisions.

Originally I found the MVP when asking what besides the Vamo V2 would be a good one and the 2.0 was just out last October. After getting it however while being a very reliable mod the 6-11w range was found to be too limited for what I was after and then discovered three other items of interest by January namely the eGo-V V3 Mega batteries with usb pass-through as well 3-15w range. The Smok Groove II came into focus with the same 3-15w as well as the 3800mah battery. Then add in two Smok ACEs with Aluminum bodies. I needed mod stands having just had one made for me.

The iSticks were looked and first frowned at but still ordered replacing the need to carry one of the eGo batteries around since the MVP wasn't a good quick grab while driving! And the DovPo E-LVT had been looked at for some time but didn't have the right tanks until the Atlantis and Nautilus tanks came along with both asking for a little to a bit more then the now lonely MVP could provide tnen prompting for the need to upgrade capabilities! Sub ohming on the more hefty mods without the need to rebuild RDAs RBAs was an incentive realized on Black Friday!
 

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I ordered an MVP after reading a lot here at ECF and asking for a simple recommendation. I can honestly say, it has pretty much solved my equipment problem. I think I finally have an easy tank that works for me. I just ordered another one and hope I get it before I leave to go to work New Years Day. I have other simple back-ups, but the MVP2 has been so good to me that I figured it wouldn't hurt to have another as a backup. I truly didn't see the need for me to get the newest one that is out. This one is working for me just fine.
 

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Yer missing my point, guys. Same price, less value. You can no linger charge multiple items. Just a plain cord.

Now, I never used it to charge anything anyway but the option is now gone.

As far as recommending a quick great product to a newbie... now you have to recommend a tank as well. That can get really complicated.

Not saying the MVP in any flavor is a bad piece. It's a great piece. Just got more expensive to buy. :)
 
Yer missing my point, guys. Same price, less value. You can no linger charge multiple items. Just a plain cord.

Now, I never used it to charge anything anyway but the option is now gone.

As far as recommending a quick great product to a newbie... now you have to recommend a tank as well. That can get really complicated.

Not saying the MVP in any flavor is a bad piece. It's a great piece. Just got more expensive to buy. :)

As you will recall the V1 had the problem of the switch for that sticking out too far and not being able to stand the MVP on end. The 2.0 saw the switch recessed down in where it needed to be. This time around in order to build up the capabilities as far as output they trimmed away the fat solving the old problem at the same time as eliminating the longer eGo connector in favor of the 510 threaded tanks which would handle the higher wattage.

Now for charging on the go why wear down the 2600mah battery on your mod when you can get a 12,000mah portable battery for about the same price? I recharged the two iSticks, the MVP on one occasion, plus a few eGo variable wattage batteries on the initial charge. Jackery® Giant+ Premium Portable Charger Aluminum 12000mAh Power Pac

When going to recharge the power pack seen there I was recharging two of the eGo batteries I simply kept plugged in at the same time pressing the button to acivate the charging. Of course the DovPo E-LVT just in along with the ECig V9 50w mod on order also see the output ports for charging extra devices. The VV V4 800mah batteries also see a change now 6-15w 3v-6v output which while being a slight gain is still limited by the 800mah. https://www.misthub.com/product/innokin-itaste-vv-v4-0-express-kit/
 

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sure it does, it comes with a cable, – turn it around, big USB in MVP,
and the micro USB is there to charge a LARGE MAJORITY of any device…
if you’re an apple user, probably have an adapter
- - -
"here, get one of these, but don’t bother with the tank that comes with it
get a xxx instead" – is what I always said…

a topper tank would be nice (to make a complete kit for new users that need it)
but of the 3 tanks that was previously included, their oddball quality made for a bad
experience, as far as I’m concerned…

so it doesn't come with a $4-$8 tank now, but we are seeing prices on new release $39

:)
 

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Nicotine by itself isn't more for most people then caffeine would be. It acts like a stimulent to increase adrenalin. Now the big difference from smoking to vaping is going from chemically spiked yes "SPIKED" tobacco products intended to interact with nicotine once in the body especially the euphoric sensations taking place in the brain once other elements enhance this in order to make life time customers out of people and why Big T was called out before Congress back in 1994! They got called out for all the lies passed onto the public in general and how they laced things to keep people hooked like a ...... addict!

Once away from smoke and the 4000+ plus chemicals the body starts to clean itself and the initial vaping sees the average 18-24mg of nicotine with some vendors offering the Ultra High 36mg level in their ejuice is still a large drop from the 60mg or more absorbed from just one regular tobacco cig. You would need 60-120mg as the level to come close to in vapor what is absorbed from smoke! You are already weaned off of nicotine after just a few months at 18mg due to how little nic is actually absorbed from vapor in comparison to smoke. The rest is the change of habit as far as the type of experience going from smoking to vaping which takes time to get accustomed to.

But as several others have been finding as well as a friend who quit a 4 pack a day habit we all came to the same conclusion that there was no longer any effect being noticed with or without nicotine present in the ejuice being vaped. The vaping experience as well as how nicotine effected flavor was what proved to be the more dominant effects being noticed. There was no "Magic Ejuice formula" but a reality check as far as what was being found through personal discovery. And it's not just my own findings but when in conversations here and elsewhere some will be always mention being able to vape 0% nicotine in a very short period of time once they are able to leave tobacco behind.

Others on the other hand continue to fool themselves after the years of public brain washing the media has reported on that nicotine by itself is so so far addictive you must get help from Big Pharma and use the patch or gums or other $$$$$$$$ in their pockets doesn't work rememdies! This is where reverse psychology then plays a role at breaking through the high level of "misinformation" the public has been lead to believe over decades of lies! Habits can psychologically addictive when not even physically addictive until the old mind set is gotten to with the correct information and the old stereo typical Bunk is exposed! The patches have 18mg and most know those don't work unless the will power is exerted!


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what I’ve been affectionately calling it the “INE” buzz for better than 30 yrs
I have seen many people around me affected by lack of “INE”
caffeine & nicotine has a soothing and calming effect – that I’ve seen first hand
that’s what I base my thoughts on, along with my own experience that if
12mg – 18mg was the only available NIC, - I’D STILL BE SMOKING
I have tried to get to a lower NIC level, won’t work for me at this time
happy @ 24mg (for now) and will see where it ends up…

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