NEW RoyalSmokers C-E2 R4 Review, Tips, Info, Help, Video

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stephenluke

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I am still playing with the non-spill bottle mod. One problem that I have always had with all E2's is now gone. My juice produces a good bit of condensation. Occasionally it gets in the mouthpiece and intake tube. With this mod, it ALL drips back into the reservoir.

I've had very good luck with capping the ceramic cup with the white mouthpiece of a shorty e2. The grooves are deeper than the XL. It can easily be moved up or down if it's mounted inside the mouthpiece so you could leave it uncapped to vape and slide it down to prevent leaks when you're not. I understand you're not looking to cap the cup, but in my experience I haven't noticed a great difference in vapor between a capped cup and an open reservoir. I don't get condensation if the mouthpiece is 1/8" above the cup. Even if your experience with the open reservoir is superior to a capped cup, the convenience of being able to leak proof might be handy. Theoretically, it shouldn't make a difference of the cap is 1/8" or 1/2" above the cup in the open reservoir concept.
 

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That was one of the pictures, I broght it here because it shows the gunk that I don't want.
The coil or wick needs to be serviceable.



Any mod that allows the user to service the wick and coil with ease will be greatly appreciated.

I wonder if thicker coil would help? Then you could make just one or two twist around wicking material. This would help get rid of that burning stuff and it would be easier to clean. Has anyone tried to replace that wick to something thicker?
 

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I'm pretty satisfied with the E2s now that I'm boiling them first and using only the middle ring and drip tip.

That's a good idea. I've been vaping around the house all weekend with just the center ring and all going well. Wicking is good and little leaking with 30% vg but I'm using manual devices so a little leaking not an issue. But I'm heading out in a bit with three mods. This time they'll all be in my drink cup but later I will try the cap when they may be jostled around.

Are you trimming the little lip off of the top cap?

I've looked at about eight top caps lined up, short and long, and didn't see a difference, but it might be my lighting and the dogies ate my super duper $800 glasses so using OTC readers.

I'm preferring the ~3 ohm, long and short, for today's juices that are lighter FSUSA Hopscotch, TV Waffles w vanilla custard both a 3.7v. For sure the 3 ohm on the 5v with LiquidXpress Artisan, pg. I would like a little higher resistance (ohms) at 5v though.

I think I'm going to use the shorties for higher vg % and the XL for higher pg %. Wicking is better pg in the XL.

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I've had very good luck with capping the ceramic cup with the white mouthpiece of a shorty e2. The grooves are deeper than the XL. It can easily be moved up or down if it's mounted inside the mouthpiece so you could leave it uncapped to vape and slide it down to prevent leaks when you're not. I understand you're not looking to cap the cup, but in my experience I haven't noticed a gr'eat difference in vapor between a capped cup and an open reservoir. I don't get condensation if the mouthpiece is 1/8" above the cup. Even if your experience with the open reservoir is superior to a capped cup, the convenience of being able to leak proof might be handy. Theoretically, it shouldn't make a difference of the cap is 1/8" or 1/2" above the cup in the open reservoir concept.
 

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Are you trimming the little lip off of the top cap?

No, I'm not. It keeps it lodged inside the cut-off metal tube I use as a mouthpiece and helps prevent it from slipping up into the tube when pressure is applied against the ceramic cup.

Another trick is to sacrifice an e2, yank out the wick and lay it over the coil and down into the reservoir. It fills the slits and allows me to slightly cap the cup without sacrificing vapor or leakage. I use vg. I've found the extra wick also helps prevent the need to "roll" the carto to get liquid to the coil.
 

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Its 1ml but I usually don't fill it over .8-.9....yes I have and many here have found the vaping experience much better on these than an atty...

So I just started vaping off of my new 510 CE2 R4 and I am blown away and a bit overwhelmed. I'm using my standard TV waffles, 24mg, 35VG on my 3.7 device and it is like I'm tasting it for the first time. It is comparable to vaping on a fresh atty but better.

Anyway, I do have one question. What is the capacity of the standard 510? I know the XL's are around 1.8ml but I couldn't find numbers (yeah, I'm a dope) for the standards. I filled the syringe with 1ml and it started coming back out at around .8ml. Is that it?
 

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isnt that condenstaion that drips back tot he juice diluting the juice and therefore slowly diminishing the taste


In an R4 shorty, using an inverted filler-ring tight to the cup for sealing, and a mouthpiece extension, I get a boatload of condensate collecting in the “bowl” of the upside-down filler ring & its recess… I just let it collect there until refill time.

When I refill, I carefully remove the ring and pop it in my mouth… with my juices, the flavor is still there in the condensate – in spades – along with the original color. I’m pretty certain that there is no nicotine at all though.
 

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Just thought I'd let everybody know that vapor-ize.com has 510 XL E2 R4's on sale for 20% off and free shipping no min order. He actually sells his XL's for 9.99, not the 12.96 you see some other places so the sale price takes it down to 7.96 with a free ship for 5...but they are 2.5 ohm...I ordered just a single pack...
 

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isnt that condenstaion that drips back tot he juice diluting the juice and therefore slowly diminishing the taste

I don't know how much of the total recipe condenses. It is oily and sweet, so I'd say that at least part of it is VG. I have not noticed a diminished taste, but it stands to reason that it is diluted somewhat. I'd much rather it be there than where it has been going in the past.
 

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so lesse...with br mod you vape with a big grin on your face, then you take a gulp of a frothy beer, you then smile with a big thumbs up saying 'life is good!', then you get all excited anticipatign your next go round...

This thing is amazing. Ugly as hell but amazing. Simple thing - stuffing a naked carto into a juice bottle, but the taste and vapor is as good as it gets.

I might have to start carrying mine in the truck. I hate leaving it at home.

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I'm using the one on the right now (XL). I've fitted it with a drip tip since this picture was taken.
 
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br5495

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I've had very good luck with capping the ceramic cup with the white mouthpiece of a shorty e2. The grooves are deeper than the XL. It can easily be moved up or down if it's mounted inside the mouthpiece so you could leave it uncapped to vape and slide it down to prevent leaks when you're not. I understand you're not looking to cap the cup, but in my experience I haven't noticed a great difference in vapor between a capped cup and an open reservoir. I don't get condensation if the mouthpiece is 1/8" above the cup. Even if your experience with the open reservoir is superior to a capped cup, the convenience of being able to leak proof might be handy. Theoretically, it shouldn't make a difference of the cap is 1/8" or 1/2" above the cup in the open reservoir concept.

Maybe when you raise the cap up, there is not be enough space above it to condense?

If an E2 with no mods works like it ought to, I don't mind at all using it with the filler ring or the cap installed. Therefore, it's about the same vape as an open reservoir. With one such as this, I usually use my filler tip, which seals the cup and makes it a lot easier to fill.

All this changes with the non-spill mod. The inner tube around the cup is larger, so a cap on the cup will just make a smaller hole over the coil.
 

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Maybe when you raise the cap up, there is not be enough space above it to condense?

All this changes with the non-spill mod. The inner tube around the cup is larger, so a cap on the cup will just make a smaller hole over the coil.

I don't know about the space and condensation. I usually release the button while I'm still dragging on the tip. I think that pulls out most of what's been vaporized in the tube. In a bottle, the vapor has more area to spread into and you'd have to try really hard to suck all that out in one go.

I'm not sure if you're against a smaller hole over the cup (defeating the purpose of the open reservoir), or if you're saying that it will just make a smaller hole for liquid to drip into. If you placed the white mouthpiece INSIDE the cut off metal tube and pressed that against the cup, then you can hold your mod upside down (if the grommet on the top of your mod is watertight) or any which way and it won't leak. The diameter of the tube doesn't matter- the airway from the threads continues up through the mouthpiece (except for the slits, if uncovered). You can easily adjust how deeply the mouthpiece is pressed onto the cup to find the sweet spot between vapor and leakage when on its side for extended periods.
 

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This thing is amazing. Ugly as hell but amazing. Simple thing - stuffing a naked carto into a juice bottle, but the taste and vapor is as good as it gets.

I might have to start carrying mine in the truck. I hate leaving it at home.

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I'm using the one on the right now (XL). I've fitted it with a drip tip since this picture was taken.

Notcigs is working on something along these lines, albeit a lot more refined. I love the mod!
 

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I'm not sure if you're against a smaller hole over the cup (defeating the purpose of the open reservoir), or if you're saying that it will just make a smaller hole for liquid to drip into. If you placed the white mouthpiece INSIDE the cut off metal tube and pressed that against the cup, then you can hold your mod upside down (if the grommet on the top of your mod is watertight) or any which way and it won't leak. The diameter of the tube doesn't matter- the airway from the threads continues up through the mouthpiece (except for the slits, if uncovered). You can easily adjust how deeply the mouthpiece is pressed onto the cup to find the sweet spot between vapor and leakage when on its side for extended periods.
In this particular case, I am not for or against anything Stephen. The spill proof mod does not have a cut off metal tube or anything else inside the white plastic inner tube. If it did have what you are talking about, then a spill proof mod would not be necessary. As it is, the spill proof mod has a cooler vape, which I was shooting for.
 

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As it is, the spill proof mod has a cooler vape, which I was shooting for.

ok, I get it now... btw- what are those grommets you're using on your bottle mod? The neoprene grommets from Home Depot started to disintegrate and the SBR grommets I got today smell like burnt rubber and taste foul. I'm having a hard time finding food safe grommets with an ID to match the carto.
 

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ok, I get it now... btw- what are those grommets you're using on your bottle mod? The neoprene grommets from Home Depot started to disintegrate and the SBR grommets I got today smell like burnt rubber and taste foul. I'm having a hard time finding food safe grommets with an ID to match the carto.

Sorry I can't help you there. The one in my last bottle is a snap-in plastic type. I don't know where it came from. It's been in a one of my parts bins for a number of years. I had to work the I.D. down a wee bit for a tight fit.

Don't know where the rubber grommets came from either. The one I use is holding up well.
 
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