New studies find carcinogens in vg and pg at high temps, even in tootle puffers

[mikepetro]

(for Mike- Boiler Tech, 3rd Class, USS Suribachi AE-21, 1979- 1983. If you were ever active in the Mediterranean or North Seas, we were probably unrep neighbors.)

Mmmmm Bilge wine....

 

[PapawBrett]

Mmmmm Bilge wine....

Actually, we kept our still in the Oil and Water Lab.

 

[classwife]

If you guys would pay attention to what you are typing...sheesh !


Kidding !
Someone broke the Word Links...it's been reported.

 

[Katdarling]

THANK YOU, classy!!!!!!

 

[mikepetro]

regarding your talk about the dna 75,
whats the big difference compared to e.g. the pico or predator mod with artic fox?
Just accuracy on set temp= actual temp?

Yep, you pretty much got it, assuming you loaded Artic Fox.
Some argue that one brand is better than another, but really it is all about what works for YOU.

I am partial to DNAs myself, in large part due to their customer service. They honor warranties better than anybody, and take care of their customers. That support has earned my loyalty.

But they are not the only TC game in town, and some others, notably Yihi, also do a pretty good job at it.

 

[Katya]

But they are not the only TC game in town, and some others, notably Yihi, also do a pretty good job at it.

DNA vs. Yihi?

Sorry, I just can't stop. I blame DPLongo. He started that.

 

[Katya]

Someone broke the Word Links...it's been reported.

Classy, does it mean that we're going back to all those "hot links" again? Please say it ain't so... Those things were so annoying.

 

[classwife]

Classy, does it mean that we're going back to all those "hot links" again? Please say it ain't so... Those things were so annoying.

...they have never been gone, and have been there for several years.

 

[Katya]

...they have never been gone

Those big red links to definitions and such? I haven't seen them in ages...

 

[classwife]

Those big red links to definitions and such? I haven't seen them in ages...

They made them not red - but they have always been there

 

[Katya]

They made them not red - but they have always been there

Oh, right! Right! I forgot. Good--as long as they are not red and fat.

Because I'm seeing red now, hence my question.

 

[mikepetro]

Just reading several of Mike's blogs, very informative....
If I am looking at this right (maybe, maybe not) there is always a trace element of some of these substances, even at lower temperatures. Increasing temperature radically increases the release of the gases (which are present anyways, but can be limited at lower temps).
Personal vaping styles- MTL, DLH, and the amounts of vapor you are intaking also affect the amount of these gases. Longer DTL hits will still intake a certain amount of these substances, even at lower temperatures.
Fuel (wick saturation) and air flow I can understand.
Good work, Mike. I think the Title and OP might be a little misleading to the excellent information you have provided the vaping community.



(for Mike- Boiler Tech, 3rd Class, USS Suribachi AE-21, 1979- 1983. If you were ever active in the Mediterranean or North Seas, we were probably unrep neighbors.)

DNA vs. Yihi?

Sorry, I just can't stop. I blame DPLongo. He started that.

DNA IMHO, boards are similar quality but service and support from Evolv beats Yihi, no contest.

 

[DPLongo22]

DNA vs. Yihi?

Sorry, I just can't stop. I blame DPLongo. He started that.

I've got to have SOME fun while I'm busy not hitting off any one device twice in a row.

VERTDEFERK?????????????????

HA! I won (Kitty done taught me well).

 

[Semiretired]

Well Mike, gotta say Thank You for your effort. While I am not a TC user and probably will not change anytime soon. I did learn my style should be well within conservative standards - especially with the other precautions I already take. I do wish you had done a little more with heavy PG mixes, but extrapolating from your work and the blogs you provided have given me enough reading material... Again Thanks...

 

[Semiretired]

Ha Ha - just saw the greek lettering in my post - took out a couple of words and it fixed itself...

 

[Semiretired]

Now, if they will just fix the back button...

 

[Katya]

DNA IMHO, boards are similar quality but service and support from Evolv beats Yihi, no contest.

Who cares?

Go Dodgers!

 

[Mowgli]

e c f is spamming v a p i n g dot com again

 

[jdy]

The best way I heard it put was like this:

HI Mike and ECF everyone, Thank you very much for putting all of this together Mike. I've been trying to wrap my head around this, reading and rereading the data and the posts then the temperatures and watching controls on my mod - both have me confused!! Of course I'm wanting to be as safe as possible if I can control the issue in any way.

I'm using a Smoant Battlestar it has TC, but when I use the TC it seems to burn hotter, I can taste it. Even on the lowest setting for the TC will kick on at 100C or 200F and says it's burning at 75W which is way hotter than I usually use. But if I use the Watts where I normally have it that's at 35W and it's a much smoother throat hit rather mild. Then when it's on the W setting I can't tell what the actual temp is burning at.
So is it better to use it at the 35W or the TC when it tastes hotter?
Which is producing the lower chemical output
Thanks Again
Jody

 

[Katdarling]

Good--as long as they are not red and fat.

I can NOT believe you're against Santa Klaus.

(damm Kali girls. what are we gonna do with them us.)