New studies find carcinogens in vg and pg at high temps, even in tootle puffers
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In what way...
Some people have trouble building, while they might have been doing it for a long time, their builds aren't all that great but still works enough that they believe that it's all good and "lock" themselves into "my builds are fine" mentality.
For build-up, if your coil has crap on it, you need more power to get the liquid to vaporize, so you end up increasing the temp if you're in TC mode.
Hotspots is pretty self explanatory... if your coil doesn't heat evenly across, you can end up overcompensating to get any vapor coming out, so you're overheating that hotspot as the coil isn't heating up in a balance way all across the wraps.
Chocking the coil with cotton, too much cotton, the heat transfers to the cotton instead of pulling the liquid through... so instead of the liquid vaporizing outside the coil's surface out of the wick, it's going towards the inside of the wick. So vapor is "locked" within the wick, you need to suck harder to force the vapor out, and so, you increase the temp instead without realizing that you're adding to the problem you're actually having.
The Pico is just fine... my daughter has had one for a good year now, used it exclusively in TC mode, never had any issues.
Most that whine about it are simply not doing it right.
While I didn't whine, and instead tried to figure it out, when I started with SS, I had serious troubles getting it to work in TC correctly with single coils.
When I did a dual built in SS for the first time, found that it worked fine.
Learned that it was a question that I wasn't using enough wire in single coils for it to register correctly. I've now been building my singles with as much wire as I can fit in there and it's working just fine now.
Sadly, had to argue the point that single coils weren't working for me in a thread and instead of assistance, all I got was a lot of arrogant jerks. Didn't matter that a lot of other people were having the same issue, but no one ever posted a "solution".
So now I share what I learned.
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I vape at 10W to 12W and can't really deal with an overly warm vape. It's all about wicking if you want to keep the vape cool at 10W and the vapor nice and thick.
If I get more than a hint of warmth at 10W it's usually because my wick has collapsed and some coils aren't touching the juice. That, or a hot coil leg or a short wick tail that isn't sucking up juice.
If it's warming up I tear it down, dry burn, and rewick. After that, it's cool and vaping fine again with a nice cool plume of vapor.
If I get more than a hint of warmth at 10W it's usually because my wick has collapsed and some coils aren't touching the juice. That, or a hot coil leg or a short wick tail that isn't sucking up juice.
If it's warming up I tear it down, dry burn, and rewick. After that, it's cool and vaping fine again with a nice cool plume of vapor.
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Eh. I smoked cigarettes for a long time care free. I think I am going to keep getting my delicious hot vape with carcinogens for a long time as well.
That's the spirit...
I think most of us feel the same way, however if there is a way to make vaping even safer than smoking, why not.That's the spirit...
People will do what they want, I will vape at 110 watts with my delicious apple pie, and the next guy will maximize safety. I don't see anything wrong with either and I think grown adults will be able to come to their own conclusions with the data provided.
My opinions are just that, my opinions.
My posts are indeed in good faith, and in no way a "shill" for anyone.
I believe in TC, and yes I own a bunch of Evolv stuff, but I also have owned Yihi and Dicodes boards, just happen to like Evolv's the best.
I am a modder and a vape geek:
Look through my blog
Look through my posts.
I am also the 5th on the Top Traders list for this whole site for Co-ops I ran for everything from Silica Wick, to Vamos, to DNA boards.
So if you question my "good faith" please look through my history here first.
Hey, what do you know, three more things "not to do" to add to the TC for Dummies thread. So much for your 4 easy steps
(disclaimer - long time mostly exclusive TC user)
- I made the 'mistake' of following one of the early links to some text and charts which seemed to indicate 1 cig equated to 50mg of formaldihyde and at ~215C VG started to emit more than trace amounts of it. Thus making 8-12 "puffs" on a ecig at 215C likely as bad as the same number of puffs on a cig.
- Anyone who has paid attention while dry burning a coil could see that coils heat up from the center outward. While adding wick and juice (heat sink) may spread out and reduce the temperature differences between the center of the coil and the ends, "TC" guesstimate of coil temperature has always been an over all average and the center of the coil could always be hotter than the rest of the coil.
- Information presented early in the thread seem to indicate that "subtank" and "Nautilus" tanks were safe however were lacking in detail as to how the tanks were used. (or how they might of been used safely)
Just to be clear, your correct, I don't like it. I wanted to test SS on my TC mod to check and see if what I'm vaping at with my kanthal coils on my regulated mod is within the "safe zone" with the information that has been provided by the OP in the start of this thread.
That's not to say I won't like it in the future, I'm just happy where I'm at right now without it.
I dunno, I use SS316L in a single coil Bachelor with no problems at all. Granted it's a 3mm, 7 wrap, 26 gauge, coil but it is still a single coil device. Vaping it right now on a DNA75.
Ah.. but these are not just TC.. these are for ANY builds.. if someone doesn't know these three things, time to learn them or go to pre-built cartridges...Hey, what do you know, three more things "not to do" to add to the TC for Dummies thread. So much for your 4 easy steps
I wonder if there is anyway of using a mass spectometer or similiar inline with drip tip and then proceeding to vape normally at different temps and see what is there?
No no no.. not snippy.. just teasing a bit...
Well, if you didn't get it right, you're experience was less than it should be... lots of people are hard set about their ways, but many end up giving it a solid try and it hits them.. and they switch.
Part of why I said "sad" was that you didn't try it as it's intended to work and gave up on it.
That's like saying that you hate pancakes because the first one you ever had was badly done due to the stove and pan not reaching to right temperature burning one side and not flipping it.
Not sure of the exact method employed, but Kistler was able something like that as the Subtank "3rd gen" tests showed with very low release up to 25W in power/wattage mode.
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