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Name a few that are not cheap imported devices, or elitist boutique mods, please.
Wouldn't the provari fall into elitist category? Cut out that and imported mods, what do you have left? [emoji15]

The reliant bucks to 5 watts
The Asolo also bucks to 5 watts
Evic vt 1 watt
Variant 5 watts

Those are what are close to hand atm.

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Skewed logic. Just as you say those who like th lower power settings would "resent paying for something they won't use", I find that odd in this context. I've never heard a person say "I really like this 100w mod, and would gladly pay them what they are asking for it, but only if it vapes between 30-45W...it kills me to pay that price though since I'll never Vape it at 100w, and definitely won't Vape it at 2w!"

You are comparing to cars? How about something a bit more mundane and generic, like a Honda Civic. I know people that own them, and only drive around town, never going above 35mph. I know others who use them for some longer highway commutes that drive them at 65 mph all day..and I know others who love to push them and take them well over 100 for fun frequently. Is it as fast as a vette? Nope. Not meant to be, but it can hold its own when the speed is needed. Is it as efficient as a smart car around town? Nope, but it can do pretty good around town. All in all, it's a generic car, that will work reliably, every time, and do it safely, for all but the most extreme cases. Does. Good job to fit as many people's style as it can. Yet, I've never heard anyone complain that they hated to pay for a car that can go,that fast when all they do is drive around town.

Maybe I see things differently, but trying to alienate everybody whose vaping style doesn't fit within a very specific, narrow range of needs is kind of snobby and elitist. I still see nothing wrong with expanding the range a bit to include more people into those who fit the products. If they are so concerned with vapers safety, wouldn't they want to capture those who are vaping a bit above what the current offerings give? Or would they rather see us have to resort to products of unknown origin and quality?

There are plenty of inexpensive, high powered box mods. Why not just be happy with those, rather than constantly complain ProVape doesn't make a mod for cloud chasers?
 

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You are always saying ProVari are overpriced and underpowered. You would buy a 35 watt Radius for $280??
You have always attributed that argument to me, falsely, when in fact I've always said that if they release a mod more suitable to my vape style, I'd find a way to afford one. Your usual reply? Some form of how provape never will.

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One cannot reclaim something they never lost. Simply because they no longer meet your needs, doesn't mean they do not meet the needs of countless others.

ProVape will never meet the 'needs' of the naysayers. Radius could be 500 watts and $100, and they would still complain it is overpriced and elitist...
 
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ProVape will never meet the 'needs' of the naysayers. Radiant could be 500 watts and $100, and they would still complain it is overpriced and elitist...
Speaking of which, where has Lemwise been all this time? He get banned or something?
 

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Wouldn't the provari fall into elitist category? Cut out that and imported mods, what do you have left? [emoji15]

The reliant bucks to 5 watts
The Asolo also bucks to 5 watts
Evic vt 1 watt
Variant 5 watts

Those are what are close to hand atm.

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If ANYONE buys a vaping device and feels it makes them elite, well, they've got issues.

They're vaporizers. That's it.

Vaporizers.

So, "No".
 

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You have always attributed that argument to me, falsely, when in fact I've always said that if they release a mod more suitable to my vape style, I'd find a way to afford one. Your usual reply? Some form of how provape never will.

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They already do (your Variant is set at 20 watts...).

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They already do (your Variant is set at 20 watts...).

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You are stepping into something that has been going on for a while with Stevegmu, so you are missing much of the back story. Like, would I feel comfortable bringing my variant out to the horse barn? Yeah, not happening. I've often wished for a mod that fits my vape style, with provaris track record of durability, which he always twists to mean I think provari is over priced and under powered and I'll only buy cheap Chinese mods..........

As to the elitist category, I used the term as quoted by Zen in regards to mods that will down regulate.

It's fun to miss characterize people though isn't it? ;)

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You are stepping into something that has been going on for a while with Stevegmu, so you are missing much of the back story. Like, would I feel comfortable bringing my variant out to the horse barn? Yeah, not happening. I've often wished for a mod that fits my vape style, with provaris track record of durability, which he always twists to mean I think provari is over priced and under powered and I'll only buy cheap Chinese mods..........

As to the elitist category, I used the term as quoted by Zen in regards to mods that will down regulate.

It's fun to miss characterize people though isn't it? ;)

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Oh, and 20 watts is not common for me, I'm usually closer to 35 on most of my tanks (and on the variant 20 really is closer to 35)

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I've actually been observing your feud for quite some time.

You know as well as I do that they're going to to what they want. When Zen said he wasn't going to make anymore 510 threaded black/stealth Kabukis, I stopped asking for it. I'm not going to argue with him, nor lobby to have my way. I respect his ability to make his own decisions. Nor did he lobby to me to buy his preferred P3 threaded version. That's just they way things work, and it's exactly as it should be.

Watch the thread, see what the Radius is, then decide whether or not to buy it. That's exactly what I'm doing. If it's not to my liking, I won't buy it (as was the case with the P3).

Take some comfort in the fact that you no longer NEED to buy from ProVape to get a good & dependable device. The free market has brought us much (as they always do).

So have a little fun, and save your lobbying for your representatives. In fact, PLEASE lobby your representatives. Tenuous, us. :confused:

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My tenacity has been no more prevalent then that of the other side of the coin ;)

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I think there is a certain amount of frustration from both camps.

On the high end you have frustration with ProVape for their failure thus far to make a device that will fullfill that desire for more power specifically from a ProVari.

On the low end you get ProVari fans, some would say the ProVarinati but this is not always the case, just as it is not always the ProVarinati haters or cloud chasers on the other side, expressing a certain frustration with the need to diss ProVape for not "getting with the program" as was written earlier in this thread, as if ProVape didn't have their very own program.

This leads to alot of those flame threads when ProVari fans come out to defend the marque, or the occasional follow up diss thread from the ProVi's in response.

That happens in alot of fields where people feel their affiliations are under attack.

Unfortunately, there is alot of swagger on both sides which can lead to resentment and .... hurt all around.

Disrespect leads to animosity.

It's good to remember, when this happens, that we are all in this together, and maybe try to cut the the other meat puppets a little slack.

So now we have a higher power mod coming from ProVape.

It's going to be too little for some, and too much for others.

One thing I do know is that ProVape will make it to be as safe as they possibly can.

I personally think ProVape hasn't shied away from doing higher power, at least to a certain extent, because of the technical difficulties of making it safe, but rather because of the uncertainty surrounding the safety of vaping ejuice at high power. There is still alot to learn and make certain of specifically in that area.

Don't forget that ProVape is also a juice company.

I need a vape. Where's my ProVi?
 
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I've actually been observing your feud for quite some time.

You know as well as I do that they're going to to what they want. When Zen said he wasn't going to make anymore 510 threaded black/stealth Kabukis, I stopped asking for it. I'm not going to argue with him, nor lobby to have my way. I respect his ability to make his own decisions. Nor did he lobby to me to buy his preferred P3 threaded version. That's just they way things work, and it's exactly as it should be.

Watch the thread, see what the Radius is, then decide whether or not to buy it. That's exactly what I'm doing. If it's not to my liking, I won't buy it (as was the case with the P3).

Take some comfort in the fact that you no longer NEED to buy from ProVape to get a good & dependable device. The free market has brought us much (as they always do).

So have a little fun, and save your lobbying for your representatives. In fact, PLEASE lobby your representatives. Tenuous, us. :confused:

Thumbs UP, Marine! ;):thumbs:
Oh, I do my part lobbying, believe that!

The deference here is where Zen said X item won't be made any more, provape hasn't said they will never make a mod like what I and others hope for (though plenty of others feel the need to make that claim for them), so I see absolutely nothing wrong with stating what I hope to see. Why some feel the need to jump all over that I'll never understand. You haven't heard me once state anything against how current provari users vape style is stupid, etc etc......can the same be said in transverse in this thread?

Should this device not meet my needs, I won't get one, that part is simple. But I will NOT stop stating what I would like to see, simply because it bothers some small minded people who can't see beyond their own preference.

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Don't forget that ProVape is also a juice company.

I need a vape. Where's my ProVi?

Does anyone buy their juice or accessories?

Ive been a Provari fan for a long, long time but lets be honest here their juice and accessories are way overpriced.

They probably do get some sales from people who prefer one stop shopping but Ive never heard anyone rave about their juices......or their prices on accessories either for that matter.

When I bought my first Provari, someone recommended that I get my batteries and charger from RTD vapor and my juice from anywhere else.
 
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Oh, I do my part lobbying, believe that!

The deference here is where Zen said X item won't be made any more, provape hasn't said they will never make a mod like what I and others hope for (though plenty of others feel the need to make that claim for them), so I see absolutely nothing wrong with stating what I hope to see. Why some feel the need to jump all over that I'll never understand. You haven't heard me once state anything against how current provari users vape style is stupid, etc etc......can the same be said in transverse in this thread?

Should this device not meet my needs, I won't get one, that part is simple. But I will NOT stop stating what I would like to see, simply because it bothers some small minded people who can't see beyond their own preference.

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It would be kind of hard to call our current vape style stupid when we go through far less juice and are much easier on our batteries and equipment than high wattage vapers.

A tool is only as good as the person using it. This goes for everything from cars to guns to mods and everything in between. If youre constantly pushing something at or beyond its limits its going to fail.....usually sooner rather than later too.
 
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Does anyone buy their juice or accessories?

Ive been a Provari fan for a long, long time but lets be honest here their juice and accessories are way overpriced.

They probably do get some sales from people who prefer one stop shopping but Ive never heard anyone rave about their juices......or their prices for that matter.

Yes.

And to add, whether or not people buy their juice is immaterial as to how Provape feels about juice and vaping safety. I suspect they are just as conservative, and safety conscious, there as elsewhere.
 
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It would be kind of hard to call our current vape style stupid when we go through far less juice and are much easier on our batteries and equipment than high wattage vapers.

A tool is only as good as the person using it. This goes for everything from cars to guns to mods and everything in between. If youre constantly pushing something at or beyond its limits its going to fail.....usually sooner rather than later too.
Well, I make my own juice....and my style of vaping puts about as much stress on my batteries and equipment as 15 watts would in a mini at 15 watts, so......;)

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The mod in hand right now.....it's pulling 7.3 amps for 35 watts....not a whole lot of stress there

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Agree but its still more than the 8-10 watts a lot of us are using.

And as far as batteries go. I bet youre buying and replacing batteries a lot more frequently than I am.

They only have a finite number of charge cycles after all, and if a battery lasts me 8 hours while it last you 4 hours then you have double the cost in the long term.

Not saying that Im right and youre wrong or vice versa. Just saying we obviously have different priorities in terms of vaping.
 
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