OK, why all the ProVari hate?

[denali_41]

Kiwivap, I like them both

i am sorry ........

 

[Baditude]

Kiwivap and Badditude both treat me nice and I like them both

My above post was not made to be mean or malicious to Kiwivap. I sometimes enjoy reading her comments, although her opinions often clash with mine. But myself and at least a couple other posters here can rarely post our opinions without her countering with her own. We all are rather opinionated, that's all. That's why I said after posting the original comment that I knew she would be one of the first to counter it.

And concerning the "likes" total between the two posts we made, you can interpret the results as you wish.

 

[sawlight]

An interesting read that seems to apply here, http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/provari/381232-provari-oscope-vs-vamo.html

 

[mmudder]

My Provari will be moonlighting as both a devistatingly handsome vaping device and a personal beat-down weapon. I work third shift while in school and get a lot of drunks from the after club crowd, not to mention a few drug heads. I plan to wield my Provari as if it were a dueling sword if one of them steps out of line without a gun. Since adding a stainless steel drip tip, this thing's heavy enough to literally bring blood...

 

[alexvander123]

Tried a provari at my local shop. It wouldn't fire my .80 ohm coil so I gave it back and told them it was stupid. They laughed and I went back to vaping my mech.

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[tnt56]

I own a Provari. I love my Provari. But even I get sick of the members who offer the Provari as the be-all end-all solution to every problem/situation. Provari's are great, but they aren't for everyone and even though I own one, I also use my twists, my reos, and my eRolls. If there is Provari hate and I don't think there is hate for the PV just the attitude of some of the Provari owners, it's because instead of being held up as a great PV that works well for some members, it's sometimes held up as "the only PV worth having" by some members. And there is no perfect PV for everyone. For some people, a disposable fits their lifestyle better than a Provari. For others, they are happier with their twists than they would be with a Provari. If it does what you want it to do and keeps you from smoking, that's all that matters. If you love your Provari, who cares what anyone else thinks? I'm glad it works for you.

Very well written and very well spoken. I've got two Provari's and a third on the way. Yea I like em that much. But their are a lot of mods that can keep people from smoking. I also get tired of the raves and wish people could put their personal feeling aside when trying to help someone new.

 

[b0redagain]

Tried a provari at my local shop. It wouldn't fire my .80 ohm coil so I gave it back and told them it was stupid. They laughed and I went back to vaping my mech.

Lots of useful information in this post, folks.

 

[Baditude]

Tried a provari at my local shop. It wouldn't fire my .80 ohm coil so I gave it back and told them it was stupid. They laughed and I went back to vaping my mech.

Lots of useful information in this post, folks.

I would have laughed too.

 

[alexvander123]

Just a nice short and to the point story of my run in with the provari.

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[xanderxman]

A sub-ohm coil wouldn't fire on a ProVari? And you were surprised? Ever heard of amp limit? I would assume that since you own a mech mod and apparently prefer to wrap sub-ohm coils you would be aware that a mech mod was pretty much the only thing that would fire your RBA.

 

[Baditude]

Just a nice short and to the point story of my run in with the provari.

If you made a coil that was just 0.4 ohm or more, the Provari would have fired it just fine, by the way.

 

[alexvander123]

Wow sorry guys I didn't mean to hurt feelings by insulting your favorite mod! And yes I had heard that the provari would not fire a low ohm coil. Before I tried I didn't even know the ohms.

Since I can consistently wrap a low ohm coil I quit checking. I just figured hey I'll play with the provari for a bit to burn some time and boom it wouldn't even fire. They main reason I hate electronics in my mods. If I wanna vape at 18 watts I'm gonna vape at 18 watts damnit.

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[kiwivap]

YUP ! so true ,,just put provari anywhere in the post and kiwi is all over the thread ,,and has more posts saying how VW is better

I haven't said anything about provaris in this thread. You need to go back and read it.

 

[kiwivap]

I just find it all to be about as fascinating as a pissing contest. In other words, not at all interesting.

Is a Porsche the best car? Not if you need to pull a boat trailer or a camper or if you have three kids in carseats. It's about what you need and what works for you and your vaping style. There is no one right choice of anything that works for everybody. Get over yourself if you think what you own is the be-all end-all PV. It isn't. I use Stardusts all the time. I love them. There are plenty of members who love to hate Stardusts. Doesn't make me cry. Stardusts work for me. What do I care if someone else hates using them and thinks the devil made them in his fiery factory down south. I tried Kangers. Hated them. So what? I don't go into every Kanger thread and complain about how bad they suck just because I don't like them. I'm glad we have lots of options so that every vaper can find what works for him/her. I'm also glad we have lots of ice cream flavors available so I don't have to have a double dip of teaberry (yuck). And I'm glad we all don't have to wear the same exact style of underwear or shoes or use exactly the same laptop or . . . wait, what were we talking about again? Oh, yeah, use whatever PV works for you and stop comparing how far you can pee. Just be glad that you can.

^^^^THIS^^^^ 100% agree. Its great that we have so many options to suit so many different people.

 

[dgm76513]

It's like the pro-guns slogan "Guns don't kill people, people kill people."

Provaris don't irritate people, Provari owners irritate people.

People don't toast toast, toast toasts toast.

 

[kiwivap]

My above post was not made to be mean or malicious to Kiwivap. I sometimes enjoy reading her comments, although her opinions often clash with mine. But myself and at least a couple other posters here can rarely post our opinions without her countering with her own. We all are rather opinionated, that's all. That's why I said after posting the original comment that I knew she would be one of the first to counter it.

And concerning the "likes" total between the two posts we made, you can interpret the results as you wish.

Yourself and a couple of posters here continually try to put down variable wattage. You raised it in this thread, although it has nothing to do with what the OP posted. Your comment didn't reflect the many posts on the forum that disagree with your statement. And you certainly have tried to get at me personally rather admit the inaccuracy. But that's par for the course. Denali makes a point of trying to attack me personally at any opportunity. I'm used to his stalking of my posts now.

 

[Unforeseen]

This has gone on far enough. If I see another post with one person personally addressing another in a way that does not add anything to the discussion. I will be taking action.

 

[kiwivap]

There are plenty of other mods out there that cost more than a ProVari and that you have to get on a list to even hope to get one. I can readily buy a ProVari with batteries, charger and extension cap for less than some of the hybrid or box mods on the market.

At this point a ProVari is not even a status symbol. How many people own a Darwin or Caravela? And don't get me started on the high end RBAs out there.

When did owning a ProVari become so bad and become equated with drinking the Kool-Aid? What about all the iHy, Zen, Caravela, etc. owners? They seem to get rave reviews of their mods.

Since I'm in the thread - I don't think I've seen a post where some-one hates the device. I've seen some posts where owners were frustrated, and others where they really like it. I've seen some posts where people have said it has what they wanted, and other have said they want features it doesn't have.
I agree very much with those who have said they get tired of of some owners behaviour. I think quite a few people on this thread have expressed that. That doesn't lump you into that. I also think the labels "fanboy" and "hater" get thrown around a lot both ways and are very reductionist. They don't really allow for what is in fact being expressed a lot of the time.

I remember a long thread here months back that started off asking why we can't all get along - and a big response to it from people who mostly agreed with that sentiment. There are bigger issues facing vapers. It won't matter what pv we have if we cannot put some nic juice on top of it and vape it. That's one of the reasons I think we need to embrace the variety. The variety isn't going away, but the ease with which we all enjoy vaping is under threat.

I partially agree with you that the Provari isn't a status symbol. In the same way that I'd say a Zmax isn't either, for example. And I partially disagree because any pv that a person feels good about may be a status symbol to them. It can be a reminder to them of money spent and cigarettes avoided. If the Provari does that for some-one then that's great. If its a Zmax that a person looks at and thinks of as an investment that's paid off that's great too. The real status is the not smoking improvement.

We get into technical stuff here and so on, but really its about the thing that you and I use that works for us, that we enjoy, and that in many instances enabled us to do what we thought was impossible. That's the real issue, and always will be. It would be silly to hate what some-one else uses if that thing they use has enabled them to stop smoking, improved their health and made them feel better about themselves. I think its about recognising that there are a number of devices that do that for people, and its all good.

 

[Plumes.91]

that was unforeseen (unforeseen's post)

 

[xanderxman]

I agree kiwi. I just got the feeling from a few responses in threads to myself and from what I have read over time on ECF that the ProVari owners seemed to take much more of a beating than owners of other mods. It just doesn't seem to be anywhere near as prevalent with other mods.

I am all for someone quitting cigs and whatever they use is great for them. I just honestly feel like I am awaiting a beating if I even mention that a ProVari might be right for someone. I am not a fanboy and do take into account budget, features desired, etc. of someone asking which e-cig to purchase. I guess I just hate the fact that when ProVari comes up it is sometimes jumped on from both sides.

If I feel like a ProVari is right to recommend to someone then I will do so. If I don't, then I won't. I just do not want to be lumped in with the unthinking people who shout ProVari at every chance.

I was honestly trying to get a feel for peoples' opinions and I have gotten much more than that from this thread. Unfortunately this thread has shown me that when you mention ProVari the wolves on both sides come out and it gets taken to a place never intended.