Older Folks and Vaping Front Porch - Part 2

[AndriaD]

Ok, I went ahead and tasted those other two I've been letting age. The 3rd one, that came most recently, still has that greenish/vegetative/celery taste. But since some of you recommended either lemon juice or cider vinegar to fix the actual flavoring, I'm thinking that might also "cure" that taste in a prepared e-juice? So I gotta get some of that, probably cider vinegar, as that would have a lot of other uses, whereas lemon juice, not so much.

The first one, that had that chemical taste.... STILL has a chemical taste. That one either needs a lot more than a week's aging, or it's just crap. Better let it sit for about a month before I check it again. Urgh that was nasty.

At least I know the Hangsen's can mature into something vapable. I might use it today to stretch and thin the 6mg VG Virginia that's coming, instead of what I have left of the 18mg VG Virginia. That VG, I swear, I go around making noises like my cat with a hairball, and it's probably EXACTLY how my cat FEELS with a hairball. Don't know the exact pg/vg proportion on the hangsen's, but it's quite thin in appearance, so it's gotta be substantially PG.

And as I'm sitting here waiting for the mailtruck, it occurs to me that vaping may save not just smokers, but maybe also the USPS! Email may have replaced cards and letters and even a lot of bills, but it's never going to take the place of PACKAGE DELIVERY!

Come on vapemail!!


Andria

 

[Legolas]

I got into a discussion in another thread with a fella' who said that 3.2Ω cartomizers would be "better" for my cartotanks than 1.8Ω cartomizers because they'd draw less amps from my MVP2.

But I got "lost". I know Ohm's Law (Volts, Ohms and Watts) but don't know where amps come in to the equation???

Using the oh so familiar water pipe example for volts amps and resistance. The voltage is equivalent to the water pressure, the amps are equivalent to the flow rate, and the resistance is like the pipe size.

 

[Legolas]

http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:...bJWl32ujxDOfzu5z8x3lMkRT3KASYc4pf4_xNKMseNrHA

Image is small sorry

http://www.hifisoundconnection.com/Shop/Control/fp/SFV/30046/view_page/Subwoofer_Wiring_Ohms_Law

 

[Raths]

Raths these old farts on the porch are pretty diverse bunch of great people. Sub ohm is a fun trip but it's not a place you want to stay for long. I keep a sub ohm dripper for when I want to be a human fog machine but most of the time I am around 1.3 ohms. To me I prefer a nice mellow vape all day long instead of massive lung hits back to back to back.


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While sub ohm sounds fun and looks cool, don't think that is where I want to live. I like the idea of having someone who can show me the tricks of building coils and such tho. I'm a hands on learner, and the ecf is the best place to research, and now with someone who knows his stuff I may have hit the jackpot!

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[1wildman]

A handy calculator and battery info will help you figure out the relationship between ohms and amps.

Battery mAh & C Rating = amp Calculator

4.2 volts @ 1.8ohms = 2.33A and 9.3W
4.2 volts @ 3.0ohms = 1.4A and 5.9 W

basically you will get more "work" (watts) out of the same amount of current with lower ohms. That is what drives the sub ohm cloud chasing craze.

4.2 volts @ 0.3ohms = 14A and 58.8W

You really need to know the limits of the battery and how many amps its is rated for (continous drain not pulse rating). I would also check multiple charts as even the link i posted may have some inaccurate information. There are 20A,30A, and 35A rated batteries for 18650 size. Real important to use an Ohm meter and know your batteries if you are going to push the limits.

if you build in the 1.3+ range you wont have any problems. Just remember if you do dual coil setups you are going to be at 1/2 the ohms for each coil. So my normal RDA for every day use is two 2ohm coils for a final build of 1ohm. On my mech with a fresh battery that is giving me 17W and pulling 4A which is fine even for the smaller batteries.

 

[1wildman]

While sub ohm sounds fun and looks cool, don't think that is where I want to live. I like the idea of having someone who can show me the tricks of building coils and such tho. I'm a hands on learner, and the ecf is the best place to research, and now with someone who knows his stuff I may have hit the jackpot!

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We all start somewhere. Once you get the basics check out Rip Trippers on you tube. The guys is a riot and builds some great stuff. Dont hesitate to ask any questions. The best part is you get better quality vape and its cheaper than buying new clearos or heads all the time.

 

[Legolas]

A handy calculator and battery info will help you figure out the relationship between ohms and amps.

Battery mAh & C Rating = amp Calculator

Nice calculator thx

 

[Janet H]

Legolas, love the graphic!

I just stick my topper on whatever device I'm using and adjust the volts to where it tastes good... Of course that may have to change when my mechanical gets here.

Whenever I put a new battery in my vv devices I've developed the habit of checking the charge. I mistakenly stuck a "new" battery in before flying out the door once only to find that it must have been one of the ones waiting to be put in the charger!

 

[Legolas]

Legolas, love the graphic!

I just stick my topper on whatever device I'm using and adjust the volts to where it tastes good... Of course that may have to change when my mechanical gets here.

Whenever I put a new battery in my vv devices I've developed the habit of checking the charge. I mistakenly stuck a "new" battery in before flying out the door once only to find that it must have been one of the ones waiting to be put in the charger!

Thx but it's not mine. Sometimes it's easier to see a graphic to grasp the idea.

 

[bigbells]

At the same time, current state of the technology, slightly finer control can be had with VV. Most have 0.1 volt steps. Most VW is 0.5 watt steps.

The lower the coil resistance, the finer the 0.5 watt gradients become. With a 1.0 ohm resistance, for example, changes of 0.5 watts actually produce smaller variances (finer tuning) than changes of 0.1 volts. Do I understand how it all works? Heck no, I only know enough to be dangerous. I use this online tool frequently:
Watts - volts - amps - ohms conversion calculator

 

[3mg Meniere]

Legolas, love the graphic!

I just stick my topper on whatever device I'm using and adjust the volts to where it tastes good... Of course that may have to change when my mechanical gets here.

Whenever I put a new battery in my vv devices I've developed the habit of checking the charge. I mistakenly stuck a "new" battery in before flying out the door once only to find that it must have been one of the ones waiting to be put in the charger!

I just decided last night to do the opposite. Since each charge on my 650's lasts for more than a day, I will remove the previous day's battery, put it in the charger, and replace it with the charged battery: each and every morning, the first thing.

Son has decided to follow directions when mixing. LOL. He is at 4mg.

 

[AndriaD]

SUCCESS!

I now have approx 15ml of roughly 8mg, and approx 10ml of roughly 6mg, all thinner than the VG Virginia, but TASTING GOOD, so thank goodness I went ahead and tasted that Hangsen Virginia this morning; the taste isn't *exactly* like the MFS Virginia, but it's not bad at all, and it's a lot thinner than the VG version of MFS Virginia, so it's gotta be substantially PG. This should last me just fine until Monday, when the order I place on Friday for the MFS PG Virginia is delivered. (they did finally get it back in stock) And if I should start to run short, though I don't think I will, I still about 2ml of the 6mg, about 4ml of the 18mg, and about 4ml of the Hangsen 12mg, plus the plain PG and 6mg PG I have. So I should be able to make it just fine.


One of my favorite quotes is appropriate here...
"I love it when a plan comes together!"

Andria

 

[garyoa1]

VAPE MAIL.
Vamo from FT. Not a bad lookin' piece.

 

[gerrymi]

Vape to your pleasure point, not what some techie (I do count myself as one, as a retired power plant electrician!) says is "better."

You really need to know the limits of the battery and how many amps its is rated for

Thanx guys (and 1wildman and bigbells--whose posts were eliminated due to my ineptitude with "Advanced Reply"). I understand what you're saying...but as a "relative" newbie...I'm not sure I need all that information (yet).

My basic question...I have a MVP2 (V 3.3-5.0, W 6-11) and I'm lookin' to buy cartomizers for my IBTanked.

The cartomizer choices are 1.7Ω, 2.0Ω and 3.2Ω.

Which would be the "best" choice (and by "best" I mean, I think, give me the widest "usable range" given the V/W capabilities of my MVP2)?

 

[1wildman]

Thanx guys (and 1wildman and bigbells--whose posts were eliminated due to my ineptitude with "Advanced Reply"). I understand what you're saying...but as a "relative" newbie...I'm not sure I need all that information (yet).

My basic question...I have a MVP2 (V 3.3-5.0, W 6-11) and I'm lookin' to buy cartomizers for my IBTanked.

The cartomizer choices are 1.7Ω, 2.0Ω and 3.2Ω.

Which would be the "best" choice (and by "best" I mean, I think, give me the widest "usable range" given the V/W capabilities of my MVP2)?

Your MVP will put out a maximum of 5V or 11W... It will actually limit the volts so you cant exceed the 11W maximum (it is one of the few devices that do that as a lot of mods will allow you to exceed the VW max by cranking up the voltes).


Whoops misread and did quick calculations on 1.3 instead of 1.7ohm.... Either 1.7 or 2.0 will work best for your device. I would go with the 1.7ohm

 

[1wildman]

Cell Block 4 is a great change up from the Suicide Bunny's Mother Milk.... two awesome juices. Would be hard to pick between the two of them.

 

[Legolas]

Thanx guys (and 1wildman and bigbells--whose posts were eliminated due to my ineptitude with "Advanced Reply"). I understand what you're saying...but as a "relative" newbie...I'm not sure I need all that information (yet).

My basic question...I have a MVP2 (V 3.3-5.0, W 6-11) and I'm lookin' to buy cartomizers for my IBTanked.

The cartomizer choices are 1.7Ω, 2.0Ω and 3.2Ω.

Which would be the "best" choice (and by "best" I mean, I think, give me the widest "usable range" given the V/W capabilities of my MVP2)?

I prefer lower ohms but here is a chart for volts vs ohms. If in doubt go for 2.0. There won't be a huge difference between 1.7 and 2.0. If money isn't a big factor try all 3. I don't think I ever vaped over 2.75 ohms but I don't know what the resistance was on those early cartos from years ago.. I haven't used cartos in a long time.
Tutorial: Variable Voltage and Vaping Power Chart | Mist Hub

 

[1wildman]

I prefer lower ohms but here is a chart for volts vs ohms. If in doubt go for 2.0. There won't be a huge difference between 1.7 and 2.0. If money isn't a big factor try all 3. I don't think I ever vaped over 2.75 ohms but I don't know what the resistance was on those early cartos from years ago.. I haven't used cartos in a long time.
Tutorial: Variable Voltage and Vaping Power Chart | Mist Hub

I didnt recommend the 3ohm because it will only give you a range of 3.6W to 8.3W. I dont know if you can "under watt" the MVP by setting the voltage to the lowest setting. I know you cant exceed the 11W threshold by cranking up the voltage.

All this ohm's laws stuff today...feel like I am in physics class.

 

[bigbells]

Cell Block 4 is a great change up from the Suicide Bunny's Mother Milk.... two awesome juices. Would be hard to pick between the two of them.

I've never tried either one of those, but it would be fun to have some just for the names!

Hey! Whatcha vapin?
Oh, just some Suicide Bunny Mother's Milk.

 

[Janet H]

WooHoo! Vapemail today! Just got my new ProVari mini in metallic bronze with green LED. I figured with the threat of a huge tax hit it might be good to get it sooner rather than later.