Older Folks and Vaping Front Porch - Part Three

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Not entirely sure. I've read the text of the summary of the bill (which is all I have a link for at the moment), and it depends on a close reading of a few key phrases. It comes down to whether a flavor by itself is considered a "a substance in any form sold for the purpose of being vaporized or aerosolized." I would guess yes, when it's sold as a flavor for use in e-liquid.

All I can say is, I'm glad I bought a lot of 4oz bottles of TFA flavors, and I hope they last a long time.
There basing it all on the " targeting kids" thing. They have a whole TV adds going around here how big tobacco is marketing for kids. Even to the point of putting the cig posters down low on the doors at the store so kids will see the and putting toys on top of the cigarette rack behind the counters. There saying that flavored cigs and cigars are to entice kids to start smoking.
From what I read in the bill, there only going after retailers and not Internet sails at this point. It would put the whole vape shop business underground. Prohibition all over again. All the kids will want it more because it's underground and sneaky.
 
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You know the thing that really pisses me off about these new laws is they are not based on the facts. If they are so worried about teenagers buying the juice because it sounnds good by the name and then becoming addicted to nicotine. Which is one of their arguments why don't they stop the sales of flavored Vodka. They really don't want to stop it they just want to tax the crap out of it. Why don't they try cleaning their own house before cleaning ours. They are all thieves and liars but they know whats best for us. I see the Obamas vacation at Christmas cost more than 20mil. Hope they had fun. Is he a closet vaper? Just the cost of the air transportation was 11mil to get all the cars and helicopters to Hawaii. This was 2 years ago they just finally came out with the costs. At least we got a 1.5% raise.
 

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You know the thing that really pisses me off about these new laws is they are not based on the facts. If they are so worried about teenagers buying the juice because it sounnds good by the name and then becoming addicted to nicotine. Which is one of their arguments why don't they stop the sales of flavored Vodka. They really don't want to stop it they just want to tax the crap out of it. Why don't they try cleaning their own house before cleaning ours. They are all thieves and liars but they know whats best for us. I see the Obamas vacation at Christmas cost more than 20mil. Hope they had fun. Is he a closet vaper? Just the cost of the air transportation was 11mil to get all the cars and helicopters to Hawaii. This was 2 years ago they just finally came out with the costs. At least we got a 1.5% raise.

Problem with nic is, no one told the lawmakers it's not a carcinogen. It's got a bad rap for that. And the kids are already hooked on caffeine and sugar. They don't seem to mind that.
 

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You know the thing that really pisses me off about these new laws is they are not based on the facts. If they are so worried about teenagers buying the juice because it sounnds good by the name and then becoming addicted to nicotine. Which is one of their arguments why don't they stop the sales of flavored Vodka. They really don't want to stop it they just want to tax the crap out of it. Why don't they try cleaning their own house before cleaning ours. They are all thieves and liars but they know whats best for us. I see the Obamas vacation at Christmas cost more than 20mil. Hope they had fun. Is he a closet vaper? Just the cost of the air transportation was 11mil to get all the cars and helicopters to Hawaii. This was 2 years ago they just finally came out with the costs. At least we got a 1.5% raise.
And that was one trip 2 years ago. Multiply that by how many times he, or Michelle by herself (requiring seperate transportation), have been there since he took office.
 

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Yup, and it's probably $150,000 every time he goes golfing. All the presidents men and all!

I do not like Obama at all. That said, he's the president and unfortunately gets a vacation. All the presidents before him did and I am sure all the ones after him will. Is the cost outrageous? Yes. Is it ever going to change? No.

Sent with no malice and not a whole lot of forethought from my new Galaxy Tab 4. Thanks Santa!
 

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I do not like Obama at all. That said, he's the president and unfortunately gets a vacation. All the presidents before him did and I am sure all the ones after him will. Is the cost outrageous? Yes. Is it ever going to change? No.

Sent with no malice and not a whole lot of forethought from my new Galaxy Tab 4. Thanks Santa!
Vacations. Every other week. Not to be interrupted by pesky job issues.
 
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Well the more I use this Kanger the better I like it. Really easy to fill. With that short wick easy to change flavors. I am on my 3rd tank and 3 different flavors. Takes about 5 puffs and the new flavor comes through strong. I have no use for the Sub ohm heads but this RBA section is awesome. I am vaping it at about 14w air wide open and it is really good. I start with 1 hole about 10w and work my way up to 14 with all 3 open and it is really good. After this tank I will check my insulator and see if anything has happened, but I know there is a fix coming. I am still using a 1.5 microcoil and I am really liking this beast. I need to do some weight lifting any way. And the part about only holding 4.2ml with RBA section it still fills it up to the top of the glass section. It's kind of a juice guzzler but what the hay. Oh and it is a little noisy too.
 

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There basing it all on the " targeting kids" thing. They have a whole TV adds going around here how big tobacco is marketing for kids. Even to the point of putting the cig posters down low on the doors at the store so kids will see the and putting toys on top of the cigarette rack behind the counters. There saying that flavored cigs and cigars are to entice kids to start smoking.
From what I read in the bill, there only going after retailers and not Internet sails at this point. It would put the whole vape shop business underground. Prohibition all over again. All the kids will want it more because it's underground and sneaky.

And they also say ganja is a "gateway" drug......
 

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An update on my DNA 40 vaping. I built a nickel coil for one of my Taifuns and it's working well. I have the temp set at 400 deg and I'm vaping a Chocolaet Milkshake juice I made up. It can be a little harsher than my ADV so I left the watts at 19 and the coil turned out to be .12. It's vaping well and the temp doesn't even brake 300 deg. The nice thing about the Flask is the top display! You can watch what it's doing while you vape!
 

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Well I have made my decision its going to be another Kanger. Easy to fill, don't have to drain it to work on coil or wick, remove the head to change wash rewick, don't have to get any water in the air intake, Flavor is great, easy to change air flow, rock solid. I won't be changing it over to a clearomizer so only have to remove those little screws once. Before I actually order it I am going to run a tank of Pirates Booty through it, they only one I have with a corrosive flavor, Ripe Banana but only 1% then I will check the insulator. Plus with 10% off at eciggity only $40. I think it will look great on the Vapor Shark if I ever get it shipped to me. The new batch are a little wider because they installed the wireless charging unit inside. Shouldn't even hang over,Much. Don't have to worry about putting an Oring in the positive post so it stays out enough like the Lemo.
 
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