Older Folks and Vaping Front Porch - Part Three
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99.8% of DIY is figuring out all the little tricks like calculators, equipment and suppliers. Making it is a piece of cake equaling 0%. The other two percent is learning to tweak a recipe to what you prefer. It's overwhelming when you first try it, we've all been there and we all learned to get over ourselves too. 
Highly doubt you can come up with something we haven't already done. If you do though, we want to hear all about it.
Highly doubt you can come up with something we haven't already done. If you do though, we want to hear all about it.
8% Capellas Vanilla Custard
4% TFA Vanilla Custard
5% TFA Dulce De Leche
6% TFA French vanilla Deluxe
for
30ML of liquid.
divide the Percentage by the total amount
.08÷30 Capellas Vanilla Custard
.04÷30 TFA Vanilla Custard
.05÷30 TFA Dulce De Leche
.06÷30 TFA French vanilla Deluxe
2.4 ml Capellas Vanilla Custard
1.2 ml TFA Vanilla Custard
1.5 ml TFA Dulce De Leche
1.8 ml TFA French vanilla Deluxe
well Gee...Blue cheese, omg! My dad might start vaping just for that. Oh wait, he been brainwashed, never mind.I'll wait until they come out with longhorn.
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LongHorn E-liquid | Halo E Liquid
Deb, I hope you're feeling better, this morning. Chronic pain is so insidious ... I think sometimes we don't know how bad it was til we get a reprieve!
Roto, know what you mean. DIY seems pretty daunting, doesn't it! Guess we'll just have to dive in and rely on these good folks to guide us through. Wonder if the thread supports FaceTime
Iffy, I'm not so great at cakes, but I'm a pretty good cook. Problem is, I usually use recipes a a starting point - even the first time! And I've been cooking for so long that I don't think about it much, anymore. Just do it. Ah well ... I learned to vape, right? So maybe you CAN teach an ol' bird new tricks
Everyone, thanks for your faith in me, undeserved and unwarranted though it may prove to be! Here goes ...
Two questions: 1) Source for organic, good flavorings?
2) Source/vendor for base (pre-mixed PG/VG with pharma-grade nic)?
Cost is not a primary consideration -- this has to be less expensive than the juices I buy! Would greatly prefer domestic stuff, unless, of course, higher quality is made elsewhere. Eech! Please tell me this isn't gonna be like learning about wine!
Roto, know what you mean. DIY seems pretty daunting, doesn't it! Guess we'll just have to dive in and rely on these good folks to guide us through. Wonder if the thread supports FaceTime
Iffy, I'm not so great at cakes, but I'm a pretty good cook. Problem is, I usually use recipes a a starting point - even the first time! And I've been cooking for so long that I don't think about it much, anymore. Just do it. Ah well ... I learned to vape, right? So maybe you CAN teach an ol' bird new tricks
Everyone, thanks for your faith in me, undeserved and unwarranted though it may prove to be! Here goes ...
Two questions: 1) Source for organic, good flavorings?
2) Source/vendor for base (pre-mixed PG/VG with pharma-grade nic)?
Cost is not a primary consideration -- this has to be less expensive than the juices I buy! Would greatly prefer domestic stuff, unless, of course, higher quality is made elsewhere. Eech! Please tell me this isn't gonna be like learning about wine!
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Heh, not a bleu cheeze fan at all. But being a chocoholic I said the same thing about chocolate. Ewwwe.
Even the thot was.... can you say.... stomach turner? Then I tried it. (And no, I have no idea why I did) Now it's almost the only thing I vape.
So as they say, don't knock it til you tried it.
Me? I refuse!!!!
I've given up on chocolate and coffee. I put my coffee-compatible flavorings by my coffee-maker and put a few drops in whenever I want something a bit different. Lot cheaper than Torani-- I use up a bottle of that stuff in a day or two.
Well I don't know what happened to my post but I use syringes I have a 1,3,5,12,20,35,and 60ml syringes. Makes it easy. If I like a juice I make 100ml at a time it is easier then making 30. I have a piece of plastic tubing because I have gallon bottles of PG/VG mix 50/50 so I can get to the bottom. My nic is 50/50 base my flavors are all PG base so however much flavor I put it I offset it with straight VG to keep it at 50/50. 100mg nic is easier to work with when making 100ml bottles. If you like 18mg you add 18ml 3mg 3ml. Makes it easy and if you use the ejuicemeup and save your recipe you can look it up each time. Just don't have anyone bothering you while you are doing it because it will screw you up.
Legs, does your wife try to inhale the same way she does with a cigarette? If so, I think it would be good to tell her that vaping is not exactly like smoking, and that the nasal passages absorb nicotine quite readily even without inhaling.
Those are tall requirements that I believe cannot currently be met by any retailer, and there is also no seller of pre-made e-liquid who meets those requirements. Most flavorings are chemically produced and are therefore, by definition, not organic. Although there is now one producer of nicotine liquid made exclusively from US-grown tobacco that is pesticide-free, they sell it only in industrial quantities. I am not aware of any reseller of e-liquid (yet) who uses that US-created nicotine. All of the retailers of nicotine juice at this point use nicotine purchased from China and India.Two questions: 1) Source for organic, good flavorings?
2) Source/vendor for base (pre-mixed PG/VG with pharma-grade nic)?
Cost is not a primary consideration -- this has to be less expensive than the juices I buy! Would greatly prefer domestic stuff, unless, of course, higher quality is made elsewhere. Eech! Please tell me this isn't gonna be like learning about wine!
All of the retailers of pre-made, pre-flavored e-liquid likewise use Asian-sourced nicotine. Since nicotine liquid is not a prescription item, there really isn't any such thing as pharmacy grade nicotine liquid, to the best of my knowledge. Or, to look at it another way, if ANY nicotine liquid is pharmacy grade, then ALL nicotine liquid is pharmacy grade. Pharmacy products such as gum and patches that contain nicotine use Asian sources for the nicotine.
In short, you're seeking standards that are not currently available and that no retailer of ingredients or of pre-made juice provides. Most of us use the least expensive nicotine liquid we can find, because we find that the quality is the same regardless of price. There are some, though, who find that some liquid nicotine has what they refer to as a "peppery" taste. I'm clueless about that, having never tasted pepper in any liquid nicotine, but those who say they can detect such a taste also claim that there are places to buy nicotine liquid that is free of peppery taste. I was thinking that http://www.vaportekusa.com/ was such a place but I was not able to find any unflavored liquid nicotine on that site. (Vaportekusa does say, however, that their pre-made e-liquid is made from "all natural" ingredients, whatever that means.)
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Thanks for replying, Bells. I've read descriptions of ejuice from a few manufacturers of pre-made (I.e., flavored) juice who proportedly use nic from US tobacco, processed in the US, to 99.5% purity (which does beg the question of what's in the remaining .5%). Perhaps I misunderstood what I was reading ... Wouldn't be the first time! It does seem, though, that there must be domestic sources that test and certify their nic, PG and VG to some standard. Is this not the case? Appreciate your help!
Can you give a link for an e-juice maker who says they use US-grown tobacco for the nicotine in their e-juice? It would surprise me, but it's been maybe 4 months since I researched. At that time, there was no such e-juice maker.
Many sellers of e-juice say that their juice is "made in the USA". This does not mean that the nicotine is from US-grown tobacco. In fact, it doesn't even mean that there's even one ingredient that was created in the US. It only means that the mixing of the ingredients was done in the US.
I do not know of any PG or VG that is not USP grade, including the PG that is sold by Tractor Supply as a livestock supplement. Testing of nic juice is common, but that doesn't mean that it was made in the US.
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I can't get my phone to copy the URL. Sorry!
I was perusing this site over the weekend -- The Vapor Girl Inc.ETA: I guess it worked
ETA: should have said she has a news release under the "News" tab
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Eek, that a tobacco flavor, but thanks.
Two questions: 1) Source for organic, good flavorings?
2) Source/vendor for base (pre-mixed PG/VG with pharma-grade nic)?
Cost is not a primary consideration -- this has to be less expensive than the juices I buy! Would greatly prefer domestic stuff, unless, of course, higher quality is made elsewhere. Eech! Please tell me this isn't gonna be like learning about wine!
Asked elsewhere and and was recommended this for organic flavors. Natures Flavours
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I can't get my phone to copy the URL. Sorry!
ETA: I guess it worked
ETA: should have said she has a news release under the "News" tab
Most curious. I would really like to know where she buys here raw nic juice. North Carolina grown tobacco. One of those things that make you say... mmmmm mm.
Sent with no malice and not a whole lot of forethought from my new Galaxy Tab 4. Thanks Santa!
Someone started up with US extracted nic last year, as in withing the last eight months or so.
Here's what Wizard Labs says about their nic:
USP grade Organic Nicotine extract minimum >99.8% diluted in a carrier base of Propylene Glycol and/or vegetable derived Glycerin for research and product applications. The nicotine base used exclusively in Wizard Labs line of solutions undergoes extraction 5-6 times per year in partnership with one of the providing labs to Johnson & Johnson's global line of NRT products for the assurance of chemical purity, quality control, and reliability. Ingredients: Pure USP grade organic nicotine extract, USP grade Kosher certified Propylene Glycol and/or USP grade Kosher certified vegetable Glycerin carrier base fluid. Wizard Labs nicotine solutions contain no other preservatives or chemical additives. USP Nicotine Solutions
It's why I buy their stuff instead of cheaper nic.
Here's what Wizard Labs says about their nic:
USP grade Organic Nicotine extract minimum >99.8% diluted in a carrier base of Propylene Glycol and/or vegetable derived Glycerin for research and product applications. The nicotine base used exclusively in Wizard Labs line of solutions undergoes extraction 5-6 times per year in partnership with one of the providing labs to Johnson & Johnson's global line of NRT products for the assurance of chemical purity, quality control, and reliability. Ingredients: Pure USP grade organic nicotine extract, USP grade Kosher certified Propylene Glycol and/or USP grade Kosher certified vegetable Glycerin carrier base fluid. Wizard Labs nicotine solutions contain no other preservatives or chemical additives. USP Nicotine Solutions
It's why I buy their stuff instead of cheaper nic.
Although I can't tell ya if 'organic' flavs are good or not (I haven't tried 'em), here's a quick GOOGLE search.
There are a few vendors that will 'custom' pre-mix PG/VG/nic (sorry, can't remember which ones).
Keep in mind that chances are that you're now most likely vaping a US blended joose with Chinese nic, and possibly flavs also.
USA extracted nic USA Liquid Nicotine, LLC | USA Liquid Nicotine Is The First-To-Market Of US Extracted Nicotine On A Large Commercial Scale From US Grown Tobacco For E-Liquid Industry
Made in USA now usually means it is put together in USA from foreign "parts."
Made in USA now usually means it is put together in USA from foreign "parts."
Perhaps I need to be more skeptical. I am about many (similar) claims - such as when a restauranteur says they use only local produce
Hadn't thought the same nonsense might exist in this arena. Naive 
Perhaps I need to be more skeptical. I am about many (similar) claims - such as when a restauranteur says they use only local produce
I thought I was pretty skeptical until I joined ECF. It's kind of shocking what you learn here. Heck, I didn't even really know what was in cigarettes until I came here, but I thought I knew.
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