Older Folks and Vaping Front Porch - Part Three

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Iffy

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... but it is not legal to threaten disciplinary action or insist that it is "mandatory".

In that case, get any and all documentation, record (notes) conversations (where, when and who). Then if you feel 'threatened', contact your state attorney and department of health.

Keep in mind, it's easy for me to type all this sitting here, BUT all 'they' have to do is mess up just one documented time!

My best hopes for you! I hate being trapped twix a needed employment and whim$ of management, with my sense of 'right' right in the middle. Good luck!
 

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In that case, get any and all documentation, record (notes) conversations (where, when and who). Then if you feel 'threatened', contact your state attorney and department of health.

Keep in mind, it's easy for me to type all this sitting here, BUT all 'they' have to do is mess up just one documented time!

My best hopes for you! I hate being trapped twix a needed employment and whim$ of management, with my sense of 'right' right in the middle. Good luck!

Sorry to stray so far off topic. I get started and can't stop.

4.5 months smoke free. Up with the sun so off to bed. Nite all thanks for listening to the ranting.
 

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Metal Storm is zooming along.
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Nope, that will give them a reason to raise them even more.
No doubt. :( Still like to see them eat it over it though.

the only problems like that I had from vaping was when I first started and was using store bought ejuice. Just about gave up on vaping, switched to DIY with no artificial ingredients and all has been fine since.
Recently trying some different flavorings. 3 so far cause issues, they went in trash. 3 others so far ok, still experimenting.
I know you said before but can't remember the answer, what problems did you have?

I responded to my own service ticket this morning, asking if my initial message had gotten lost over the weekend. Within an hour I got a response, saying I could return the mod for credit or refund, including what I pay for shipping to get it back to MFS.

So how did you fare through the storm?
Yay! Wonderful news. :)

I doubt that.

I find that I need to rotate several flavs a day (currently four) to keep my t-buds interested. In fact I pulled out some peach that I got bored with several months ago. Now I remember why I liked it for so long, day-um good, again!

I have a 'coffee theory' regarding jooses. Which is your best tasting cup o' coffee of da day? Chances are, da first one (caffeine aside). T-buds can be fickle lil' papillae...

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Look remarkably like a cluster of sea anemones, minus the clown fish.

Got some good news today. Our benefits director went over the few changes to our insurance this year and I am no longer considered a tobacco user so I don't have to pay the extra cost for that. It's a good thing too because the extra charge is going up from $15 to $25 every two weeks. :ohmy: First paycheck I get in July should be $15 more for me than they have been.

I'm still having a bit of a fight with them on their mandatory health screenings since the exams are completely unrelated to work and require us to release the provider from all liability, allow them to sell our personal info and exam results to anyone they want and includes having blood drawn.

My bodily fluids, email address, home address, phone #, etc. are mine. I shouldn't have to let some outside firm sample them and tell anyone they want what it contains and suffer no penalty if they screw it up taking it from me just to keep my job. I come in on time every day and do my best and I resent being bullied. Considering a consultation with a lawyer over this.
That is so wrong. I have a huge, humongous beef with the crap insurance companies and totalitarian pharmacies like CVS are getting away with. I would highlight those clauses and write "absolutely not under any circumstances" by it. With the runaround you're getting, how about handing all the information over to a local reporter? (Try Iffy's way first.) It can't be legal to force someone to sell their private information as a term of employment. If it is, it needs to be changed NOW.

BTW, my husband's employer lost all of his personal information, our health insurance lost all our information and now it looks like the IRS has done the same. If they can't sell it, apparently they just give it away. :grr:

In that case, get any and all documentation, record (notes) conversations (where, when and who). Then if you feel 'threatened', contact your state attorney and department of health.

Keep in mind, it's easy for me to type all this sitting here, BUT all 'they' have to do is mess up just one documented time!

My best hopes for you! I hate being trapped twix a needed employment and whim$ of management, with my sense of 'right' right in the middle. Good luck!
What the beagle said.

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I know you said before but can't remember the answer, what problems did you have?

My mouth felt like it had been slow burned after about 3 days of vaping store bought juice. Felt puffed up and total loss of taste. Not just loss of taste but was very uncomfortable. I went back to the tobacco and it got better after a couple of days. Tried the juice again same thing. Tried 6 more juices and same thing. Ordered no artificial additive flavorings, nic and VG/PG and made my own juice and all was well. After about a month tried some of the bought juices again and had the same funkmouth...

Most of the bought juices also had artificial and perfumy flavors to me. I have tried some TFA flavorings that give me the same tastes.
I can vape my no artificial additive DIY juices all day day after day and not lose my taste. I made some TFA cantelope and vaped about 1 mil of it, not very good and perfumy/chemical taste and I started to get the funky mouth thing again...
Something in many of the flavorings.... Sucralose? I dunno.
I am vapoing the CAP Vanilla Custard and yes with the dyketones. And so far so good. Pretty darned tasty too.
 

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My mouth felt like it had been slow burned after about 3 days of vaping store bought juice. Felt puffed up and total loss of taste. Not just loss of taste but was very uncomfortable. I went back to the tobacco and it got better after a couple of days. Tried the juice again same thing. Tried 6 more juices and same thing. Ordered no artificial additive flavorings, nic and VG/PG and made my own juice and all was well. After about a month tried some of the bought juices again and had the same funkmouth...

Most of the bought juices also had artificial and perfumy flavors to me. I have tried some TFA flavorings that give me the same tastes.
I can vape my no artificial additive DIY juices all day day after day and not lose my taste. I made some TFA cantelope and vaped about 1 mil of it, not very good and perfumy/chemical taste and I started to get the funky mouth thing again...
Something in many of the flavorings.... Sucralose? I dunno.
I am vapoing the CAP Vanilla Custard and yes with the dyketones. And so far so good. Pretty darned tasty too.
Okay, gotcha. My worst problems have been, I guess, allergy related. Same symptoms, asthma, as I get to a local allergen in the soil here. Developed it with one TFA flavor and Wal-Mart VG. Guess I'm past the vaper's tongue thing except when I vape one flavor all the time. No biggie, just switch to the other flavor for a bit. Sorry about your troubles, no fun.
 

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the only problems like that I had from vaping was when I first started and was using store bought ejuice. Just about gave up on vaping, switched to DIY with no artificial ingredients and all has been fine since.
Recently trying some different flavorings. 3 so far cause issues, they went in trash. 3 others so far ok, still experimenting.

Store bought, as in B&M vs Online ?
 

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That's good to know, thanks. Planning on getting a Reo Friday and was looking at atomizers. Thought I'd go with a Reomizer for my first and the 4.0 is the one I was looking at.

Does it leak any? Is it really good with a single coil? I hate fooling with dual coil builds.

Looks good on your mod. The website pics aren't very flattering.
Oh yeah..I run a single 7 wrap 26ga. kanthal on the 2mm rod for the jig..comes out at around .7 ohms and is a very good flavor chaser coil...No leaking unless you over squonk my friend..That's with all attys though for BF mods. :thumbs:
 

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Full two week steep with the FA 7 Leaves ain't too bad. It's got a bit of that sour tobacco inhale and the exhale isn't all that perfumy at this point. I bet the sweet spot for me will be somewhere between 10-15 drops. The RY4 is still not coming through at all, really. The TH with my mix in a dripper is a bit much. Gonna start using higher VG nic base to mix the PG flavoring in. Hopefully that will hit more smooth.

So did I run everybody off or what? :unsure:
No I had to take a nap and was woke up by leg cramps..I went to the doctors today for back injections and being a new paitent,..I have to wait two weeks for my insurance to confirm that they will pay for those..I told him it always did when I was in Georgia at the other pain management clinic,.. but it did no good and I only got the pain meds..Now I can sit here with almost as much back pain and be sleepy at the same time....Doesn't that sound like FUN?!? :facepalm:
 

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Got some good news today. Our benefits director went over the few changes to our insurance this year and I am no longer considered a tobacco user so I don't have to pay the extra cost for that. It's a good thing too because the extra charge is going up from $15 to $25 every two weeks. :ohmy: First paycheck I get in July should be $15 more for me than they have been.

I'm still having a bit of a fight with them on their mandatory health screenings since the exams are completely unrelated to work and require us to release the provider from all liability, allow them to sell our personal info and exam results to anyone they want and includes having blood drawn.

My bodily fluids, email address, home address, phone #, etc. are mine. I shouldn't have to let some outside firm sample them and tell anyone they want what it contains and suffer no penalty if they screw it up taking it from me just to keep my job. I come in on time every day and do my best and I resent being bullied. Considering a consultation with a lawyer over this.
Insurance..Pffffft.:-x
 

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Like I told iffy, they don't get the results from the test so they would have no idea from this exam if you are fit enough to do anything. If they got rid of the people who were out of shape, most of the people at City Hall would be gone.

But there is no test like that where I work. We don't have to meet some fitness level to maintain employment. The feds do mandate that I have to maintain a valid DOT medical card at all times. That is all they need to know about my health but you know what? They don't even want to see the card and they are required to keep a copy of it on file. They won't take the employer copy and put it in my employee file like they are required to by law. :lol:
That sounds like the old DOT Physical card I had to carry before I was doctor banhammered out of driving..Without that DOT Physical card,..a CDL isn't worth the plastic it's printed on.
 

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My mouth felt like it had been slow burned after about 3 days of vaping store bought juice. Felt puffed up and total loss of taste. Not just loss of taste but was very uncomfortable. I went back to the tobacco and it got better after a couple of days. Tried the juice again same thing. Tried 6 more juices and same thing. Ordered no artificial additive flavorings, nic and VG/PG and made my own juice and all was well. After about a month tried some of the bought juices again and had the same funkmouth...

Most of the bought juices also had artificial and perfumy flavors to me. I have tried some TFA flavorings that give me the same tastes.
I can vape my no artificial additive DIY juices all day day after day and not lose my taste. I made some TFA cantelope and vaped about 1 mil of it, not very good and perfumy/chemical taste and I started to get the funky mouth thing again...
Something in many of the flavorings.... Sucralose? I dunno.
I am vapoing the CAP Vanilla Custard and yes with the dyketones. And so far so good. Pretty darned tasty too.
Sounds very much like you are sensitive to dyketones my friend..My mouth feels like a squirrel has been running around inside there if I vape too much dyketones.
That NT ACB is good but WOAH..dyketones out the yin yang! :shock:
 

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Cool tips! What material are they?
DavidO..the Woodvil' ...
Random Segmented -- Black Walnut, Mahogany, Lacewood, Maple, Indonesian Rosewood by Molehill Mountain Drip Tips

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The Reo LPG --- Indonesian Rosewood on Amboyna Burl.....also MhM

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No I had to take a nap and was woke up by leg cramps..I went to the doctors today for back injections and being a new paitent,..I have to wait two weeks for my insurance to confirm that they will pay for those..I told him it always did when I was in Georgia at the other pain management clinic,.. but it did no good and I only got the pain meds..Now I can sit here with almost as much back pain and be sleepy at the same time....Doesn't that sound like FUN?!? :facepalm:
That's +++++++ insane. Pretty soon people are going to be wheeled into ERs in critical condition and have to wait weeks for insurance companies to decide if they need treatment or not. This micro management of some medications is ridiculous. I know some people abuse but they don't seem to be the ones having any trouble getting them. :grr:

DavidO..the Woodvil' ...
Random Segmented -- Black Walnut, Mahogany, Lacewood, Maple, Indonesian Rosewood by Molehill Mountain Drip Tips

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The Reo LPG --- Indonesian Rosewood on Amboyna Burl.....also MhM

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Molehill Mountain drip tips are gorgeous and those are a couple of my favorites. I don't go there anymore to window shop, I want to buy them all. :lol:
 
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