Older Folks and Vaping Front Porch - Part Three

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Allen wrench sockets have a short (one or two inch) allen stuck in it and held in by a set screw. I believe, reason being that the allen is case hardened steel and the socket itself isn't. Just not practical to mold a one piece allen/socket. The set screw isn't really meant so you can replace the allen, just more feasible to do it that way. They're quite handy when you get into heavier machinery.
 

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hangy down part... hehehe... weminz... hehe

I don't see why you couldn't cut off the hangy down part and use it that way, if the Allen key is small enough to fit into one of the 4 chucks on the "swively handle" thingy you linked.

hehehe

p.s. I cut off the hangy down part of an Allen key once, and made an egg-shaped "bulb" on one end with JB Weld... makes it a lot easier to take off the barrel of a 10/22.

you were talkin my language til you got to that part. lol

I reckon that MIGHT work. I say might, rather than will, because it's going to be pretty durn difficult to saw off the Allen key above the elbow without boogering that end of the now straight hexagonal shaft. Regardless of whether you stick that end in the pin vise, or use that end as the working end, the boogering might cause problems.

Boogering is of course a HIGHLY technical term, but I'm agonna assume you catch the drift.

elbow.........that's a good way to say it. I was thinkin a bolt cutter or sumpthin. But actually thought i'd pm Russ, the guy who does the videos where I saw this set up and see how he did it. But he mighta just bought some that were already straight. Not sure. Boogerin I understand! lol
 

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I reckon that MIGHT work. I say might, rather than will, because it's going to be pretty durn difficult to saw off the Allen key above the elbow without boogering that end of the now straight hexagonal shaft. Regardless of whether you stick that end in the pin vise, or use that end as the working end, the boogering might cause problems.

Boogering is of course a HIGHLY technical term, but I'm agonna assume you catch the drift.

Nope. Easy-peasy. (even higher tech term) :D
 

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Hangy down part, swively handle thingy, and boogering the end are all very technical terms. Right up there with doo hickey and thingamabob or thingamajig. ;)

Jup........and just so everyone will be up to speed......... Florida is comprised of two main parts. The sticky out part.......and the hangy down part. :laugh: (yes my son always made fun of me for that, but everyone knew what I meant)
 

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Allen wrench sockets have a short (one or two inch) allen stuck in it and held in by a set screw. I believe, reason being that the allen is case hardened steel and the socket itself isn't. Just not practical to mold a one piece allen/socket. The set screw isn't really meant so you can replace the allen, just more feasible to do it that way. They're quite handy when you get into heavier machinery.

The fact that I've never seen such a thing (and have a hard time visualizing it) is probably due to the fact that the largest Allen key I've ever used is probably no more than 1/4 of an inch. I know I've used one that size but can't recall using any that was larger.
 

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Hangy down part, swively handle thingy, and boogering the end are all very technical terms. Right up there with doo hickey and thingamabob or thingamajig. ;)

Hey, I speak hangy down thing and doo hickey - my wife borrows my tools all the time... :facepalm: :D And she expects me to understand her also... :confused:
 

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Hangy down part, swively handle thingy, and boogering the end are all very technical terms. Right up there with doo hickey and thingamabob or thingamajig. ;)

Yep, as soon as I saw Debs questions, I knew it was gonna get real tecknica-logical, real quick.

you were talkin my language til you got to that part. lol



elbow.........that's a good way to say it. I was thinkin a bolt cutter or sumpthin. But actually thought i'd pm Russ, the guy who does the videos where I saw this set up and see how he did it. But he mighta just bought some that were already straight. Not sure. Boogerin I understand! lol

A dremel with a cut-off wheel or put the Allen KEY into a vise and use a hack saw with a fresh blade. Then use a file (or dremel with a sanding drum) to get rid of the burrs, y'know, the boogered up part. An Allen key is real hard, and real brittle... I don't think a bolt cutter would do a good job?

The fact that I've never seen such a thing (and have a hard time visualizing it) is probably due to the fact that the largest Allen key I've ever used is probably no more than 1/4 of an inch. I know I've used one that size but can't recall using any that was larger.

Check this: http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=hex+socket
 
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The fact that I've never seen such a thing (and have a hard time visualizing it) is probably due to the fact that the largest Allen key I've ever used is probably no more than 1/4 of an inch. I know I've used one that size but can't recall using any that was larger.

Yeah, around the home anything bigger n' that would be really odd. But get out into heavy equipment or machinery you'll find some you kin stick yer thumb in quite common.
 

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Allen wrench sockets have a short (one or two inch) allen stuck in it and held in by a set screw. I believe, reason being that the allen is case hardened steel and the socket itself isn't. Just not practical to mold a one piece allen/socket. The set screw isn't really meant so you can replace the allen, just more feasible to do it that way. They're quite handy when you get into heavier machinery.

Not one of my many allen sockets are the way you describe! Never even seen any as you describe with an included set screw...?
 

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Yeah, around the home anything bigger n' that would be really odd. But get out into heavy equipment or machinery you'll find some you kin stick yer thumb in quite common.

Come to think of it, I have used one that's 9/16 or 5/8 of an inch to manually turn the engine crank on my 1948 Allis-Chalmers B tractor. I didn't have a key that size, but made one out of an 8" or 10" long threaded eye-bolt, putting a couple of nuts of the appropriate size on the end. Or wait... my memory is tellin' me that I use the eye-bolt end to stick through the opening below the front grill to turn the engine crank, and that I put a ratchet and socket on the hex nuts at the threaded end of the shaft. It's been a while, will find out again very soon, since the weeds are startin' to grow.

Here she is. Ain't she purty!?

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Not one of my many allen sockets are the way you describe! Never even seen any as you describe with an included set screw...?

Really? Well mine do. (But they are older n' dirt!) :) I don't think all of the smaller ones do but you get over 1/4" or so they start showing up. I think it's mostly that after a while they tend to get loose too. So you can tighten them in.
 

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Really? Well mine do. (But they are older n' dirt!) :) I don't think all of the smaller ones do but you get over 1/4" or so they start showing up. I think it's mostly that after a while they tend to get loose too. So you can tighten them in.
Clearly, you've forgotten the rules. Without pics, it didn't happen. View attachment 421864
 

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Not one of my many allen sockets are the way you describe! Never even seen any as you describe with an included set screw...?

I've seen the big ones with set screws, but mine are not that way... they're just 3/8 drive tho.

Come to think of it, I have used one that's 9/16 or 5/8 of an inch to manually turn the engine crank on my 1948 Allis-Chalmers B tractor. I didn't have a key that size, but made one out of an 8" or 10" long threaded eye-bolt, putting a couple of nuts of the appropriate size on the end. Or wait... my memory is tellin' me that I use the eye-bolt end to stick through the opening below the front grill to turn the engine crank, and that I put a ratchet and socket on the hex nuts at the threaded end of the shaft. It's been a while, will find out again very soon, since the weeds are startin' to grow.

Here she is. Ain't she purty!?

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Now that's a TRACTOR right there! Is that a belly mower, or tiller, or some other implement? (can't see it very well)

added: You likely use the eyebolt end in the crankshaft slots. Glad you added that part. I've seen 'em with a bolt-head "knob" on the front of the crank, and some with a "cup" with slots, but not one you could put a nut into and get any traction.
 
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It's like a straight allen key and a handle, like a screwdriver. The handle can have a set screw in it so you can change the sizes. I have several small ones for my attys. The hex seems to hold better than the Phillips for them. JMHO What are you trying to do Deb? Put a handle on one?

Hi all, been over in Reoville for a bit learning all about them (and I have Deb to thank for showing me the actual path :D) I have wanted to try them and now I have. She gave me the push. I'm pretty hooked on them, just ordered a 3rd. Well built, small, simple and they just work, coil, a bit of wick, squonk, vape. Life just got a lot simpler. I have seen a few folks from here over there. The Woodvil sale is sorta soon and Rob is coming out with some hot resin designs. I am stickin' with the plain aluminum for now with work and all. Maybe next year for a Woodvil when I hopefully retire.

So welcome all new folks, the more the merrier. :toast: I have some KFL's and Lemo's I'd like pay forward, is there anyplace to post these, I don't really want to sell them, they were good to me. But I would gladly send them on to someone new that's maybe just getting started with KF's and the Lemo's a good atty that's pretty easy to build. I'm not getting rid of all of them but a few can go.

So hi all and now I have dogs to groom :unsure:
 

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Come to think of it, I have used one that's 9/16 or 5/8 of an inch to manually turn the engine crank on my 1948 Allis-Chalmers B tractor. I didn't have a key that size, but made one out of an 8" or 10" long threaded eye-bolt, putting a couple of nuts of the appropriate size on the end. Or wait... my memory is tellin' me that I use the eye-bolt end to stick through the opening below the front grill to turn the engine crank, and that I put a ratchet and socket on the hex nuts at the threaded end of the shaft. It's been a while, will find out again very soon, since the weeds are startin' to grow.

Here she is. Ain't she purty!?

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When we bought the property our house is on it had to be cleared. A friend loaned me his John Deere tractor (small one) and I disced and dragged (chopped up and then smoothed out) the cleared area. I had a grand time! I wanted my own tractor so for Christmas my DH gave me a toy John Deere.

That's one purdy tractor bells!
 
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