Older Folks and Vaping Front Porch - Part Three

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BacsiBob

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I used a stock OCC in the subtank mini when I first got it and it lasted around three days then the vape quality was lowering.So I thought well it is good so I can pull it apart now and I did and then went on to rebuild it.
Then there was some trial and error.
This one has been going for a week today and still relatively good. Probably close to the end of its life and sure to have much build up but still functioning.
So this rebuilt OCC has lasted longer and performed just as good - possibly better than the original stock OCC.

I think when its time to change it I'll put in a new coil and wick. Could just pull the wick out but then the coil would be all gunked up and could dry burn it but the gunk would just fall down inside the casing and its easy enough and fun to rebuild.

I have ordered a Kanger SubTank Plus and I'm really looking foward to it. I found this (less than 2 hr). video on rebuilding OCC coils and I think I can handle it.
Kanger Subtank OCC Build – RiPTrippers
 

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The company headquarters is in the US. I assume until shown otherwise that the tools are made in China, not that I refuse to buy stuff made in China. I'm a vaper, after all! I just think it's misleading to say they're a US company if the manufacturing is done elsewhere. I call such companies US-owned in order to make the difference clear. JMHO.

I used to work at a shirt company. Turns out the shirts were made in, I forget which country, but the fabric tags were sewn in in the U.S. and that qualified them to also sew in the Made in USA tag. So, you never really know where this stuff is made.

By the way, the good news is I got the job and I'm officially full-time, probationary, permanent faculty. The bad news is that I'm teaching another completely new course, which I'm building as I go. So, not a lot of time to stop and smell the roses, but I'm having fun.

Congratulations on your full-time, probationary, permanent position! So happy to hear that you're having fun. You are missed here when you're gone though.

And here we are tonight, and I cannot seem to stay away from the Maui sunrise from MBV and the black licorice. Strange how that works. On day you cannot settle on anything and the next, you cannot get enough of something. :)

Isn't that weird how our taste buds work? Yep, I've had the same thing happen to me.

Good Sunday Morning to all.

Edit to add: I celebrated 3 yrs. with no cigarettes on 3/16. Thank God for ecigs!!

Good Tuesday evening to you! It's been awhile so it's good you popped in. Oh, and Congratulations on 3 years away from the cigarettes!!

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Thought these folks did a nice job and Washington is in the same boat. :D



Here's a thread on how to use the new forum once they get it up and running. http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/forum-how-tos/666330-xen-foro-tips-tricks.html

ETA I'm sorry, I don't know why it won't post the video but the link does work.

Thanks, the link worked fine.
 

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Got that earlier today, but been mostly off the 'puter. But, I did email them all this:

I am writing as a voter and taxpaying Washintonian to express extreme
concern and opposition to HB 1645. This bill would severely limit
adult access to low-risk, smoke-free vapor products that are helping
millions of former smokers like me maintain a safe distance from
combustible cigarettes. Such an extreme price hike imposed on
products that help people quit smoking simply makes no sense. Although
I agree with the state’s desire to limit access to these products to
minors, this bill will limit adult access and, in fact, put myself and
others at risk of returning to smoking. Rather than endangering the
lives of adults that have made a conscious choice to improve their
health, the state should enforce the existing law that prohibits sales
of vapor products to minors.

Vapor products contain NO tobacco and are significantly LESS harmful
than smoking tobacco. MY health has improved since I made the switch,
MY doctor and MY dentist have both remarked on it. Taxing it out of
viable reach as a HARM REDUCTION method makes absolutely no sense.

Simply stated, vapor products should not be treated the same as
traditional combustible cigarettes. While nicotine may be what causes
many smokers to continue to smoke, nicotine use in and of itself is
not particularly hazardous. Rather, it is smoking -- lighting
something on fire and inhaling the products of combustion -- that
causes the whole host of very serious health problems associated with
smoking. E-cigarettes do not involve combustion and are estimated to
be 99% less hazardous than smoking.

Ostensibly, taxes on traditional cigarettes are intended to discourage
use and offset expenses incurred by taxpayers due to health problems
attributed to smoking. However, due to the fact that e-cigarettes
have not been shown to be a threat to public health (and, in fact, are
a health boon to those who have made the switch or who have reduced
their smoking using e-cigarettes), discouraging use is counter to
goals of reducing smoking rates. Taxing e-cigarettes in a manner
similar to how cigarettes are taxed sends a confusing and inaccurate
message to would be adopters that these two very different products
present similar risks. The result of this message is that more
people, those that otherwise would have switched to a smoke free
product, will be encouraged to continue smoking -- 1.1 million
Washington residents will actually be encouraged to continue smoking
instead of making the switch to low-risk product like e-cigarettes.

HB 1645 creates unnecessary, complicated, and expensive hurdles for
businesses (onerous requirements regarding licensing, shipping, etc.).
This is not only bad for businesses, it’s bad for consumers. These
requirements will dramatically increase costs, force many (if not
most) businesses to close, and severely limit my access to the
products I rely upon to remain smoke-free.

Banning internet sales appears to be an infringement of my rights to
interstate commerce.

Banning all components (Section 15) includes, among many other common
items, the screws that hold vaping devices together. So are Home Depot
and McLendon's going to have to get waivers? Flashlights were used to
build some early vaping devices. Are they to be illegal to buy on the
internet?

I look forward to your response on this issue. I, along with my fellow
members of CASAA (Consumer Advocates for Smoke-free Alternatives
Association), thank you for considering my comments and hope you will
oppose misguided attempts to limit adult use of smoke-free
e-cigarettes. Please keep me informed of the progress of these bills
as they move through the legislative process and feel free to contact
me with any questions you might have regarding this issue.

(Feel free to use, cut and paste, etc :) )

Only one reply - from my State Senator's office:
David,
Thank you for taking the time to share your concerns about HB 1645. We can appreciate your perspective and have printed out your email for Senator Becker to read. This bill has not had any action in the Senate. However, that could change at any time.

This has been a widely discussed issue here in Olympia and across the state. Senator Becker has not favored taxes in the past, and will be paying close attention to these bills as the session comes to a close this month.

Thank you for your input and your involvement.

Best regards,

Stephanie DeHart - Session Aide to
Washington State Senator Randi Becker

Keep writing and calling!

Fantastic letter David .. thank you for sharing the info.

I think this has a LOT to do with it
Tobacco Bonds May Be Dangerous to Your State's Financial Health
They borrowed all that $$$, spent it, and now that the revenue from the cigarette tax is dropping, they are in trouble, when it comes to paying it back . ... like a lot of states.
Also, note on the chart how much of that $$$ they actually spent on "Smoking Prevention"
They need to keep you on the cigs, or find another way to get the tax $$$. ...wa laa ...vaping !!

David, that was a fantastic letter! And it looks like you got an actual reply and not one of those "form" replies that I always seem to get. Good job!

Slots, yes that video is well done. While we're busy listing all the reasons vaping should be supported the bottom line really is the revenue. It's always all about the $$$. Meanwhile they're legalizing the other stuff and it's causing all kinds of havoc in states that allow it, like Colorado. And it turns out the state isn't getting all the tax money they thought they'd get. Guess they'll just end up taxing it more and the underground will just gear up again just like they used to.
 

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David, that was a fantastic letter! And it looks like you got an actual reply and not one of those "form" replies that I always seem to get. Good job!

Slots, yes that video is well done. While we're busy listing all the reasons vaping should be supported the bottom line really is the revenue. It's always all about the $$$. Meanwhile they're legalizing the other stuff and it's causing all kinds of havoc in states that allow it, like Colorado. And it turns out the state isn't getting all the tax money they thought they'd get. Guess they'll just end up taxing it more and the underground will just gear up again just like they used to.

Jup! I've seen reports, that because of the taxes and high prices in the legal places, the non legal ones are charging more too and getting it, so instead of putting them out of business, they're getting even more money
 

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I have ordered a Kanger SubTank Plus and I'm really looking foward to it. I found this (less than 2 hr). video on rebuilding OCC coils and I think I can handle it.
Kanger Subtank OCC Build – RiPTrippers

His way may work for some but it didn't for me.
I cut the cotton about 2mm from the outside of the coil head then gently poke them back in the holes.
3mm diameter coil. About 12-15mm wide wick. Its tight going through the holes and the coil.
Helps if the coil is straight and when your done should be a slight bulge of cotton from the ends of the coil to the inside edge of the coil head.
Coil should be as wide as the opening in the top of the coil head , it can be wider my current one is but don't want it to touch the inside of the coil head.
5.5 wraps 3mm slightly spaced has been good for me. Though at least as wide as the top opening.
 

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I just got to PIF!
The guy who greens up my lawn cam by today because I just had some sod put in. He asked what I was vaping, and I told him. He said that he had to buy cigarettes because he ran out of juice. So I gave him a 30 ml bottle of my Blue Drake from MBV to tide him over until he gets more for himself.
Always a good feeling when you can help someone. I didn't even know he vapes.
 

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He's alive! Nice to see you're up and around, Mike.

Shoot! I was finally able to eat a bit of food this morning and keep it down. Haven't really eaten anything since Saturday dinner time. Slowly, step by step, I'm coming back.

I just got to PIF!
The guy who greens up my lawn cam by today because I just had some sod put in. He asked what I was vaping, and I told him. He said that he had to buy cigarettes because he ran out of juice. So I gave him a 30 ml bottle of my Blue Drake from MBV to tide him over until he gets more for himself.
Always a good feeling when you can help someone. I didn't even know he vapes.

Nice Ken!
 

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WA and CA seem to be in the forefront on efforts to stamp out vaping. They seem to think by doing this they will raise millions of dollars. They can't even stop people from smoking cigarettes bought in other states to avoid paying $10 a pack. In WA the bills are completely sponsored by Democrats. I don't understand the reasoning all they are going to do is cause us all to become criminals to vape the way we like. Next thing the jails will be filled with illegal vapers. It is just crazy and stupid.
 
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