Older Folks and Vaping Front Porch - Part Three

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Might have to order some for flavoring measuring and the like.
But the medicine one can't be beat for dispensing moderate volumes of PG/VG.

If the stopper would just fit my 43 oz bottles of VG... hmm maybe a hole in the lid of the 43 oz bottle?
 

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In case I had not shown this here before...
it is a medicine syringe I got at Krogers for ~ 1.50. It came with the stopper thingy and is great for dispensing PG/VG. the bottle in the pic is a 125 ml bottle I use to mix my PG/vg in, I have a few of them I use for this. to dispense just invert the entire assembly and fill syringe, put upright and remove syringe and squirt in bottle being filled. I leave it like in the pic when not in use. It is sealed well and keeps everything clean. the stopper thingy has a flip lid and is stepped to fit several different sized openings.

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Where in the store did you find it? What was it next to?
 

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Oh my goodness ... the poor folks in Arkansas ... are we next?

Online Retail Sales Prohibited in Arkansas Effective Today
Arkansas ACT 1235 (SB978)


Arkansas ACT 1235 (SB978) is officially in full effect as of today, July 21, 2015. The bill classifies vapor products as tobacco products thereby inherently prohibits any online retail or direct online B2C sales of any "vapor product, alternative nicotine product or e-liquid product" to occur within the Arkansas state line. In addition to disallowing online retail sales relating to any vaping product, all brick & mortar retail locations within Arkansas must now obtain licenses in order to sell vaping products within the state.
How do they regulate online sales? Search your packages before they deliver them. Ban delivery from certain addresses. I have always been curious how that would work. If I order from Fasttech or any other online vendor the post office must deliver it, that's the law as far as I know, unless it's true contraband such as illegal drugs etc. then only with a warrant and in conjunction with law enforcement. I just don't see what good a law such as this would do to prevent incoming vaping materials. Now on the other hand, outgoing sales are probably a different question. I guess they could look for websites that have IPs in the state and bust them after making an online purchase like they would a drug dealer but, would that stand up in court. If it's legal in the other 49 states that is. I agree that we are heading down a slippery slope and watching our rights just fly right out the window. The solution is on us however. Get involved with advocacy, stay in touch with your legislative representative and most importantly, VOTE! if we don't start standing up in numbers not just one person here and there we will watch something we truly enjoy and that's definitely harm reducing vanish due to ignorance on the part of legislative representatives that are beholding to large companies. I will now climp back off that soapbox. We now return you to your regularly scheduled programming! :)
 

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Just more proof they have no idea what they're talking about. Vape products fall under both those categories by the wording, so I see more debate about "the spirit of what was intended"
I see a buttload of lawsuits if they can be financed. That's the big problem. Eventually you could get this in front of a judge who would throw it out on numerous grounds but, you gotta have the fundage to do it and I doubt many ma and pa stores have that kind of money. The states are going to fool around passing this or that bill and law and get beat down by judges. What truly worries me is the U.S. government. One U.S. Law written well and the vaping community is screwed. Or the FDA can screw us and never even have to have a law passed (how they get away with that crap just amazes me). That's why I have 3 liters of nicotine (100 mg/ml) in the freezer. MFS has a liter of 400 mg/ml nic on sale for $200 (100mg/ml liters are still $50). Couple of those and even the most high nic vapor should be set for life. Just make sure you get gloves and goggles to handle it. I don't think you really need an vapor mask but, it probably wouldn't hurt.
 

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I say again, the worst thing that ever occurred with vaping is when they got called "electronic cigarettes." That says "TOBACCO" to any regulator and if we had called it "personal vaporizer" or some such I really don't think we would be having these problems.
 

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In case I had not shown this here before...
it is a medicine syringe I got at Krogers for ~ 1.50. It came with the stopper thingy and is great for dispensing PG/VG. the bottle in the pic is a 125 ml bottle I use to mix my PG/vg in, I have a few of them I use for this. to dispense just invert the entire assembly and fill syringe, put upright and remove syringe and squirt in bottle being filled. I leave it like in the pic when not in use. It is sealed well and keeps everything clean. the stopper thingy has a flip lid and is stepped to fit several different sized openings.

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I'm going to go get me one of those tomorrow. Where are they in the store please?
 

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How do they regulate online sales? Search your packages before they deliver them. Ban delivery from certain addresses. I have always been curious how that would work. If I order from Fasttech or any other online vendor the post office must deliver it, that's the law as far as I know, unless it's true contraband such as illegal drugs etc. then only with a warrant and in conjunction with law enforcement. I just don't see what good a law such as this would do to prevent incoming vaping materials. Now on the other hand, outgoing sales are probably a different question. I guess they could look for websites that have IPs in the state and bust them after making an online purchase like they would a drug dealer but, would that stand up in court. If it's legal in the other 49 states that is. I agree that we are heading down a slippery slope and watching our rights just fly right out the window. The solution is on us however. Get involved with advocacy, stay in touch with your legislative representative and most importantly, VOTE! if we don't start standing up in numbers not just one person here and there we will watch something we truly enjoy and that's definitely harm reducing vanish due to ignorance on the part of legislative representatives that are beholding to large companies. I will now climp back off that soapbox. We now return you to your regularly scheduled programming! :)
This thread talks a lot more about the nuts and bolts of the law Arkansas ACT 1235 (SB978) Shuts Down Online Sales | Page 5 | E-Cigarette Forum

Alabama is next up for a 25 cent per ml tax on nic liquid during a special session.
 

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I say again, the worst thing that ever occurred with vaping is when they got called "electronic cigarettes." That says "TOBACCO" to any regulator and if we had called it "personal vaporizer" or some such I really don't think we would be having these problems.

Unfortunately, and verified by your new avatar, the livestock is already out of the barn... :facepalm:
 

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I say again, the worst thing that ever occurred with vaping is when they got called "electronic cigarettes." That says "TOBACCO" to any regulator and if we had called it "personal vaporizer" or some such I really don't think we would be having these problems.
yabutt the problem is, if they didn't call it an EC... no one would have paid attention and they never would have caught on. We vaperz probably woodn't eggzist! Personal vaporizer sounds more like something medical. So... catch 22 for the marketing companies.
 
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