Anyone wondering what canadian vendors sell original joyetech products can find them on the joyetech site. I am mentioning this because some members are having a difficult time with their PVs(Egos in perticular) and may think that they are real Joyetechs. In no way am I saying that Joyetechs are fault free. And no intent is against any vendor that doesn't sell joyetech as all canadian vendors are as good as gold to me. Just some of the members need to know that clones do not have as good a quality as Joyetech. IMHO. They are more pricey and the others(clones) give those on a limited cost venture the options of affordability.
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at joyetech dot com - you'll see the list of distributors :
Joyetech brand offline electronic cigarette shops
as well as 1 partner - HappyVaper
Joyetech brand offline electronic cigarette shops
as well as 1 partner - HappyVaper
Mike they show all worldwide sellers too. Yes Happy was missed on there. He sells other brands too tho.
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My bad, Bill. I misread the thread & thought you were asking for a list. I agree, with you 100%. There have been issues with the eGo-C & non Joyetech batteries. Also, the eGo Booster does not work with most non joyetech batteries. I have always been a believer where possible, stick to the original & avoid the knock-offs. The one time, I cheapened out - it came back to bite me in the !@#$.
2 week old ego lcd with a booster - worked for 2 mins - fried the electronics in the battery. The battery is now in my recycle battery box with dead AA's. Lesson learned.
Well Bill, funny enough the non ego lcd was the backup for my 2 joys. The 2 joys have been 100%, so far & I've pushed them hard with the booster. For the average user, who would never buy a booster, I don't knock the lcd. I just have less expectations for the knock offs. There is a difference between them. Be aware. I'd wish that more, vendors invest with Joyetech.
If I am not mistaken in order to be a certified Joytech whatever, the only product you are allowed to sell is JoyTech. The latter of course has POed more than one person/vendor.
Happy Vaper is a registered partner. He carrys some Joy & non Joy & maybe HV branded Joy? Not sure of the all the details, but the problem with Joyetech maybe all the minimum order requirements like 500 units, is sometimes hard for the smaller company to start with. The nice thing about Joyetech is they stand behind their batterys & offer a 1 year warranty. I'd like to see vendors offer the same with their non-joy EGO's.
We need to be more clear about what's a fake or a ripoff. An Ego LCD, for example, is neither. It never says anywhere that it is a Joyetech product.
The problem is that the "Ego" has become a type of ecig, and is not synonymous with the brand.
If a vendor is knowingly selling non-joye Egos and calling them a joye product, then they are practically begging for bad press. I think the vast majority are genuine when they say they are. I don't believe this widespread conspiracy that counterfeit joyetechs are as prolific as people claim. Just don't expect anything named an Ego to be made by Joye. Look for the actual word "Joyetech" or "Joye" in the item description and you will almost always be getting the real thing, imo.
The problem is that the "Ego" has become a type of ecig, and is not synonymous with the brand.
If a vendor is knowingly selling non-joye Egos and calling them a joye product, then they are practically begging for bad press. I think the vast majority are genuine when they say they are. I don't believe this widespread conspiracy that counterfeit joyetechs are as prolific as people claim. Just don't expect anything named an Ego to be made by Joye. Look for the actual word "Joyetech" or "Joye" in the item description and you will almost always be getting the real thing, imo.
The best way to know if its joyetech eGo or not is pretty simple.
A)Usually the supplier will ouright say its a genuine joyetech eGo
B) they will not be selling any competing items to it ( meaning if they carry joyetech eGos they will not be having any smoktech or eGos from any other company, they still can have 808s and other stuff thou)
C) Joyetech eGos meters around 3.4v regulated
D) not all vendors of joyetech products are listed on the list, some do get them from heavens gifts or Health Cabin at wholesale in lower quantities then directly from joyetech
A)Usually the supplier will ouright say its a genuine joyetech eGo
B) they will not be selling any competing items to it ( meaning if they carry joyetech eGos they will not be having any smoktech or eGos from any other company, they still can have 808s and other stuff thou)
C) Joyetech eGos meters around 3.4v regulated
D) not all vendors of joyetech products are listed on the list, some do get them from heavens gifts or Health Cabin at wholesale in lower quantities then directly from joyetech
I heard these words from a vendor.
If you want to sell Joyetech products, you are not allowed to sell other products that resemble or are similar to Joyetech PV's.
So from my understanding if you wish to sell Joyetech eGo batteries, you cannot carry something like the SmokTek 808-threaded eGo, less expensive copies, and so on...
I may be wrong, but that is how i interpreted it. I guess it's like that to avoid any confusion between brands.
Hope that I was of help to this discussion.
^^ what he said ^^
This type of discussion is far more productive in the suppliers forum than here. Here suppliers cannot openly answer the questions raised.
You are correct - and this discussion is actually a very difficult one to have for vendors and vapers alike - as we have very little real internal information on what goes on with the designers, the factories, with internal designs, with who's copying who and what and when.
Joyetech and Janty released the first eGos. Of that there is little doubt. Within days though - nearly every manufacturer had a version of the "eGo" available. Whether that was part of a technology race, sharing or stealing secret designs or creating knocks offs - well - probably a bit of all combined and no way to verify any of it.
We all saw the tech race between microsoft and apple - but in a different context - in a country where legalities prevent direct copying and ironclad non-disclosure agreements prevent secretly sharing information. So while both companies created similar looking devices, that accomplished similar things - the differences were also astounding.
With the eGo most manus called their version "eGo" regardless of whether it was a copy or original design with the same body type and connectors. It's still true today that the internals of different PV's named "eGo" can be vastly different from one another.
EX: one of the first to the market was a 5V, non pwm - sharing only the body style and connector of the eGo. Everything under the hood was different. Two others released within months of that were blatent knock offs - while another had quite original internals but wasn't well made and didn't last.
Now though - there are dozens of PV's calling themselves "eGo" that bear no relationship to the original on the inside - and often have structural differences on the exterior as well.
For the Booster issue mentioned earlier - this unit requires a specific internal configuration - found in the Joyetech eGo and verified in only a small handful of others.
My wish list - we'll see more original names for new PV's and less confusion.
Could a Mod move this to a proper forum so vendors may post their thoughts. TY and regards.
There isn't a place for "an open call" for Suppliers.
Suppliers can only discuss their products in their own sales threads & forums.
Suppliers can only discuss their products in their own sales threads & forums.
I don't even know the point of these types of threads. This is not Apple vs IBM in the 70s. This is nothing more than flashlight vs flashlight. It's a very basic device that not a few could assemble easily. It doesn't require hiring a Intel engineer to come up with voltage regulation and such. In short, it's not rocket science to duplicate such basic devices. A clone would just be as reliable. The oft-repeated remark, "you get what you pay for" doesn't even apply. Some "clones" are even more expensive. I spent 92 bucks for a mere 650mah Ego. I didn't care if it's Joyetech or not.
You guys should at least come up with a YT video and demonstrate the technical differences between the two other than the other one has a logo. So far, I haven't seen one.
You guys should at least come up with a YT video and demonstrate the technical differences between the two other than the other one has a logo. So far, I haven't seen one.
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You haven't read all the complaints of Ego users here then. Quite a few, but most don't reveal where or what they purchased. I've read more Ego problems with clones than Joyetechs. 1100 batts, 900 batts, attys that weren't made by joyetech, etc. and they aren't all built the same way. I believe Joyetech only sells Ego Ts with the 650mah batt or the 1000mah batt. If I'm incorrect, somebody plz chime in. Some are modified in a cheaper design. I actually paid $105 for my 1000mah Ego T back in August/11. I didn't mind because it was from a reputable vendor(NFN) here in Canada. I still use it as an ADV and all the parts still work 100%.
And thank you classwife for that info.
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