PayPal Stopping Payment Processing for Chinese Vape Product Vendors

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    Looks like PP no longer a option for FT. View attachment 907063

    Oh I see now. SKU 9725902 is a pack of Aspire coils. You can't buy Aspire products from FT using Paypal. Aspire blocks certain merchants on Paypal from using Paypal to sell their stuff. You have to buy a gift certificate, then buy the Aspire products using the gift certificate funds.

    If you look about half way down that page on the right, you'll see the following notice...

    Important information and restrictions:
    • This item can only be purchased via Bitcoin (XBT) or gift certificates (store credits).
    • Bitcoin is secure and popular. First time using Bitcoin? Click here to get started
     

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    Oh I see now. SKU 9725902 is a pack of Aspire coils. You can't buy Aspire products from FT using Paypal. Aspire blocks certain merchants on Paypal from using Paypal to sell their stuff. You have to buy a gift certificate, then buy the Aspire products using the gift certificate funds.

    If you look about half way down that page on the right, you'll see the following notice...

    Important information and restrictions:
    • This item can only be purchased via Bitcoin (XBT) or gift certificates (store credits).
    • Bitcoin is secure and popular. First time using Bitcoin? Click here to get started

    I didn't know that.
     

    ShowMeTwice

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    FT listed options...

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    As for cryptocurrencies...
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    UncLeJunkLe

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    I just attempted checkout with a Smoant Taggerz mod and got no "Paypal Unavailable" warning and transaction was forwarded to Paypal as normal.

    I have got that warning so far when I added an aspire product, which is par for the coarse at FT since about prolly 2016.
     

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    Oh I see now. SKU 9725902 is a pack of Aspire coils. You can't buy Aspire products from FT using Paypal. Aspire blocks certain merchants on Paypal from using Paypal to sell their stuff. You have to buy a gift certificate, then buy the Aspire products using the gift certificate funds.

    If you look about half way down that page on the right, you'll see the following notice...

    Important information and restrictions:
    • This item can only be purchased via Bitcoin (XBT) or gift certificates (store credits).
    • Bitcoin is secure and popular. First time using Bitcoin? Click here to get started

    That's Right...

    I Vaguely Remember something about PP not working with some Aspire Products on FT.
     

    UncLeJunkLe

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    True, but if the FDA is sending warning letters to giants like Go Daddy and PP, won't they do the same for cc companies? Can they do it? Will they comply?


    CC copmanies are allowed to collect paypment for vape prodduct because vape is not, as a category, illegal. The problem now is that some vape is illegal (no PMTA or rejected) and some vape is not (PMTA pending/approved).

    So credit card processors would have to spend a lot of money making a database of UPCs and such so that only FDA approved UPCs can be processed. This is simplified, it would be a lot more laborious than that. As such, the FDA cannot really urge CC processors to only ban transactions for certain UPCs.

    The only thing that can happen is certain big processors can, if they want, decide to drop vape transactions altogether. But since it is not illegal, the other processors will just pick up the new business. One such processor did that a couple years ago. Nothing to do with the government, they just decided to drop vape merchants. I wish I could remember who that was, but I remember they were a rather large player in the merchant processing world.

    Vape is already categorized as "high Risk" so that avenue has already been visited years ago. Vape shops have to pay more now, but at least they can take your credit card. Just like with Firearms sales and other high risk categories.

    I personally don't see non-3rd party processors (like Paypal) dropping vape en masse. There's money to be made there.
     

    zoiDman

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    This Stinks!! We all wondered if this would possibly happen, but so soon?! Man, this is a heavy blow.

    I just Feel Sad for the Majority of Vaper's who Don't Know what is Going On. Or what Might be Coming.

    At least Most of Us here on the ECF have had some Warning. And a Chance to Stock Up before things start to go Pear Shaped.
     

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    If you look about half way down that page on the right, you'll see the following notice...

    Important information and restrictions:
    • This item can only be purchased via Bitcoin (XBT) or gift certificates (store credits).
    • Bitcoin is secure and popular. First time using Bitcoin? Click here to get started

    I so don't want to go that route. I don't know how, I don't want to, period. Geeze...
     

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    True, but if the FDA is sending warning letters to giants like Go Daddy and PP, won't they do the same for cc companies? Can they do it? Will they comply?
    If they go that far then I would just use Bitcoin. My brother uses them all the time without issue.

    There will always be ways around the FDA, banks and cc companies. None of those know how to deal with the current world of crypocurrencies. Some US banks like JP Morgan's crypto.

    Not sure what provider hosts FT but them being a Chinese company they are likely hosted by an in-country provider.
     
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