Pitbull Beta Test Feedback Thread

[basementcat]

PLEEEESE! Don't start that trend. lol I can't wait to stop counting puffs. It puts me into a flashback/work mode from when I used to be a DVD tester. If everyone starts comparing vapes, I may have to give up the forum. lol (nah, not really)

I wouldn't be able to do a puff count on my riva. I sometimes go two and a half days between charging. Don't mind doing for this test though.

 

[lorikay13]

It's all good people....you have already provided ample information to help us QC this product. Bill does not have time to post like I do....but I know that he reads each and every one of your posts. And he has taken them to heart....and is making the changes he feels are needed to make the Pitbull an A1 product.

I sincerely thank you all for your time....and I am planning a nice reward for you. Not sure what it will be yet...maybe a contest.....maybe a discount....I need to talk to Bill about it. But stick with us here.....you all deserve something for your time. If anyone understands how much your time is worth it is me!!!

So keep the info coming....it is seriously valuable to us. Thank you one and all for your efforts.

No....the test is NOT over....I just wanted to make sure you all know how much we appreciate what you are doing for us.

 

[basementcat]

Well we hope you know how much we appreciate what you've done for us as well LK.

 

[ImYourSalt]

still catching upp... but i wanted to update before i forget....

no comment.
you are afterall.....the Serial Carto Killer...along with your accomplis....that little tweety bird. Sorry folks....there is just no possible way I could resist commenting on this.........

seriuosly now... that "burnt" taste/smell is NOT a result of actual burning...as in combustion.....I expect Scottbee will chime in on this issue eventually.....anyway...it is a result of glazing of the juice on the wicking coil at the bottom of the carto. What causes this?
#1 letting the carto go dry......(this is actually how our "normal" customers know when to throw away the carto and put on a fresh one)
#2 letting the carto go dry
#3 freighttrain vaping.....rather the carto is dry or wet......overheating them will glaze the juice.....honestly...once this happens you need to pitch the carto.....unless you happen to have a bottle of PGA around....then you can try rinsing it out with that.....but no promises....

Our cartos are good...really good....but there is no such thing as a perfect carto. The closest thing to a perfect carto......is an atomizer. At least here at ECF no one is willing to pay the price it would cost to produce a cartomiozer that lasted as long as an atomizer.

im definitely guilty on charge #3. that's my issue. my coartos dont neccesarily burn... but i dont think the wick can keep the coil wet, with my demanding vaping style. i think i've nothiced this is more prone to happen with my DK 555 than with other juices. or maybe the other juices just mask that taste better???

anyway. im sure its not the battery. but i have put the PB down. the cartos just dont have enough oomph for me. the first one wont screw on. the second was par for the course but nothing to write home about. the third, i removed the filler, rinsed, and refilled with 555. still tastes the same as prefill flavor. still poor TH and decent vapor, at best.

dont wann tear open my last 2 cartos just yet. i need to make the 5pack last a little longer than 3 days!m most likely gonna set it aside until i can afford some cartos from another vendor so i can compare.

anyway, thats the scoop. i'll keep reading and catch up soon.

 

[LowThudd]

159 puffs from the last charge. Last ten puffs were alittle weak.

 

[Katya]

Tweety bird? Reporting for duty. Been "away from my desk" for awhile.

I made an interesting discovery. There seems to be something wrong with a couple of cartomizers I got with my PB. I tried two of the medium strength tobacco flavor and one menthol. The medium tobacco had a very hard draw, the menthol was better, albeit mildly overfilled, juice in my mouth, had to blow it out. Unfortunately, the good menthol cartomizer died after a few hours (and two top offs). This has never happened to me before. It may just be a minor QC issue. It's completely dead. The battery blinks when I try to puff on it, but no vapor and no flavor get released. The medium flavor ones perform rather poorly; no, they don't burn, but they are very dull.

But I found some old SS cartos I had stashed away--high flavor--and they are working great. And, of course, the PB works much better with them. It has more oomph, more vapor, almost as good as my old Hendus. This is very strange.

So I put my PB on a charger again, this time after approximately 120 puffs, not because it was discharged but because the draw was becoming increasingly more difficult. I agree with Lorikay about the length of the batteries and their performance. I had similar experience with kr808 XL batteries--I liked them less than the regular size ones despite their longer life. They just didn't deliver the same amount of power as the shorter ones and the draw on them was harder.

So, I'm now going to test if the PB will get any stronger after the third charge/discharge cycle, and test another menthol and one more medium flavor carto. But I'm beginning to suspect that some testers who find the draw on the PB lacking may be actually experiencing carto problems.

And, for the record, my two dying Hendus are still more responsive and stronger than the PB. Is there a break-in time on those? I don't remember if I had issues with the Hendus being weak at the beginning. It was a long time ago.

 

[5cardstud]

I got 175 puffs on this charge and the beat goes on. I really started liking the flavor of these cartos. At first I wasn't to sure but I vaped a different flavor while waiting for a charge and when I started again with the Pitbull I could tell allot better and it's pretty good. I got the full flavor High. One thing you should think of doing and it's probably already been mentioned is do the lettering in black so it can be seen better. I certainly wished it came in a manual option also. Oh and the carto going on hard hasn't happened since that first time so there is probably burrs left on the threads that get straightened out after the first carto installation.

 

[basementcat]

Just finished recharging. 2 hours 38 minutes.

 

[RedDeath5]

i'll be taking the critter to work with me today...it'll be next to impossible to get an accurate puff count, but it'll give me a decent idea of battery life whilst chain vaping.

 

[lorikay13]

Katya.....the difference in the responsiveness is because of the extra length.....it is what it is. The switch is the same.....it's the fact that you have to move more air through it.....but I still want to get the answer to the question of rather the switch can wear out or not.....

no comment on the cartos....as promised.


oh.....we sent out 30 Pitbulls....I dont see 30 people here.....so I will be taking the time to send out an email to everyone reminding them about the beta test. If your already posting here just ignore it.....and when I do figure out what kind of reward to give it will only be for you folks that have taken the time to post. So I am thinking a contest.....looks like your chances of winning will be pretty high.


okay...I cant resist......it's not a QC problem if your topping off or refilling....get it? If it works out of the box then it does what it is intended to do. The only time I have had a carto stop working like that is from overfilling....it doesnt take much juice to get stuck down there in the threads to kill it.....I am talking about internally....inside that barrel of the carto....not on the outside of the threads....although eventually that may kill the battery.

 

[sooperdrave]

ok, im back.

recharge from a totally dead batt = 2 hours and 36 minutes. only a little longer than the hendu batt.
237 puffs from a fully charged batt. way more than i get from my hendu batt.
still REALLY like the longer cut off time. seems to be about 6 seconds. would like to see a 10 second cut off.
this batt would also be perfect with a 24mg carto. having said that, 16mg hits well with this batts longer cut off. the hendu cuts off before i get a full hit.
end of batt still glows orange and not "blood red".....whats with that LK? lol. the PB and the hendu are great looking batts!

 

[Ravens Rose]

Ok, so I ran the PB battery down to dead last night (which I normally would not do) but I wanted to see exactly how long it would take to fully recharge from a complete drain to full charge using the wall charger. It took 3 hours to become fully charged. I was trying it with the Hendu as well but I fell asleep... so I will have to retry that one again.

Now on to the puff count... will be back with that info later.. **EDIT** Ok.. The puff count on that charge was 165 give or take a few...

Anyways... I really like the direction that the PB battery is heading & look forward to seeing what else Bill has up his sleeve and the changes he is making.

 

[lorikay13]

Other than the thread issue what changes would you want??? Just wondering......

 

[Ravens Rose]

lol.. um.. change the CZ to glow more of a red rather than orange... & other colors of the batteries/CZ's ... otherwise I have no complaints ... I really like the PB

I didn't really have a problem with the threads. It was only one carto that was tighter to get on but not as difficult like the one I had discussed with the Pink battery and that was only with one carto too...

 

[lorikay13]

your not actually suggesting a pink PB?????? As in a pink battery with the Pitbull engraved on it? I feel confident in saying....that will never happen. LOL! However I see Bill reading through the thread.....so I will let him comment on that.....

as for the color of the LED....I also feel confident in saying that again...it is what it is....but who knows...I could be wrong about that too.....personally I'm still hoping for blood red on a Jet.

 

[Ravens Rose]

ROTF..... No.. I am not suggesting a Pink PB!!!! LOL.... haha.. now that would be funny!

No more like... same type of battery style... No Pitbull.. other colors & CZ's .... lol... obviously they would have to be called something else!

 

[spacekitty]

Just finished the charge done with the wall adapter and a fresh carto, and it came in at about 175 this time... I was just taking my normal size puffs at about 3 sec. and not trying to get clouds of vapor... just enjoying it for what it is!!

At 165 I figured it was nearing the end, so I took a 5 long draws, and the cut-off was still at about 5-6 sec. but the carto was slowing down... the next 5 were kinda iffy and they died simultaneously on 176!!

I resisted the urge to top off the carto with SmokeStik's regular customers in mind... Pushing them both to see if one carto could last through the entire life of the charge on the batt... and it was almost a dead heat IMHO. But that was only one test and it would be interesting to see what other people would come up with... <hint hint>

I have seen reports from other people getting over 200+ puffs on a charge and wonder if I am doing something wrong?? But I guess everyone has there own style, and I am still in a learning curve... Ha!!

My little puppy is back on the charger now and I've got some friends on Facebook, who are interested in e-cigs and have been following my progress, so I need to get them all caught up before they think I've vaporized!! LOL!!

BBL...

 

[lorikay13]

yeah....I knew that....it's just the thought of as pink PB was pretty amusing.....maybe Axil Rose would like one?

anyway......I have edited the very first post of this thread so that it is the major topics and answers all in one place. If there is something anyone thinks should be there feel free to let me know and I will add it. I will continue to update that post as new info is gathered, So you can just go to the first post to get the highlights.....

 

[lorikay13]

yeah....I knew that....it's just the thought of as pink PB was pretty amusing.....maybe Axil Rose would like one?

anyway......I have edited the very first post of this thread so that it is the major topics and answers all in one place. If there is something anyone thinks should be there feel free to let me know and I will add it. I will continue to update that post as new info is gathered, So you can just go to the first post to get the highlights.....

 

[billster88]

Hey Guys....want to chime in here for a sec on a few issues....1. the battery CZ WILL be BLOOD red....I assure you of that...from the pics you saw and I saw...they did look red...but I can see a tinge of orange in there...so that would explain the orange color people are noticing...won't be happening in the production model...that I assure you...(this is why we make beta's of new things we make...don't want to product thousands of these and find out they are orange!!!) ....I find it kind of accurate in our calculations that your for the most part getting 150+ puffs...that's what your supposed to be getting...give or take a few...now why some people are in the high 100's ...that would be simple...a primer puff...they use the same amount of energy to heat up the Carto as a regular puff....so....when counting...keep that in mind...1 primer puff + 1 puff=2 puffs(technically) that's what physics tells us....it's kind of like revving your engine before putting it in 1st gear and dropping the clutch...you still wasted some gas....even though the transmission was not engaged...

I also want to thank all of you for taking the time to report back your findings to us...it really is helpful...but let me ask all of you this one question.. Would you all be happy if you had paid for the PitBull in its present form?...no changes being made to the way it looks or works?....that is something I would like to know...thanks again...