The bat has to be open for the small vacuum switch to work. Only manual bats are sealed. SS customer base is mainly those that are seeking an analog like experience as thudd said before.
Pitbull Beta Test Feedback Thread
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The bat has to be open for the small vacuum switch to work. Only manual bats are sealed. SS customer base is mainly those that are seeking an analog like experience as thudd said before.
Sorry so late. Today I tried to keep track of puffs and came up in the 150's give or take. The draw seems to be getting a little too hard but I don't know if that is the carto or maybe the PB isn't completely charged. I have a hard time telling with the charger. I myself still prefer a harder draw compared to feeling like I am sucking on air but this is a little too hard. Vapor seems to be weaker as well.
I tried a new carto and it was still hard to screw into the PB. I think someone had mentioned whistling from the carto. The first one did not do that but this second one does.
I am finding there are times an auto comes in handy.
It seems like all I am doing is tearing it down but all in all, so far I think with a few adjustments, this will be a very nice e-cig to own. I don't even mind the orange but I can see where a deep red would be cool. Or an frosty ice blue.
Oh, Bill had asked if we would buy one but I have to say I would be leery because of the threads.
I tried a new carto and it was still hard to screw into the PB. I think someone had mentioned whistling from the carto. The first one did not do that but this second one does.
I am finding there are times an auto comes in handy.
It seems like all I am doing is tearing it down but all in all, so far I think with a few adjustments, this will be a very nice e-cig to own. I don't even mind the orange but I can see where a deep red would be cool. Or an frosty ice blue.
Oh, Bill had asked if we would buy one but I have to say I would be leery because of the threads.
A closed battery or sealed battery has no hole in the connector. This is used with a lot of manual batteries as you use a button to activate rather than suction and a vacuum switch. Sealed bats ate great for dripping ir those new to vaping who might otherwise flood and destroy their battery.
Yea, I kinda wish I had chose menthol instead of tobacco. If I were moving right from Cigarettes to the e-cig, it might have been fine. But being spoiled from so many great flavors I have carted, cartoed dripped etc...I don'y like the tobacco flavor as much as a current cig smoker would. I honestly unserstand the direction of SS w/ their flavor choice, but in order to KEEP customers, it might be a good idea to have more selection. Menthol is an easy choice in an e-cig. It is fairly uniformed.
I understand what you're saying about the limit of flavors- Bill addressed this in his Why We Do What We Do Thread, the GOOD thing is these cartos are great for refilling many, many times so I continue to purchase them in menthol and reuse.
Explains the opened batteries. Did not know that about automatic batteries, thank you.
No problem. I'm mildly (my wife would say majorly) obsessed with how and why things work. So naturally now that I'm vaping I'm turning into a PV encyclopedia. Lol.
OK, Now that we have the Battery done with, what about Ohm's, LT your up, your thoughts and if the rest could kick in here a bit I would like to here it
The ss cartos are 3.3 ohm. Most standard 510 cartos are 2.5-3.0 ohm. This is why the ss cartos are less prone to burning. LR attys (low resistance) are around 1.7-2.0 ohms hence why on a 3.7 volt the act similar to a 5v. Higher ohms=higher resistance=less atty heat. Were really only supposed to be discussing the bat though as were beta testing that not the cartos.
Honestly, I am more than happey at where it's at. I am not a big TH fan, however, I will experiment w/ 2.5 and 3.0 as they are redily availible to me throygh suppliers I already buy from. I am curious as to how the lower ohms work on this badboy.
what he said........
$15 Pink and Gold batteries are up at the ecf page........24hr DOA policy/life time warranty with $50 every 6 week purchase of cartos or cartridges. I think this is a fantastic deal.....both these batteries have the CZ jewel in them and are the same internals as our other batteries. This is a special sale just for ECF....specifically for you beta testers that need another SS battery. CZ on the pink battery glows white....CZ on the Gold battery is clear as well but glows orange.
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Well if I remember right Scott said these PBS are putting out 3.4v under load compared to the standard 3.1 (under load). I'm guessing at 3 ohm or lower it will make a noticeable difference. Most people would think .3v wouldn't make much of a difference but I'm willing to bet it does.
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I'm just going to say this as a final point here. I have been running a carto with 2.5 Ohm on my Pitbull & SS with a special adapter I have, they are the BOMB with this set up.! all done
Okay I used my Pitbull all day today while helping a friend of mine with some laboring or should I say tasks, anyway it was in and out of my pocket all day long. My keys and other objects also were in and out and the Pitbull worked flawlessly, never misfiring or going off in my pocket one time. The battery lasted me also. This is proving to be a tough little puppy. I am impressed.
I bet if I removed the paper on one of these cartos this would look pretty good as a 100% stainless steel PV.
I did and it does. You should offer the cartos in a stainless steel option on the colors. It makes the Pitbull look outstanding.
I bet if I removed the paper on one of these cartos this would look pretty good as a 100% stainless steel PV.
I did and it does. You should offer the cartos in a stainless steel option on the colors. It makes the Pitbull look outstanding.
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Today's results. 156 puffs first charge of the day. 162 puffs second charge of the day. 2 hours 43 minutes first charge. 2 hours 38 minutes second charge. Still going strong. Dropped it from waist height pulling it out of my pocket (dunno how high but I'm 6ft4 so a considerable drop) on a tile floor and no ill effects. Don't recommend it though, just a clumsy accident on my part.
Hi everybody!!! I'm late to the party but I AM here However I can not spend the energy to read all this so I apologize for that.
First off I would like to deeply thank Bill, Lori and SmokeStik for letting me part of this beta test. I am thrilled and honored to be included, especially since out of the 4 dogs I own, the only one that is actually MY baby is a Pit-Bull named Majik. I was in love with the SS Pit-Bull before it even arrived
Second, for those that know me, know I have been extremely ill for the last month. Good news is that a few days ago my fever broke and I appear to be on the road to recovery. It will take another month or so to be back to normal, but at least I can sit up at the computer for more than 10 minutes right now.
I started using a Hendu a few months ago thanks to Lori and Yankee and have been in love with SS ever since. I have tried many, many types, brands and models of stock batteries and too many mods to mention. The one thing that I knew for sure was I absolutely hated auto batteries. When I got my first Hendu I was amazed. This is the ONLY auto battery I will ever use and it has been fantastic!! As for cartos, Lori and Katya can tell you I have spent months and months and a ton of money testing cartos. To date I have tried 22 different types, brands and models of cartos and SS is definitely the best carto out there, no doubt about it! My only complaint is that they don't come in blanks, but I have adjusted to that fact
Now to the meat of the matter, the PB!! I received my PB on Thursday and was not disappointed at all, it is everything I expected from Bill and SS. Absolutely stunning and the etching is subtle the way it should be. From the pics I expected the LED to be red and was quite pleased that it's orange!! Must be a witch thing because I love the purple of the Hendu and the orange of the PB
Both batteries are of superior quality to other stock batteries and more than worth the cost. I found my PB to work just like my Hendu but with longer run time. At first I thought the PB had a better hit, but turned out it was the carto, not the battery. I really can not tell the difference between the Hendu and the PB both with full charges and the same carto. Both of my Hendu batteries and my PB battery have a 6 second cut off time. I have never noticed it varying at all, it's always 6 seconds. Which brings me to my only complaint about SS batteries is that the cutoff time needs to be increased to 10 seconds. As for the threads I've only had one carto on it and have had no problems with the threads. I clean them everytime I refill the carto so I think that helps.
With being sick I am not vaping very heavily so it takes me a while to go through the battery life. I put the PB on the charger right out of the box just to make sure it was fully charged and it was. My first run I got 227 puffs and I took most of those to the cutoff. My second run I got 214. Started my third run a little bit ago but haven't been counting because I have been going back and forth between the PB and the Hendu comparing them. For a stock type battery the performance on both is exceptional.
That leaves me with some small details such as the charger. Up until now I have used a generic USB charger to charge my Hendu batteries. This is the first SS charger I've used. I use an AC powered USB hub with the chargers, never my computer. This has to be the wackiest charger I have used, no offense Bill With the PB it is red while it's charging and the LED is on. The closer it gets to being charged the more often it flashes to blue with it finally going to almost all blue. It NEVER gets all the way to blue and continues to flash to red. The LED flashes faintly also and never goes completely off. I left it on the charger while I slept for 5 hours and it was still doing the same thing when I got up. It tested 3.74 volts unloaded off the charger so I know it was charged. That is not the end of it, it gets more strange. With one of my Hendu batteries it is red when it is charging and the LED is on. When it is fully charged the light goes to a solid blue and the LED goes off. The second Hendu battery, the charger light is red when it's charging and the LED light is on, however when it's fully charged the light on the charger is still red, but the LED goes out. All three batteries are different on the same charger, but they all charge and that's the important thing.
Lastly the cartos... I can not say about how they are filled as I spin out the prefilled juice and fill with my own juice, again no offence Bill I take out the cap and all the inner rings and use a stainless steal T-tip on my SS cartos as it really gives a nice look to the Hendu and the PB. I do like the menthol but it's a bit harsh on my throat and I just can not take any tobacco flavors, but yours it tolerable to some extent. I refill the menthol cartos with a chocolate peppermint flavor 70/30 pg/vg so the menthol blends in. The tobacco ones I refill with a butterscotch coffee flavor 70/30 pg/vg and even after a few refills you can still taste the tobacco. Not to sound like a broken record, but blank cartos would be the ultimate! Normal cartos I use 4 or 5 days then I toss them out as soon as they start getting clogged, well unless I burn them first, which I do alot. I do not wash and reuse cartos at all. SS cartos are not the same, I've used a couple of them for as long as 26 days until they started getting clogged. I have never actually burned a SS carto on a SS battery and I've only ever burned 2 of them and that was on my mods. Keep them wet, but never overfill them and they are the Energizer Bunny of cartos. Once you overfill them, even if you blow out the excess they start to degrade and act clogged.
Sorry for the novella, but since this is the first time I've been on the forum in a month and not sure when I'll have this much energy again, I had to get it all in at once
Thank you again to Bill, Lori and SS and I will definitely be getting a second PB as soon as they are for sale
Happy Vaping!!!!!
P.S. A very special thank you and *hugs* to Katya with Lori's help for the get well card she sent me in the mail and to all those that had their names added to it. It was the best surprise and has helped me since getting it. I keep it sitting on the night stand next to the bed so I can look at it and draw positive energy from it to speed my recovery.
However I can not spend the energy to read all this so I apologize for that.First off I would like to deeply thank Bill, Lori and SmokeStik for letting me part of this beta test. I am thrilled and honored to be included, especially since out of the 4 dogs I own, the only one that is actually MY baby is a Pit-Bull named Majik. I was in love with the SS Pit-Bull before it even arrived
Second, for those that know me, know I have been extremely ill for the last month. Good news is that a few days ago my fever broke and I appear to be on the road to recovery. It will take another month or so to be back to normal, but at least I can sit up at the computer for more than 10 minutes right now.
I started using a Hendu a few months ago thanks to Lori and Yankee and have been in love with SS ever since. I have tried many, many types, brands and models of stock batteries and too many mods to mention. The one thing that I knew for sure was I absolutely hated auto batteries. When I got my first Hendu I was amazed. This is the ONLY auto battery I will ever use and it has been fantastic!! As for cartos, Lori and Katya can tell you I have spent months and months and a ton of money testing cartos. To date I have tried 22 different types, brands and models of cartos and SS is definitely the best carto out there, no doubt about it! My only complaint is that they don't come in blanks, but I have adjusted to that fact
Now to the meat of the matter, the PB!! I received my PB on Thursday and was not disappointed at all, it is everything I expected from Bill and SS. Absolutely stunning and the etching is subtle the way it should be. From the pics I expected the LED to be red and was quite pleased that it's orange!! Must be a witch thing because I love the purple of the Hendu and the orange of the PB
Both batteries are of superior quality to other stock batteries and more than worth the cost. I found my PB to work just like my Hendu but with longer run time. At first I thought the PB had a better hit, but turned out it was the carto, not the battery. I really can not tell the difference between the Hendu and the PB both with full charges and the same carto. Both of my Hendu batteries and my PB battery have a 6 second cut off time. I have never noticed it varying at all, it's always 6 seconds. Which brings me to my only complaint about SS batteries is that the cutoff time needs to be increased to 10 seconds. As for the threads I've only had one carto on it and have had no problems with the threads. I clean them everytime I refill the carto so I think that helps.With being sick I am not vaping very heavily so it takes me a while to go through the battery life. I put the PB on the charger right out of the box just to make sure it was fully charged and it was. My first run I got 227 puffs and I took most of those to the cutoff. My second run I got 214. Started my third run a little bit ago but haven't been counting because I have been going back and forth between the PB and the Hendu comparing them. For a stock type battery the performance on both is exceptional.
That leaves me with some small details such as the charger. Up until now I have used a generic USB charger to charge my Hendu batteries. This is the first SS charger I've used. I use an AC powered USB hub with the chargers, never my computer. This has to be the wackiest charger I have used, no offense Bill
With the PB it is red while it's charging and the LED is on. The closer it gets to being charged the more often it flashes to blue with it finally going to almost all blue. It NEVER gets all the way to blue and continues to flash to red. The LED flashes faintly also and never goes completely off. I left it on the charger while I slept for 5 hours and it was still doing the same thing when I got up. It tested 3.74 volts unloaded off the charger so I know it was charged. That is not the end of it, it gets more strange. With one of my Hendu batteries it is red when it is charging and the LED is on. When it is fully charged the light goes to a solid blue and the LED goes off. The second Hendu battery, the charger light is red when it's charging and the LED light is on, however when it's fully charged the light on the charger is still red, but the LED goes out. All three batteries are different on the same charger, but they all charge and that's the important thing.Lastly the cartos... I can not say about how they are filled as I spin out the prefilled juice and fill with my own juice, again no offence Bill
I take out the cap and all the inner rings and use a stainless steal T-tip on my SS cartos as it really gives a nice look to the Hendu and the PB. I do like the menthol but it's a bit harsh on my throat and I just can not take any tobacco flavors, but yours it tolerable to some extent. I refill the menthol cartos with a chocolate peppermint flavor 70/30 pg/vg so the menthol blends in. The tobacco ones I refill with a butterscotch coffee flavor 70/30 pg/vg and even after a few refills you can still taste the tobacco. Not to sound like a broken record, but blank cartos would be the ultimate! Normal cartos I use 4 or 5 days then I toss them out as soon as they start getting clogged, well unless I burn them first, which I do alot. I do not wash and reuse cartos at all. SS cartos are not the same, I've used a couple of them for as long as 26 days until they started getting clogged. I have never actually burned a SS carto on a SS battery and I've only ever burned 2 of them and that was on my mods. Keep them wet, but never overfill them and they are the Energizer Bunny of cartos. Once you overfill them, even if you blow out the excess they start to degrade and act clogged.Sorry for the novella, but since this is the first time I've been on the forum in a month and not sure when I'll have this much energy again, I had to get it all in at once
Thank you again to Bill, Lori and SS and I will definitely be getting a second PB as soon as they are for sale
Happy Vaping!!!!!
P.S. A very special thank you and *hugs* to Katya with Lori's help for the get well card she sent me in the mail and to all those that had their names added to it. It was the best surprise and has helped me since getting it. I keep it sitting on the night stand next to the bed so I can look at it and draw positive energy from it to speed my recovery.
I don't want to disagree w/ you. But I have read as much of his writings as I can, and I understand the v factor. My point was I like the way it is. It is all subjective, but having experienced 510s in LR, HR, and RR as well as 401s as well as eGos, I like the ss.
Okay I used my Pitbull all day today while helping a friend of mine with some laboring or should I say tasks, anyway it was in and out of my pocket all day long. My keys and other objects also were in and out and the Pitbull worked flawlessly, never misfiring or going off in my pocket one time. The battery lasted me also. This is proving to be a tough little puppy. I am impressed.
I bet if I removed the paper on one of these cartos this would look pretty good as a 100% stainless steel PV.
The Hendu cartos are SS.
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