Pitbull Beta Test Feedback Thread

[lorikay13]

My testing has come to a halt for now. Off subject but my wife was rushed to the er because she fainted and vomited. Day 2 of all this and a 2nd trip to the er. Still no idea what's wrong. Will resume my review when I'm more rested and not on the brink of a nervous break down.

Basementcat....I know I said this was not to be a social thread...but this is a special circumstance.....my prayers are with you and you wife. I am certain that everyone else here on this thread and at ECF will agree. Do not worry about this beta test....it is trivia compared to your family. I know my boss would agree as well. Hang in there....come back when you can. You have no obligations here.

 

[lorikay13]

Just a little quality control check here on the carto... Is it possible that you meant plastic ring, then filter, then plastic ring closest to the top? All of mine have had the filter between the two plastic rings. I can imagine that juice in the filter right up by they hole in the mouth piece could deliver juice.

No actually it is not. Those rings are silicone. But your basic observation is correct. That is the configuration eveyone is talking about. I apologize for the redundency but I think I will need to keep re-posting this....most of our customers do not belong to ECF. In fact...hard as it is to beleive....ECF is a fraction of the minority of people who use electronic PV's. SmokeStik markets predominantly to the general public....not specifically to ECF like most other vendors here on the forum. That said.....our products are geared to people who not only do not want to refill cartos.....but recoil at the thought. I know....hard to imagine...but it's true. Most of my customers don't even know that this is possible....let alone would be willing to do it. So the silicone rings and filter are there as a buffer against the e-juice. Unfortunately at the moment we are having an issue with the calibration on the machine that fills the cartos. Really bad timing probably one of Murphy's Laws......

 

[VpnDrgn]

My previous experience -
Started with Blu, was satisfied with taste and vapor, moved to 510 because of L88b batty life and sensitive auto
Tried V4L coolcarts because I had problems with SLB cartos burning with dark ejuice
Got tired of crappy quality control on stuff from V4L and didn't want to buy more KR8 batties and cartos from someone else
Moved up to 3.7v with GLV and have been using Boge mega carto @ 3.4 ohms, am mostly satisfied ( may need lighter ohms for 3.7v )
I use mostly Johnson creek Red Oak ( VG ) juices and Vapor Renu custom blend ( 55PG/35VG/10enhancer ), both are fairly thin.
That's my experience with e-cigs.

Now to the Pitbull -
First impression - Nice finish, etching looked good under fluorescent lights at work but not so well under softer lighting at home,
the gem is nice, not bright enough to see in full light though, when I cup my hand around it I get a ring of pinpoints so I'm
assuming the back has a silver film with dots around the edge to let light through; I got the hindu cartos and the finish
is an exact match so that looks good .

I got the med tobacco Hindu cartos and while the flavor is not too bad on the draw, the inhale is kinda harsh at the back of the tongue,
especially after a couple of puffs with nothing to drink in between.

I started using my pb right outta the box, the carto did get a little rough going in the last turn or so but I didn't have to force it.
The vapor production is good, especially considering I don't try to take huge puffs. I have seen on here that other people get a
tight draw but IMO the draw is fairly light, almost too light. Since I didn't like the flavor I popped the top on the
carto to put a little of my reg juice in and the first thing I notice is the second ring is in crooked. I don't know if this ring is
supposed to sit down around the tube, but the tube was off center so this made the ring crooked. I was able to put in 20 drops
in a fresh pre-filled carto and this made me think I had over filled but the filler just sucked it up and vaped with no problems
when I put it back together. When I got home I popped the top on another carto and it was crooked as well. I left out the first
ring and used a soft plug in place of the hard cap. This means there is now a plug, then the wafer of material, then the second
ring sitting just touching the center tube; and after reverse spinning the pre-fill juice out I was able to put in 30 drops with no
problems. I have tried the carto with all the little plugs taken out and just a soft plug put back in and there is no perceivable
difference. If these rings are not necessary for function, the space would be better utilized for more filler. The center post could
be a little sturdier too, I noticed it moves quite freely when trying to center it and it moved outward a bit when doing the reverse spin.
I used the pb a little at work and have been using it for the last 3 1/2 hours at appx 210 puffs. Performance does seem to be a little
lower now so I'll prolly put it on the charger now and come back tomorrow with impressions on charge time and batty life.

 

[susie22321]

My testing has come to a halt for now. Off subject but my wife was rushed to the er because she fainted and vomited. Day 2 of all this and a 2nd trip to the er. Still no idea what's wrong. Will resume my review when I'm more rested and not on the brink of a nervous break down.

BC, my thoughts and prayers are with you and your wife! I know this is OT, but it's important.

 

[VpnDrgn]

Basementcat....I know I said this was not to be a social thread...but this is a special circumstance.....my prayers are with you and you wife. I am certain that everyone else here on this thread and at ECF will agree. Do not worry about this beta test....it is trivia compared to your family. I know my boss would agree as well. Hang in there....come back when you can. You have no obligations here.

Absolutely, Real Life comes first, especially where loved ones are concerned.
Hope everything works out.

 

[LowThudd]

One thing I forgot to mention is the finish. It is much nicer than that of my(now) stainless eGo. Feels smoth, but not slippery like the eGo feels w/ it's paint removed.

I got in a second 4081 no name batt today, and before I killed it(I'm doing CPR on it now), I noticed how much nicer the PB is than the run of the mill 4081. The draw was lighter on the no name batt, too light. And the sensor was inconsistent. It would start off with no vapor for a second, then kick in. Sometimes I had to increase my draw to keep the LED lit. Just like my 510. The PB has NONE of these problems. It was worth the $8 for a comparison, but wish me luck at getting the juice out of it. Never refill a carto while attched to the batt, especially in the dark. lol Yes, I already knew that, I have refilled eGo cartos quite a few times. But for some reason I goofed, now the batt won't shut down untill it hits the cut out. Flushed it w/ water(wierd I know), and I have it wrapped in a towel shoved in a bag of flour to see if I can dry it out.

 

[ImYourSalt]

I was using my PB during daylight hours today, and really wish the LED was more luminescent. During the day, I couldnt tell if the light was on or off. not really a problem until it started to die, and i was checking to see if it was flashing, or something... i have no idea.

just started my second full charge. i noticed my jaw is a little sore from the tight draw. maybe thats just the carto. it kinda whistles when i pull on it, so maybe thats the culprit. we'll see.

im constantly topping the carto off with PG 555 24mg. still retains the original pre-filled flavor, though i am getting a faint burnt flavor and smell. I just pulled the filler out, rinsed, and noticed no burning. it smelled clean. i restuffed it. and it works fine. though that burnt flavor lingers... maybe its the wick? maybe i shouldve rinsed that part too? anyway... i'm putting that one aside for now.

i'll let you know how carto #3 goes...

 

[basementcat]

Thank you all. Didn't mean to get off topic just wanted peeps to know why if I disappear for a lil bit.

 

[5cardstud]

Just a little quality control check here on the carto... Is it possible that you meant plastic ring, then filter, then plastic ring closest to the top? All of mine have had the filter between the two plastic rings. I can imagine that juice in the filter right up by they hole in the mouth piece could deliver juice.

No mine have a thin piece of filler right next to the mouthpiece, It is about as thick as a matchbook under it is a little tiny ring. Under that is a space then a regular size ring that if you look at it close on the down side it is constructed like a seal. Under that is the filler where the juice goes. It's just as I explained, that top piece is supposed to be dry I think to act as a filter. When I first popped the cap I thought the filler went clear to the top until I removed it.

Sorry I see lorikay13 already answered that.

 

[5cardstud]

I was using my PB during daylight hours today, and really wish the LED was more luminescent. During the day, I couldnt tell if the light was on or off. not really a problem until it started to die, and i was checking to see if it was flashing, or something... i have no idea.

just started my second full charge. i noticed my jaw is a little sore from the tight draw. maybe thats just the carto. it kinda whistles when i pull on it, so maybe thats the culprit. we'll see.

im constantly topping the carto off with PG 555 24mg. still retains the original pre-filled flavor, though i am getting a faint burnt flavor and smell. I just pulled the filler out, rinsed, and noticed no burning. it smelled clean. i restuffed it. and it works fine. though that burnt flavor lingers... maybe its the wick? maybe i shouldve rinsed that part too? anyway... i'm putting that one aside for now.

i'll let you know how carto #3 goes...

If you look close while your puffing there is a little tiny hole on each side of the led cap that lets light out so you can see it's working. It's kind of bluish colored or white light. You can feel the little holes with your thumb nail if you run it around the edge. Tey're only about the size of a pin point. They are pretty bright though for their size.

 

[Art-n-Cate]

Handed mine to a couple of smoker friends to try. They were all very impressed by the looks. Even more impressed w/ how closely the vape was similar to a real cig. Very nicely done on that/

Had the same experience. Had them try my wet box, Janty Stick and the the PB. Had a hard time getting them to give it back! lol
We had dinner with another smoker friend and let him try the PB and the Hendu, explaining that for now he could only order the Hendu. I really think SS's are the best suggestion for someone who wants to duplicate the flavor/feel of analogs. Considering the number of PV's out there, I'd saying you couldn't get a higher recommendation...IMO...

But back to the PB testing. I got about 200 hits, not including primers - which I do fairly often. After about 100 hits, I needed more primes to get a good hit. It was also at this point that the taste/vape started to decrease. Have been switching back and forth between the Hendu and the PB and find that the Hendu satisfies better than the PB after about a half a carto.
I started the day with a fresh cart on each battery (both fully charged) and alternated between the two. Didn't count puffs on the Hendu but found myself reaching for it rather than the PB as the day wore on. It seems the Hendu's flavor/vape and TH seem to last longer.
I, too, fell asleep waiting for the PB to charge last night. Will do it during the day tomorrow and instead of comparing, will stay solely wi the PB.

 

[LowThudd]

No mine have a thin piece of filler right next to the mouthpiece, It is about as thick as a matchbook under it is a little tiny ring. Under that is a space then a regular size ring that if you look at it close on the down side it is constructed like a seal. Under that is the filler where the juice goes. It's just as I explained, that top piece is supposed to be dry I think to act as a filter. When I first popped the cap I thought the filler went clear to the top until I removed it.

Odd, mine has two rings. The filter is sandwiched between the two silicone rings on top of the filler, and the cap is on top of the first silicone ring. Sure you didn't throw the baby out with the bath water? Or is yours missing a ring? The two I have opened so far were constructed the same: Cap-thin silicone ring-filter-thick silicone ring seal-filler.

 

[lorikay13]

I was using my PB during daylight hours today, and really wish the LED was more luminescent. During the day, I couldnt tell if the light was on or off. not really a problem until it started to die, and i was checking to see if it was flashing, or something... i have no idea.

just started my second full charge. i noticed my jaw is a little sore from the tight draw. maybe thats just the carto. it kinda whistles when i pull on it, so maybe thats the culprit. we'll see.

im constantly topping the carto off with PG 555 24mg. still retains the original pre-filled flavor, though i am getting a faint burnt flavor and smell. I just pulled the filler out, rinsed, and noticed no burning. it smelled clean. i restuffed it. and it works fine. though that burnt flavor lingers... maybe its the wick? maybe i shouldve rinsed that part too? anyway... i'm putting that one aside for now.

i'll let you know how carto #3 goes...

no comment.
you are afterall.....the Serial Carto Killer...along with your accomplis....that little tweety bird. Sorry folks....there is just no possible way I could resist commenting on this.........

seriuosly now... that "burnt" taste/smell is NOT a result of actual burning...as in combustion.....I expect Scottbee will chime in on this issue eventually.....anyway...it is a result of glazing of the juice on the wicking coil at the bottom of the carto. What causes this?
#1 letting the carto go dry......(this is actually how our "normal" customers know when to throw away the carto and put on a fresh one)
#2 letting the carto go dry
#3 freighttrain vaping.....rather the carto is dry or wet......overheating them will glaze the juice.....honestly...once this happens you need to pitch the carto.....unless you happen to have a bottle of PGA around....then you can try rinsing it out with that.....but no promises....

Our cartos are good...really good....but there is no such thing as a perfect carto. The closest thing to a perfect carto......is an atomizer. At least here at ECF no one is willing to pay the price it would cost to produce a cartomiozer that lasted as long as an atomizer.

 

[5cardstud]

Odd, mine has two rings. The filter is sandwiched between the two silicone rings on top of the filler, and the cap is on top of the first silicone ring. Sure you didn't throw the baby out with the bath water? Or is yours missing a ring? The two I have opened so far were constructed the same: Cap-thin silicone ring-filter-thick silicone ring seal-filler.

No actually look at post 122 and you'll see thats how they're supposed to be and how all mine have been.

 

[plerskine]

As I was one of those people Lori I wholeheartedly agree with you. I wanted something I could grab and go with- much the same as a cig, for my first ecig. That is why i chose the Hendu 2 piece auto. I was a menthol smoker and liked and purchased many of the menthol cartomizers, I only learned later from this forum about juice, refilling, etc. Having used these cartos 2 months, including refilling numerous times with absolutely no problems, I'm hoping you don't make too much in the way of changes. From personal experience these are worth every penny when considering the reusability and longevity.


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[LowThudd]

No actually look at post 122 and you'll see thats how they're supposed to be and how all mine have been.

Originally Posted by HyOnLyph
Just a little quality control check here on the carto... Is it possible that you meant plastic ring, then filter, then plastic ring closest to the top? All of mine have had the filter between the two plastic rings. I can imagine that juice in the filter right up by they hole in the mouth piece could deliver juice.

His are the same as mine. If yours are different, then there is a quality control issue one way or another. I just pulled a brand new one out, opened it up and there is a silicone ring on top of the filter, just under the cap. Am I misunderstanding you?

 

[5cardstud]

I have to agree that this is the closest to actual smoking analogs I've used. Being a carto user only these are an excellent PV for people just starting out. I haven't had any of the burnt taste but I don't let my cartos get that dry any more. As soon as they start losing vapor I know it's time to refill or put on a new one.

 

[5cardstud]

His are the same as mine. If yours are different, then there is a quality control issue one way or another. I just pulled a brand new one out, opened it up and there is a silicone ring on top of the filter, just under the cap. Am I misunderstanding you?

It must have just been the first 2 because I opened a new one and the ring is first on it. Plus that one had a sticker on the wrapper. The other 2 didn't. Now I want to open the rest to see but I'll wait.

 

[LowThudd]

I was able to put in 30 drops with no problems.

Low and behold..it will hold 30 drops. Nice find. I'm liking the SS e-cigs even more now. Probably a good idea to use the included filter when filling that much, if it is not to be used right away.

 

[plerskine]

Hmm.. 5card you had 2 that didn't have a silicone ring on top? Were yours wrapped in black sticker? Just wondering If these were somehow a "special" batch because I've purchased over 200 of the cartos and every single one had 2 silicone rings with the small filler in between them.


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