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Hmm.. 5card you had 2 that didn't have a silicone ring on top? Were yours wrapped in black sticker? Just wondering If these were somehow a "special" batch because I've purchased over 200 of the cartos and every single one had 2 silicone rings with the small filler in between them.


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Ya My first two had the little thin filler piece on top. I got the black ones that are in clear wrappers and those first 2 didn't have a sticker on the cellophane but it probably just come off because I noticed another one had the sticker stuck to 2 packages. When I refilled the first one it held 35 drops which I like.
 

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OMG!!!! I got mine!!!! whooohoo!!!!!

this thing is seriously gorgeous! i let mrlorikay13 touch it.....and he loved it....hehe.....

I immediately threw at SS Regular 16mg carto on it.......after I took the silicone rings and filter out of it....and I am totally thrilled. I honestly don't understand the comments about a tight draw....all I can think is that it is because of the overfilled cartos and not the battery.

And here is something amazing....mrlorikay13.....who vapes Atomic Cinnacide like a fool....actually likes the flavor!!! I have to admit.....my pride got the best of me when he said..."hey....what IS this???? it's really good"....oops...this isnt supposed to be a carto review....sorry :)

It is hard to be objective.....but seriously....Bill....I have to say...you out did yourself on this one! I love it. I dont even care if it works.....

edit......well of course it works.....and mine seems to be working quite well. It will be interesting to find out exactly what is in a switch wise etc...I'm still thinking alot of what people are experiencing has to do with the cartomizer. Like everyone else I was too excited to bother with a puff count and beleive it or not actually slept last night so I'm still going on the initial charge out of the box. I want to run it down so I can see exactly how long it takes to charge on the USB charger and then compare that to the charge time on an AC charger.
 
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Ya My first two had the little thin filler piece on top. I got the black ones that are in clear wrappers and those first 2 didn't have a sticker on the cellophane but it probably just come off because I noticed another one had the sticker stuck to 2 packages. When I refilled the first one it held 35 drops which I like.
I ordered one box of cartos - regular, high - so had five carts. The first had the little filter paper circle right under the mouth tip - on top of the two rings. Second cart had the little filter between the rings. Third cart had no filter and the center straw up between the two rings. All three of the first ones have a sticky kind of adhesive residue around the bottom just above the threads. As I ordered the Hendu carts, I'm assuming that these at one time had another color wrapped on it.
Me thinks that it is just a bad batch that unfortunately came during the beta test. Like Lorikay said, we are the minority in terms of their carto sales as we refill. I'm betting the rest of their customers...the non-refillers...noticed nothing out of the ordinary. Taste doesn't seem to be affected.
A question about the carto filler...mine fills a little more than half the carto. Is this normal? I've noticed people getting a huge number of drops in when they refill...any more than 12 or so and it's running out the bottom. I know we're battery testing here but inquiring minds....
 

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A question about the carto filler...mine fills a little more than half the carto. Is this normal? I've noticed people getting a huge number of drops in when they refill...any more than 12 or so and it's running out the bottom. I know we're battery testing here but inquiring minds....

I got 30 drops by angling the carto 45*(as instructed by LK), drip a couple drops down the side of the carto, rotate it slightly, drop a couple more drops, rotate, drop etc.. By the time I get all the way back to the start it has dried alittle on top, and I can put a drop or two more. I just keep following those steps until the top is slushy, then put one drop down the middle, put the cap on and blow through the threads. This got me the best flavor and vapor of thel day.
 
I got 30 drops by angling the carto 45*(as instructed by LK), drip a couple drops down the side of the carto, rotate it slightly, drop a couple more drops, rotate, drop etc.. By the time I get all the way back to the start it has dried alittle on top, and I can put a drop or two more. I just keep following those steps until the top is slushy, then put one drop down the middle, put the cap on and blow through the threads. This got me the best flavor and vapor of thel day.

Thanks, LT! I was doing it at 45* but maybe going a bit too fast and not rotating so much. And I hadn't tried blowing through the threads. Bet you fixed me right up! And forgot to put cap on the bottom...at least I did remember to take the carto off the battery! lol
 

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I ordered one box of cartos - regular, high - so had five carts. The first had the little filter paper circle right under the mouth tip - on top of the two rings. Second cart had the little filter between the rings. Third cart had no filter and the center straw up between the two rings. All three of the first ones have a sticky kind of adhesive residue around the bottom just above the threads. As I ordered the Hendu carts, I'm assuming that these at one time had another color wrapped on it.
Me thinks that it is just a bad batch that unfortunately came during the beta test. Like Lorikay said, we are the minority in terms of their carto sales as we refill. I'm betting the rest of their customers...the non-refillers...noticed nothing out of the ordinary. Taste doesn't seem to be affected.
A question about the carto filler...mine fills a little more than half the carto. Is this normal? I've noticed people getting a huge number of drops in when they refill...any more than 12 or so and it's running out the bottom. I know we're battery testing here but inquiring minds....
Thanks , I thought I must be losing my mind because everyone was saying it was not that way on the rings. The number of drops I found out along time ago is decided in huge part to the dropper and the thickness of the juice your using. Some of the bottles have little drops of thin juice that goes right into the filler and some bottles have larger drops of a thicker consistancy that don't soak in as good. What ever you do make sure you have that cap on the treaded end when filling or it will run out and lastly if it fills too slow for me I use the spin method.
 

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at least I did remember to take the carto off the battery! lol

Got me there. At least I did it to a cheesy batt instead of the PB. I would have banished myself from the discussion if I had done that. I really like this batt. It is a nice, calm change of pace. And it really gives me the feel of smoking a cig. Very nice.

I still have no idea why I did that to the 4081 batt, and when I say I flooded it, I mean I REALLY flooded it. I was watching something on TV, and filled the carto nearly to the top! I don't think that batt is coming back. I bet I never do that again.
 

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Thanks , I thought I must be losing my mind because everyone was saying it was not that way on the rings. The number of drops I found out along time ago is decided in huge part to the dropper and the thickness of the juice your using. Some of the bottles have little drops of thin juice that goes right into the filler and some bottles have larger drops of a thicker consistancy that don't soak in as good. What ever you do make sure you have that cap on the treaded end when filling or it will run out and lastly if it fills too slow for me I use the spin method.

I'm using a 30ml bottle, and it puts out big drops. My method seems to work well. And GP VG juice is the same viscosity as PG juice.
 

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Ok so my daughter and wife are finally asleep. She is feeling better. Finally watch the clock on the charge time. 2 hours 54 minutes on it's 3rd charge. Wasn't able to do a puff count today due to being in the hospital most of the day but will start that again tomorrow. I am also wondering about hard draw? Mine seems far too airy and I really gotta hit it super light to get good vapor. I am guessing this is just a carto issue considering it really couldn't be the battery. Anyhow the battery most definitely out lasts my joye standard 510. It in fact last approximately 2-3 hours longer than my 510. As far as being an auto bat this is the only one I've even like at all and honestly I love it. If I could make it produce more vapor than my riva I would definitely be using it more often just based off how badass it looks hanging from my lips. Heh. The batteries do act funny though. My normal bats (510 and riva) once they do their death flash that's it until they charge, the pb will still flash every time i try to hit it afterwards and if i let it sit a few minutes works some more before flashing again. Thinking that it doesn't have a shutdown for some reason. Also like I posted before my charger never turns blue unless the bat is unplugged and I noticed tonight the led ash cap was pulsing slightly just before it turned off (done charging). So I'm assuming that when the ash led goes off it's safe to assume it's charged? Anyhow all in all this has become my "driving/going out and about" e cig. Once I get vapor production a lil higher (possibly by emptying and using another carto) it might be my all day user. Only time will tell.
 

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Ok so my daughter and wife are finally asleep. She is feeling better. Finally watch the clock on the charge time. 2 hours 54 minutes on it's 3rd charge. Wasn't able to do a puff count today due to being in the hospital most of the day but will start that again tomorrow. I am also wondering about hard draw? Mine seems far too airy and I really gotta hit it super light to get good vapor. I am guessing this is just a carto issue considering it really couldn't be the battery. Anyhow the battery most definitely out lasts my joye standard 510. It in fact last approximately 2-3 hours longer than my 510. As far as being an auto bat this is the only one I've even like at all and honestly I love it. If I could make it produce more vapor than my riva I would definitely be using it more often just based off how badass it looks hanging from my lips. Heh. The batteries do act funny though. My normal bats (510 and riva) once they do their death flash that's it until they charge, the pb will still flash every time i try to hit it afterwards and if i let it sit a few minutes works some more before flashing again. Thinking that it doesn't have a shutdown for some reason. Also like I posted before my charger never turns blue unless the bat is unplugged and I noticed tonight the led ash cap was pulsing slightly just before it turned off (done charging). So I'm assuming that when the ash led goes off it's safe to assume it's charged? Anyhow all in all this has become my "driving/going out and about" e cig. Once I get vapor production a lil higher (possibly by emptying and using another carto) it might be my all day user. Only time will tell.

Glad to hear shes OK man. Yea, as far as the draw goes, I think you may be right. It doesn't seem near as tight as it was(or I'm getting used to it). Either way I like it alot.
 

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Basementcat....I know I said this was not to be a social thread...but this is a special circumstance.....my prayers are with you and you wife. I am certain that everyone else here on this thread and at ECF will agree. Do not worry about this beta test....it is trivia compared to your family. I know my boss would agree as well. Hang in there....come back when you can. You have no obligations here.

@basementcat: Hang in there!! I'm sure that everything will be Ok... after all, we cats always land on our feet, and I'm sure that Mrs. BC is no exception!!

BTW, Spacekitty. There are two little cutrouts in the end of the PB where you can see when the LED is on. Doesn't work so well in bright light, but in the dim works well.

Thanks!! I would have never noticed them without my glasses... LOL!!

i noticed my jaw is a little sore from the tight draw. maybe thats just the carto. it kinda whistles when i pull on it, so maybe thats the culprit.

I'm glad I'm not the only one... and you gotta get it on just right to stop the whistle, not to tight and not too loose. But then the Boge cartos are a little noisy, too (no whistle tho).


I was vaping my 510 auto w/atty while I was waiting for the PB to charge, and when I fired it up again, it didn't seem as hard of a draw as I remembered... So I think it is somewhere between the 2 for me, and I took this little pic:

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(boy, it really DID come out little!! click to enlarge... lol!!)


CHARGING: Light started blinking red/blue on USB charger @ exactly 2.5 hrs. but I had a friend over who explained the whole thing about 'trickle-down charging' and that his cell phone did that when he charged it on his laptop. (btw, it's his old laptop I am using right now, and he said I'm safe charging on it...) so we let it go a little longer to see what would happen.

It kept alternating blinks between the LED and finally looked like it was going to stay blue after another 1/2 hr.... but then it started blinking again, so I gave up!!
The next time I will stop when it first starts blinking and see if it made any difference...

Also, I've gotten a good 150 puffs out of the carto right now, which is amazing!! But it is finally showing signs of slowing down, so I think I'll take this opportunity to fill it up with some of my own stuff...

More later!! :vapor:
 

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Glad to hear shes OK man. Yea, as far as the draw goes, I think you may be right. It doesn't seem near as tight as it was(or I'm getting used to it). Either way I like it alot.

Yeah I'm glad too. Still dunno what it was. As far as draw goes I think I'm just used to the e2 carto I was using. It had a super hard draw. Using a boge right now and it's draw is still tighter than the pb but closer. Just perplexed about vapor production. It still can't put out like any of the 510 cartos I've used. Don't see why seeing as how it's a very similar design to the
Boges (after taking out the extra top pieces) I really need to just try another cart but I'm weird like that and don't like using a new one till the old ones dead heh.
 

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Yeah I'm glad too. Still dunno what it was. As far as draw goes I think I'm just used to the e2 carto I was using. It had a super hard draw. Using a boge right now and it's draw is still tighter than the pb but closer. Just perplexed about vapor production. It still can't put out like any of the 510 cartos I've used. Don't see why seeing as how it's a very similar design to the
Boges (after taking out the extra top pieces) I really need to just try another cart but I'm weird like that and don't like using a new one till the old ones dead heh.

Prolly the ohms. These are 3.3 ohm, 510 cartos are likely 3.0 or 2.5. Even though(according to Scottbee) the PB puts out 3.4v and the 510 is 3.1, w/ lower resistance there is more vapor. Honestly, I never expected the 4081 PB to perform as well as it does. Nice surprize.
 

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Prolly the ohms. These are 3.3 ohm, 510 cartos are likely 3.0 or 2.5. Even though(according to Scottbee) the PB puts out 3.4v and the 510 is 3.1, w/ lower resistance there is more vapor. Honestly, I never expected the 4081 PB to perform as well as it does. Nice surprize.
Hmm so do they make 4081 carts that are 3 ohm or less? Also anyone else experience the charger never going blue
No matter how long it's on there?
 

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Hmm so do they make 4081 carts that are 3 ohm or less? Also anyone else experience the charger never going blue
No matter how long it's on there?

Yea, good prophets has 2.5 and 3ohm cartos and an atty that I think is 3ohm. 4081 attys/cartos are available all over, but I doubt they will perform as well as the SS cartos. Except for more vapor, which I am actually happy w/. I'll probably break down and buy an atty and some double carts, but I have spent too much dinero in the last couple of weeks and I need to mellow out. lol
 

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4th charge...got 150 long hard draws out of it. I'm gonna try charging it an a PCC, see how it does. BTW, the threads were VERY tight on the PCC charger. A generic 4081 batt fit on fine. The PB required alittle extra force to get it to seat. Also, the LED cap does light up when on the PCC, just so you know.
 

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Hmm so do they make 4081 carts that are 3 ohm or less? Also anyone else experience the charger never going blue
No matter how long it's on there?

Hey!! Glad to hear that everything's Ok... :thumb:

Read the part in my post before this one (#153), where it says 'Charging'... Are you still using the USB port on your computer, or did you go for the wall adapter? And if you are charging from the wall outlet, does it still do it then?

Oh yes, and I put 25 drops of my 555 Menthol 50/50 mix in the carto and what a difference!! Now we're talkin' vapor!! But I can see how it resembles the function of a real cig more the other way... I guess we're all just spoiled!! LOL!!

Well, I'm running on about 4 hrs. sleep so I guess I'm gonna pack it in... See ya'll in the morning!!


P.S. Just checked the tracking on my AC adapter and it looks like it should be here tomorrow!! Now I won't have to unplug my router, and I'll be able to surf and charge at the same time... WooHoo!!
 
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