Post 8-8-16 Stock Up
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So I don't NEED anything, but one of my favorite juice vendors from days gone by has released DYI flavor extracts. Some of them were available back in July, so I got some and I'm really enjoying them. Recently they release some more, so I thought I'd order a few of those too. Put 'em in my cart, go to checkout, and... BLUECHECK! 
Nope. Not happening. Not gonna give BlueCheck my cell number or the last four of my SSN to account so I can be on a nice one-stop-shop list of people who've ordered vapestuffs on-line.
Sorry, Alice, it's been nice knowing you.
Nope. Not happening. Not gonna give BlueCheck my cell number or the last four of my SSN to account so I can be on a nice one-stop-shop list of people who've ordered vapestuffs on-line.
Sorry, Alice, it's been nice knowing you.
I believe that there is a long line of people with the same thought...
This will likely give a short term boost to the B&M's as many vapers would rather pay a higher price face to face than go through that gauntlet.
I will be shopping where I have the option where the delivery can be signed for... I can go to the PO and pick it up - no problem...
No, but I see the day coming when concentrated nic will become hard to get......
Thats one thing the CAN regulate.
Both the DNA6o and the DNA250 are established retail products prior to 8/8, I have a invoice trail and pics of my built mods (hobby modder only no retail) to prove it.
The DNA60 will fit in the same space as a DNA40, making it a good retrofit candidate. It comes in a large screen and a small screen version.
The DNA250 includes a 2Amp charger.
I sincerely hope these are not the last DNA series to ever be released in the USA.
In my experience, FT's ship days have been 90% reliable when they list a specified date for a product to come in.
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Or at least trying to stay in business until their current lease expires.It's hard to hit a like button for that post.I think a lot of shops are trying to decide if its worth it to try to keep going for two years at most.
So I don't NEED anything, but one of my favorite juice vendors from days gone by has released DYI flavor extracts. Some of them were available back in July, so I got some and I'm really enjoying them. Recently they release some more, so I thought I'd order a few of those too. Put 'em in my cart, go to checkout, and... BLUECHECK!
Nope. Not happening. Not gonna give BlueCheck my cell number or the last four of my SSN to account so I can be on a nice one-stop-shop list of people who've ordered vapestuffs on-line.
Sorry, Alice, it's been nice knowing you.
Maybe if you dropped an email and stated your displeasure with Bluecheck as the Age Verification method. You could also give them an alternative that you would be willing to live with. Also explain why you don't trust Bluecheck.
Just a thought
Yes, I will probably do that. As I mentioned in the other thread, I wouldn't object to e-mailing them a scan of a government-issued photo ID. I wouldn't even mind paying to have it shipped "adult signature required". But none of those are an option in their on-line ordering system.Maybe if you dropped an email and stated your displeasure with Bluecheck as the Age Verification method. You could also give them an alternative that you would be willing to live with. Also explain why you don't trust Bluecheck.
Just a thought
It looks like the biggest hurdle post 8-8 is the age verification. Still early for overseas shipping and customs. I have received about 3 shipments from China post 8-8, have 2 more coming from FT.
I bought something yesterday. No hurdle. I put in my birthdate Vertidad or whatever it's called, verified me in a split second.
Granted, it was a vendor that is known for "having their act together". They obviously got the right verification company, they got the right software / coders to put their shopping cart software in order, etc. etc. etc.
But that brings me to reminiscing back to 2012, I was saying then "when all the dust settles years from now, there will be certain vendors who stay in biz and certain ones who wont'. And I named some of them. Guess what? The names haven't changed.
When you are in business and you are serious and professional, you are one step ahead. Back in 2012, it was a "hurdle" for some of these companies to use glass bottles. It was "hurdle" to shrink wrap the product / provide proper closure to the eliquid. Later on when Dr. F's research identifiedd that maybe diacetyl wasn't good to vape, it was a 'hurdle" for some of these places to remove it and/or test their products.
With or w/out the FDA though, (and I admit they make it all harder) really professional businesses have a plan that includes having the pulse of their industry, and an eye toward the future. NOBODY stays in business resting on their laurels.......not in today's modern, fast, globally competitive world. They are flexible and can make changes when and where necessary and STILL survive. (not like IBM)
Anyway, the same 10 or so companies I noticed that were showing ultimate professionalism back in 2012 are still 'bringing it' today. You have to be diversified (can't only sell carto tanks becasue if modernity and technology change, you have nothing to sell down the line) and you have to "keep on keeping up".
And, that is true in ANY business.........regulated or not. (because your competiton will be out to get you; new technology will be out to get you; changing consumer tastes and spending habits will be out to get you; your distributor who can no longer deliver X, Y and Z to you will make you have to re-design or reformulate a product.............the list is endless.
Thousands of businesses close their doors, every day, all across America.
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Hundreds of thousands of customers are buying wines and smoking pipes on line, have been for years, and have no problem with age verification.....and the companies they shop with are doing just fine. Vaping doesn't have to re-invent the wheel or anything.
IF you have some wonky system where you are going to require people send you their driver's license or first born........yeah...you are going to lose many many customers.
If I were in the situation of having to get an age verification system up and running, I would have started vetting that many months ago, and would find, then pay somebody with expertise in that, and I would spend whatever I had to spend to get the very best system up and running, with the least possible toil for my customer.
Or suffer the consequences.
You see it all the time with small Mom and Pop shops, Restaurants, etc...
OK, I did that --- except I didn't explain why I won't sign up for a BlueCheck account. I simply said I won't, figuring if they wanted to know why, they'd ask. But what I did do is to give them a list of previous orders I'd placed with them.Maybe if you dropped an email and stated your displeasure with Bluecheck as the Age Verification method. You could also give them an alternative that you would be willing to live with. Also explain why you don't trust Bluecheck.
Just a thought
Anyway, I was offered a completely acceptable work-around.
Can you elaborate, or is it a State Secret?OK, I did that --- except I didn't explain why I won't sign up for a BlueCheck account. I simply said I won't, figuring if they wanted to know why, they'd ask. But what I did do is to give them a list of previous orders I'd placed with them.
Anyway, I was offered a completely acceptable work-around.
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