Decided to keep it simple today.
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I believe this is called a helix coil. I decided to build something a bit fancier then I usually do lol. It's a 26/34 gauge clapton twisted with 24 gauge kanthal with 5 wraps around a 2.4mm rod. Came out to .35 ohms. Still need to break the cotton in before I know how good the flavor really is but I'm liking it so far! Not sure I'll build many more clapton style builds though since they're time consuming lol.
Messing around.. Turned out alright.
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what rda is that? Nice editing btw
Back to the basics... 24ga nichrome 80, 6/5 wraps on 2.5mm 0.20Ω
Yes. More of that....
less of this crap...
That spaced coil wrap likely vapes better than 90% of the pointless fused, stapled, buttered and french-fried, octo-hepta coil builds that are all the rage.
Listen to the OGs kids.... get yourself some 26 gauge kanthal and a 3mm mandrel... give that 5/6 spaced wraps... screw it down and wick and enjoy.
Seems like we've got a theme going. I've been dialing in my new Royal Hunter and these little suckers are perfection for my taste. Simple dual 3mm macros, 5/6 of 26awg at about 45° (why not?). coils hit between 180-220mW/mm² for the full length of my battery. Quick to fire, quick to cool. Twisted is relegated to smaller single coil builds from here out.
But I just started vaping on my buttered peppered kettle-cooked double espresso machiatto enchilada fused claptons and it's the best flavor I've had since from a coil [emoji45][emoji26]Yes. More of that....
less of this crap...
That spaced coil wrap likely vapes better than 90% of the pointless fused, stapled, buttered and french-fried, octo-hepta coil builds that are all the rage.
Listen to the OGs kids.... get yourself some 26 gauge kanthal and a 3mm mandrel... give that 5/6 spaced wraps... screw it down and wick and enjoy.
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I somewhat disagree..... Some coils are over the top, and the net gain isn't worth it to me, but no coil has given me better flavor then a Clapton, and no coil has given me better "cloud" then a stovetop.Yes. More of that....
less of this crap...
That spaced coil wrap likely vapes better than 90% of the pointless fused, stapled, buttered and french-fried, octo-hepta coil builds that are all the rage.
Listen to the OGs kids.... get yourself some 26 gauge kanthal and a 3mm mandrel... give that 5/6 spaced wraps... screw it down and wick and enjoy.
Speaking of claptons, here are some little claptons I just made for my brand new Billow V2. Can't wait to try them!
Specs: 36g KA1 over 28g N80 6 wraps with 2mm ID 0.4 ohms on my Sigelei. (had to send my USA ohm meter back today for replacement [emoji19])
Hey USACotaku, I suck at claptons, how do I get them to be contact coils? Just patience? I pinched them but I feel like they're so fragile I didn't want to work them too long so I just left them spaced like that.
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best flavor build for me...10ish wraps of 28 gauge kanthal, 2 mm I.D....1.5 ohms
I've tried the "fancy" builds and microcoils give me the best flavor. I like to keep in simple.
Though some claim it bad to do, I torch them... It removes much of the springiness allowing for a tighter wrap.Speaking of claptons, here are some little claptons I just made for my brand new Billow V2. Can't wait to try them!
Specs: 36g KA1 over 28g N80 6 wraps with 2mm ID 0.4 ohms on my Sigelei. (had to send my USA ohm meter back today for replacement [emoji19])
Hey USACotaku, I suck at claptons, how do I get them to be contact coils? Just patience? I pinched them but I feel like they're so fragile I didn't want to work them too long so I just left them spaced like that.
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Don't remember if I posted this, my Clapton stovetop
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Shot at a Staged heating coil.
-24g nichrome core fused clapton w/ 32g
-26g twisted paralleled
-24g nichrome core fused clapton w/ 32g
-26g twisted paralleled
Don't remember if I posted this, my Clapton stovetop
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that's pretty...but I don't even know how you would wick it! lol
I'm not an OG, but have already found that out. I haven't tried too many crazy builds, but I always come back to what's simple and good. Though I do prefer a simple 2 strand twisted wire most of the time, since it has better flavor to me. I'm either rocking twisted 28 kanthal, or twisted 30 nickel, depending on my mood. I also do enjoy a nice and simple 24 gauge dual build when I want something low and hot.
I just don't see the point in a clapton, or any of the others, outside of looking cool (which who cares how it looks when it's inside an atomizer and you never really see it unless you pull the top cap to drip). Surely a simple twisted wire does the same thing as a clapton, which is increase surface area and allow for juice "pockets" inside the wire to hold a bit of juice and improve wicking. Twisting is so much easier than claptons, staples and the like. I even use a coffee cup most of the time to twist my wire, so I don't have to bother with my drill. Give it a few spins until it breaks at one end, and you have a perfectly twisted wire in under a minute. But I do understand the fun, hobbyist aspect of doing more complex coils, so I'm not really hating on it. Just for my time and money, I don't often feel like messing around. I just want a great vape for as little time and money as possible. Twisted does that for me.
And for the sake of sharing, 30 gauge twisted nickel on my new (and probably my favorite) Derringer RDA. The flavor on this thing is out of this world. The small chamber really makes for a flavorful and hot vape, even at lower power settings.
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A properly executed Clapton will out perform a twisted wire in the flavor department any day.....it has about double the surface area of a twisted.I'm not an OG, but have already found that out. I haven't tried too many crazy builds, but I always come back to what's simple and good. Though I do prefer a simple 2 strand twisted wire most of the time, since it has better flavor to me. I'm either rocking twisted 28 kanthal, or twisted 30 nickel, depending on my mood. I also do enjoy a nice and simple 24 gauge dual build when I want something low and hot.
I just don't see the point in a clapton, or any of the others, outside of looking cool (which who cares how it looks when it's inside an atomizer and you never really see it unless you pull the top cap to drip). Surely a simple twisted wire does the same thing as a clapton, which is increase surface area and allow for juice "pockets" inside the wire to hold a bit of juice and improve wicking. Twisting is so much easier than claptons, staples and the like. I even use a coffee cup most of the time to twist my wire, so I don't have to bother with my drill. Give it a few spins until it breaks at one end, and you have a perfectly twisted wire in under a minute. But I do understand the fun, hobbyist aspect of doing more complex coils, so I'm not really hating on it. Just for my time and money, I don't often feel like messing around. I just want a great vape for as little time and money as possible. Twisted does that for me.
And for the sake of sharing, 30 gauge twisted nickel on my new (and probably my favorite) Derringer RDA. The flavor on this thing is out of this world. The small chamber really makes for a flavorful and hot vape, even at lower power settings.
Once you learn the techniques, out really doesn't take much longer either.
I agree with USM. I used to vape twisted wire a lot but immediately noticed the difference in flavor with a Clapton, especially a fused Clapton. And I even think personally that fused claptons are easier to make. Not to mention the spitback. Twisted wire has the most spitback of any "advanced build" I've ever used. I can't believe that you can use a twisted wire, spaced at that, in a mini rda like the Derringer without eating 10% of the juice you vape. And yeah, I had like a 2 week learning curve, now I can whip up a foot of fused claptons in 10 min or less. I was skeptical at first but maybe you really haven't tried them enough. I only do twisted for friends if I'm doing a free build for them. All my attys have some forms of claptons in them, with the exception of one which has tiger wire coils in it. BTW, does no one make tiger wire anymore? I've found tiger wire to be the bridge between twisted wire and claptons. More flavor than a simple twisted, more vapor production than a Clapton.I'm not an OG, but have already found that out. I haven't tried too many crazy builds, but I always come back to what's simple and good. Though I do prefer a simple 2 strand twisted wire most of the time, since it has better flavor to me. I'm either rocking twisted 28 kanthal, or twisted 30 nickel, depending on my mood. I also do enjoy a nice and simple 24 gauge dual build when I want something low and hot.
I just don't see the point in a clapton, or any of the others, outside of looking cool (which who cares how it looks when it's inside an atomizer and you never really see it unless you pull the top cap to drip). Surely a simple twisted wire does the same thing as a clapton, which is increase surface area and allow for juice "pockets" inside the wire to hold a bit of juice and improve wicking. Twisting is so much easier than claptons, staples and the like. I even use a coffee cup most of the time to twist my wire, so I don't have to bother with my drill. Give it a few spins until it breaks at one end, and you have a perfectly twisted wire in under a minute. But I do understand the fun, hobbyist aspect of doing more complex coils, so I'm not really hating on it. Just for my time and money, I don't often feel like messing around. I just want a great vape for as little time and money as possible. Twisted does that for me.
And for the sake of sharing, 30 gauge twisted nickel on my new (and probably my favorite) Derringer RDA. The flavor on this thing is out of this world. The small chamber really makes for a flavorful and hot vape, even at lower power settings.
I was initially inclined to agree with the other guy about the 90% being not as good as a simple spaced coil but I thought about it and I completely disagree. Even the fancy over the top helix, hammered, and alien wire builds while their design may be more aesthetically pleasing than practical, the same concept applies that makes the flavor inherently better than a simple coil: juice pockets and coil wicking properties. The more nooks and crannies in the coil, the more juice can get trapped inside and be vaporized at once. And then there's the temperature differences. For example in a "simple" fused Clapton, the juice gets heated by the core wires and is forced through the "screen" of the outer wraps being cooled in doing so. The result? A high temperature vape (which is well known to unveil more and deeper flavors in juice) that is cooler once it reaches your mouth.
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My 30mm Perseus. The pic is a lil fuzzy, but yes that's cotton. And yes... I know. 3mm coils, 8 wraps 28G Kanthal. Not exactly a fog machine, but that's not what a genny is all about.
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