Post pictures of your working wick and coil setup

[vapeNoob4]

Just re-wicked using Native Wick. For some reason my friend is not that popular with the wick supply company, but I find it works well regardless. Dripped so much menthol in the past week and then dripped some cream flavor had to re-wick this morning to keep things fresh. Nothing like the fresh wick pull for the first juiced hit, like magick. Pretty awesome running the sigelei on 100w. Pure pleasure. =)

 

[DaveSignal]

I like all the Velocity builds! What a great rda for building!

Here is the fused clapton I have been using recently. I just re-wicked it and took a picture. I don't often make wire like this, because it takes some time for me to do. But it certainly is a very warm vape that works great with an rda that has lots of airflow (like the Velocity). This is 24g nichrome parallel strands, wrapped with 34g kanthal.

 

[Tom Forde]

Wayyyy too many Velocity's if you ask me. My assumption is that the majority are clones, I mean **** they even made a "velocity style mini" atty now on FT.

 

[DaveSignal]

Wayyyy too many Velocity's if you ask me. My assumption is that the majority are clones, I mean **** they even made a "velocity style mini" atty now on FT.

I do own a lot of clone atomizers, but my velocity is authentic. Regardless of that though, the design of the Velocity deck makes it very easy to do more complicated wire builds.

It's the kind of RDA that provokes this kind of build. It really helps too to fully take advantage of the large chamber size and open airflow.

 

[Deap]

Another Velocity shot, basic 34/36N80 with 26 AN80 core dual staples. Dual coil at .15 ohm.

I've eyed clones at shops and they just kill it for me the authentic really is an amazing Atty. Although I'm very interested in the velocity style bottom for the Lycan RDA by CCI. I feel that airflow could be pretty sweet. Granted I think the Velocity has and lives up to it's hype because it's one of the only attys out there to incorporate the easy of two post builds with solid airflow, and two is for authentic where it is easy the cleanest piece I've ever purchased.

Also notice you bought the Petri Tom, liking it?

 

[Retro138]

After doing multiple builds on the velocity style / 2 post atty really makes want to build on the phenotype L. I think vapordna is the only place that has them right now. Man I want one, but my vape budget is in the red.

I have an authentic and 1:1 clone of the velocity and love them both. Honestly the only difference I found were the grub nuts were better quality in the authentic, so I just swapped them out for better ones. After putting it through my ultrasonic I can't tell them apart until I look on the bottom lol

 

[badinfluence357]

Just a reg coil.....

 

[Superfecta_]

Authentic Velocity owner checking in

Some aliens.

Thats about as close as I can get to 2 coils in 1 pic.

 

[SLIPPY_EEL]

Fused clapton
2x 20g A1
29g n80

0.07ohm 2.5mm id

and i dont know if many of you own one of these but its a wire vice, dead handy for for all sorts and even fits in the chuck..

 

[MacTechVpr]

Fused clapton
2x 20g A1
29g n80

0.07ohm 2.5mm id

and i dont know if many of you own one of these but its a wire vice, dead handy for for all sorts and even fits in the chuck..

Don't have one at the moment but that's an excellent example of a pin vise (the other kind). Slip if you have a link to a source appreciated. I use clamps to make fused t.m.c. flat wire but those would be far more secure. Most I find are quite clunky.

Didya ever try ceramic braid in one of those slip? Thing's churnin' some heat at the core. What are ya usin' for a wick, asbestos?

Good luck.

 

[thetrucker]

This is a velocity atomizer that I just bought and modded for bottom feed to use on my Smokless Owl Squonker.

Added internal lite.......

 

[vapeNoob4]

Wayyyy too many Velocity's if you ask me. My assumption is that the majority are clones, I mean **** they even made a "velocity style mini" atty now on FT.

This is sort of the problem I experienced getting into vaping. The vape store had aluminum clones of this atomizer you're referencing. Notice that the build quality of the unit isn't as nice with the authentic variety. Ohms go up and down and post screws aren't as tightly machined for good tolerance. But, do notice the system of wick and coil is the simplest and most drip friendly method compared to tanks with multiple parts and cleaning needs. With the wick and coil setup you can just drip whatever you want or combine juices to have unique puffs. Tanks I've been looking into but box mods and the atomizers seem to be excellent because they can be adjusted, if unit allows, for power settings and then avoiding the issues of tank systems. Fairly happy.

 

[WharfRat1976]

Nice for a first shot, when you wrap a fused Clapton, use pliers to remove the twists you get in the wire, always happens to me but they're easy to undo. Concept wire for now: View attachment 487468View attachment 487469It was originally a 24/30g 3 core alien, decored it and stretched it out a bit and kinda made it into a double suture with a staggered fused 28g/2x32g wrap & then 26g/38g suture over that. It actually fit quite nicely into the grooves, I gotta figure out what I want to do with it now.

Sickness. How's the vapeage?

 

[WharfRat1976]

Authentic Velocity owner checking in

Some aliens.

Thats about as close as I can get to 2 coils in 1 pic.

I cannot wrap an alien if my life depended on it. I burned through 100' of 36g already with ZERO SUCCESS. I have tried to wrap it around triple 26g and dual 26g. I have stretched the decore'd 36g clapton wire to the max and not stretched at all and everything in between. I have gone counter clock then clock. I have gone clock then counter clock. I have tried clock then clock. I have tried counter clock them counter clock. What am I doing wrong. It just never aliens on properly. I have tried different pressures woth no luck. I have gone super slowly no luck. What is my problem other than I have ZERO TALENT OR SKILL...

 

[Superfecta_]

I cannot wrap an alien if my life depended on it. I burned through 100' of 36g already with ZERO SUCCESS. I have tried to wrap it around triple 26g and dual 26g. I have stretched the decore'd 36g clapton wire to the max and not stretched at all and everything in between. I have gone counter clock then clock. I have gone clock then counter clock. I have tried clock then clock. I have tried counter clock them counter clock. What am I doing wrong. It just never aliens on properly. I have tried different pressures woth no luck. I have gone super slowly no luck. What is my problem other than I have ZERO TALENT OR SKILL...

Alright man, I'll try and help you. And anyone else who is struggling with these alien builds.

First off,

ZERO TALENT OR SKILL...

That's not the right attitude to have if you want to nail some of these tougher builds. It may sound cliche, but frustration really will kill any chance you have of success at these. I get frustrated some days as well. Walk away for 30 mins and relax. It will do a number for your builds.

1. I build almost exclusively with a swivel setup. I'm sure you have seen the art of vaping video on those. Buy some, they are a game changer.
2. I always do my initial clapton clockwise, and my alien wrap counter clockwise. If you have a bunch of time to dedicate to nailing this build, I recommend wrapping up 5-6 claptons and decoring them all so you don't have to pause in between attempts to remake those.
3. In my opinion, the "easiest" alien build to do is 2x26 cores, with a 34g alien wrap. For that, you will want to make your initial clapton on a 28g core. It is considerably easier to keep 2 wires parallel in the chuck while wrapping then it is 3.
4. The biggest point that I can make about this build, is a lot of it is finding that "feel". It WILL come with practice. The amount of tension while wrapping, and the amount of stretch in your decored claptons are the key. With the proper stretch in the decored clapton, when you go to alien, you can literally feel the wraps "click" into place as you are spinning the drill.
5. If your cores are overlapping while wrapping, you probably didn't stretch the decore enough. Also, putting too much tension on your wrap, while spinning the drill will cause overlap. Even with a properly stretched core.
6. If your alien just looks like a weird arched fused clapton, then you stretched too much.
7. Try wrapping only one coils worth at a time. The shorter the cores, the less likely they are to overlap on you while wrapping.

Just a few pointers, I hope it helps man. Keep at it, the first time you vape off a set of these babies you built yourself, all is worth it.

One last tip. I talked a lot about the importance of the spacing on the decored clapton. Watch Squidoode's art of vaping tutorial on the alien, and pause it when he does a macro of the stretch. It helped me a lot.

 

[Tom Forde]

Another Velocity shot, basic 34/36N80 with 26 AN80 core dual staples. Dual coil at .15 ohm.

I've eyed clones at shops and they just kill it for me the authentic really is an amazing Atty. Although I'm very interested in the velocity style bottom for the Lycan RDA by CCI. I feel that airflow could be pretty sweet. Granted I think the Velocity has and lives up to it's hype because it's one of the only attys out there to incorporate the easy of two post builds with solid airflow, and two is for authentic where it is easy the cleanest piece I've ever purchased.

Also notice you bought the Petri Tom, liking it?

Aw man I've had my Petri for a few months already, I ordered it literally 2 weeks before Dotmod announced the v1.5, and I had waited a few months before ordering it. Lol that's my luck. But I love the thing. It's my daily carry atty.

I cannot wrap an alien if my life depended on it. I burned through 100' of 36g already with ZERO SUCCESS. I have tried to wrap it around triple 26g and dual 26g. I have stretched the decore'd 36g clapton wire to the max and not stretched at all and everything in between. I have gone counter clock then clock. I have gone clock then counter clock. I have tried clock then clock. I have tried counter clock them counter clock. What am I doing wrong. It just never aliens on properly. I have tried different pressures woth no luck. I have gone super slowly no luck. What is my problem other than I have ZERO TALENT OR SKILL...

What I do is I flip my drill, go counterclockwise first (because I'm more comfortable wrapping the alien clockwise), decore it, and the. Stretch the decored Clapton NOT to the max.

I stretch it so it has teeth about 1mm apart from each other. When you stretch it out too much, you're not going to get that alien shape you want. If you're working with 26/36g, 36g is easy enough to re-stretch if you don't stretch it far enough.

Try to Clapton about 8" CCW, decore it, and stretch it to about just under arms length and 3 core wrap it while keeping tension on the wrap the whole time you are doing the alien.
Just remember patience is key in learning this coil. If you have to go so slow that you're spinning the chuck by hand then do that. I've done a few times haha

the coiled alien is 26/32g 3 core 3mm, wire not yet wrapped is some wicked looking 3 core 28/34g with a 38g stitch.

Sickness. How's the vapeage?

Dunno yet, I coiled up 4 wraps so far, I'm calling it a crown coil, cause the spaces alien wraps look like a crown when coiled up
@Superfecta_ which app did you use to edit your pics?
Edit: speaking of the velocity, my father just ordered 2 clones on fast tech lol. Looks like I'll be using one too. And Slip, that coil is a monster. Maybe I'll polish up & sand some 18g & fuse it with 40g lol

 

[EverPresentNoob]

so for the initial clapton, its a single 26G core, then you decore it stretch it adn wrap the otherway around 2 28G cores?

 

[Tom Forde]

so for the initial clapton, its a single 26G core, then you decore it stretch it adn wrap the otherway around 2 28G cores?

Err no. For the concept wire I was using it was a 3 core 24/30g decored alien stretched out. First I put 2 strands of 28g in & fused them with 2x32g (all scrap wire I had lying around, short pieces of this and that), then I put a single strand 26 through it and sutured it to the fused 28g making it kinda like a stagger fused suture in the order 30g,32g,38g,32g,30g and it looks like this:

For a normal alien (if that's what you were asking about) what I do is take about an 8-10" piece of whatever gauge I'm using say 26g, Clapton wire around it counterclockwise and remove the 26g core. Once I have the Clapton off the core, I stretch it to my arms length which is roughly a little bit over 6 feet, so it has nice defined ridges that aren't too flat. Then I take one end of the wrap and 3 strands of 26g and I'll do the first few wraps clockwise by hand, and stick it in the chuck. Then I start spinning the drill clockwise really slowly while keeping a decent amount of tension on the wire I'm wrapping up the 3 26g cores with.
If I were doing a 28g alien I'd start out with a 28g core. It's a 3:1 ratio for the core wire. But with interlocking and stitched aliens, depending on the wrap gauge and stitch, I'll either use 2 or 3 cores of whatever gauge I started with.

 

[EverPresentNoob]

I was asking about just a simple alien. Not even gonna try the stitched until I can bake a basic Aileen. ok, so its single core to begone with, then three cores revers direction for the final. Gonna try this again tinight. So far I think I have gone through almost 200 feet of 34g trying to figure these out... Oh well. Wire is cheap.


Edit: Im realizing my spellcheck is messing with me today. Oh well. im not even gonna fix it.

 

[Superfecta_]

Well I just surprised myself with how well this turned out. This is 2x26n80 alien'd w/ 34ka1 and stitched w/ 40n80 lightly flattened.
Going to try and do 26/36/40 now. Fun stuff.