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Here was todays project. This vapes awesome. It's an arched clapton. 4x28n80 cores, 36n80 arch. Dual 6 wraps on a twisted messes is like .11Ω Blurry as .... glow shot, I have a hard time with them. Seriously looking at a new camera. Specifically the Samsung NX3000. Any opinions?

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Here was todays project. This vapes awesome. It's an arched clapton. 4x28n80 cores, 36n80 arch. Dual 6 wraps on a twisted messes is like .11Ω Blurry as .... glow shot, I have a hard time with them. Seriously looking at a new camera. Specifically the Samsung NX3000. Any opinions?

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When you make your fused claptons you can leave it in the drill then grab the end of it with your pliers and take out most of the twist by using the drill ;)
Sometimes with long lengths of fused Claptons & thinner gauged fused Claptons if you make a mistake and reverse the drill to fix it, the wires twist clockwise & counterclockwise. What the hell do I do then?!?!?!
@Superfecta_ opinions? You arched it the wrong way!o_O I'm just playin man looks good. Could use a bit more arch though haha
 
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You arched it the wrong way!o_O

Damn it, I hoped no one would notice. Oops.
That thing was such a ..... to wrap and mount. I noticed after the first coil was mounted and said the heck with it. The 36 arches were hard to work with... really hard. Could hardy touch the decored clapton with a pliers without collapsing it.

As far as taking twists out of fused claptons by reversing the drill, I don't do it. I found it to loosen the outer wrap. I ALWAYS use 2x nylon jaw pliers to remove the twists. Remember, it doesn't have to be 100% perfect. When you go to wrap multi core claptons, the wires want to lay straight by themselves, and any small twists will lay flat by themselves when you wrap it tightly.

I may be a minority here, but everything I wrap is super tight. Like really really tight. I seen in some recent posts about how some of you guys just "slide your wraps together" when they get spaced and I'm like o_O
I can't do that with anything I wrap. I wrap my aliens so tight I doubt I could decore them. I also don't stretch my decored alien much at all and let it stretch as it's wrapping. Looks so much cleaner that way. You can't tell my 36g aliens are aliens from a foot away.

What the hell do I do then?!?!?!
Easy, just don't make a mistake to begin with :evil:
In all seriousness, I always fuse with swivels, so If i overlap a little, the tension I'm pulling on the core allows me to reverse as much as I like without any issues.
Just a fun tidbit, I always fuse right off the spool, holding the spool right on my belt usually, about 2 feet away from the counter that I have my vice/drill on... I find it a lot easier to fuse perfect and at full speed at that angle. I also wrap aliens like that, holding the decored clapton about 2 feet from where the wrap is happening.... Whatever works, works. Right?
 
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Sometimes you gotta keep things simple; especially when your drill is busted. On the flip side, I feel the consistency of the wrap came out really well without the sub-standard speed control my drill had. I'm not gonna miss that piece of junk drill for sure.
Its .25mm over .3 I use UD kanthal wire so I don't keep track of the approx. AWG. This coil is 1.5 ohms on the nose.
 

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Damn it, I hoped no one would notice. Oops.
That thing was such a ..... to wrap and mount. I noticed after the first coil was mounted and said the heck with it. The 36 arches were hard to work with... really hard. Could hardy touch the decored clapton with a pliers without collapsing it.

As far as taking twists out of fused claptons by reversing the drill, I don't do it. I found it to loosen the outer wrap. I ALWAYS use 2x nylon jaw pliers to remove the twists. Remember, it doesn't have to be 100% perfect. When you go to wrap multi core claptons, the wires want to lay straight by themselves, and any small twists will lay flat by themselves when you wrap it tightly.

I may be a minority here, but everything I wrap is super tight. Like really really tight. I seen in some recent posts about how some of you guys just "slide your wraps together" when they get spaced and I'm like o_O
I can't do that with anything I wrap. I wrap my aliens so tight I doubt I could decore them. I also don't stretch my decored alien much at all and let it stretch as it's wrapping. Looks so much cleaner that way. You can't tell my 36g aliens are aliens from a foot away.


Easy, just don't make a mistake to begin with :evil:
In all seriousness, I always fuse with swivels, so If i overlap a little, the tension I'm pulling on the core allows me to reverse as much as I like without any issues.
Just a fun tidbit, I always fuse right off the spool, holding the spool right on my belt usually, about 2 feet away from the counter that I have my vice/drill on... I find it a lot easier to fuse perfect and at full speed at that angle. I also wrap aliens like that, holding the decored clapton about 2 feet from where the wrap is happening.... Whatever works, works. Right?
Haha I know what to do when I wrap my coils i was just in an odd mood last night, I never go past 32g with Arched Claptons because of that reason, it's too hard to get the arch with anything past it without fully collapsing the wire. What you could do is put 30g or 32g inside and try arching it along that & lightly hammering. I wrap my coils super super tight too, I try not to have any slack in them because it kinda changes the inner diameter if it's a loose wrap. And I know how to take my twists out of my fused Claptons :D Any alien 36g & up I stretch to about 5 feet and I let the cores do the rest of the work. When the wire is that thin, it fits itself along the core wire after I do the first few wraps by hand
And on decoring an alien, believe me. I was fighting that wire for about a half hour with pliers trying to pull a wire out. Finally I got one to come out but the other two were still in there pretty tight.
 
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I am using 36g decor'd off 24g. It comes right off the core. Still do not have an alien I am not embarrassed to post. Grrrrrr.
Pics...what gauge did you try to alien it around? Can't help if we don't see what's going wrong for ya.
I'd go with a lower gauge for the alien to practice with like 30g or 32g around 26g.
Speaking of aliens I just finished making my second 28g/38g 3 core for my next Petri build
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in person you can't actually tell they're aliens until you get right up close to them. And let me just say, 38g is very easy to work with because not much tension is needed to wrap around the 3 cores, but it takes a ton of patience and a while to actually wrap up.
 
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Heyup Superfecta my alien wraps dont really want to move once seated but i leave the wire in the drill and use a set of pliers on the end and a set to get things moving which isnt easy but sometimes once you get it moving you can snug the final bit using thumb nail & as you can tell from my aliens it doesnt distort the shape, i can see what your saying about you wouldnt be able to decore the alien as some parts of mine wont move atall.
 
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Heyup Superfecta my alien wraps dont really want to move once seated but i leave the wire in the drill and use a set of pliers on the end and a set to get things moving which isnt easy but sometimes once you get it moving you can snug the final bit using thumb nail & as you can tell from my aliens it doesnt distort the shape, i can see what your saying about you wouldnt be able to decore the alien as some parts of mine wont move atall.
Yeah it's really hard to decore an alien once you start wrapping it, the grooves in the decored Clapton kinda latch onto the side wires and the middle is fixed in place by them. The one time I did decore an alien (3x24 core 30g wrap), I pulled the middle wire out with one set of pliers while holding onto the other 2 wires with another set of pliers. But if you're talking about decoring a Clapton, all you have to do is stick the other end of the core into the chuck, clip the end that was in the chuck so it's straight (don't clip the Clapton lead) and spin your drill while holding the core as if you were straightening wire. Give it a 5 second full speed spin and pull on the core, it'll stretch it out a bit, and then with your fingers grab the end of the Clapton that's closest to the chuck and just guide it off.

Someone give me a suggestion for a build on the 528 customs Monster V2 currently in vapemail. Thin gauge is a must, I don't wanna spend forever tryin to trap leads under tiny Kayfun screws...I've done it before, total *****
 
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Pics...what gauge did you try to alien it around? Can't help if we don't see what's going wrong for ya.
I'd go with a lower gauge for the alien to practice with like 30g or 32g around 26g.
Speaking of aliens I just finished making my second 28g/38g 3 core for my next Petri build View attachment 488804 in person you can't actually tell they're aliens until you get right up close to them. And let me just say, 38g is very easy to work with because not much tension is needed to wrap around the 3 cores, but it takes a ton of patience and a while to actually wrap up.
Great looking wraps. Looks like one of your core wires "unflattened."
 

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Great looking wraps. Looks like one of your core wires "unflattened."
? Nah that's just a twist I got while making it, like a twist in a fused Clapton, but everything's legit. Once I wrap them they'll be flush and good. I'm just sick of aliens, I made 8x foot long segments of 26/32 & 5 more of 26/34 to sell tomorrow. $15 a pair, and I usually get 3 coils off 12". I'm really sick of aliens right now, and building in general so I'm probably gonna take a few days off, but when my monster v2 tank comes in I'm gonna need something to build for it..something thin gauge.
 
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i use n60 for the aliens not n80, n80 is quite a bit softer and the wire sinks into it a bit more, i presume you guys are using 80? :)

Hey Tom have you tried your hand at a slentre braid yet? its a nice looker, i havent quite got the time for a loop braid atm but ima try this one vsoon
 
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? Nah that's just a twist I got while making it, like a twist in a fused Clapton, but everything's legit. Once I wrap them they'll be flush and good. I'm just sick of aliens, I made 8x foot long segments of 26/32 & 5 more of 26/34 to sell tomorrow. $15 a pair, and I usually get 3 coils off 12". I'm really sick of aliens right now, and building in general so I'm probably gonna take a few days off, but when my monster v2 tank comes in I'm gonna need something to build for it..something thin gauge.
LOL...I'm sick of em too...and I haven't even wrapped one yet lol...
 

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LOL...I'm sick of em too...and I haven't even wrapped one yet lol...
Post a pic of one of your failiens and we can help you and let you know what to change so you can get it down right
@SLIPPY_EEL i have not tried a slentre braid yet but I've done 4 & 5 loop braids, mostly caged or side braid or split braid. And yeah I use N80 because of the softness, but I've also used N60, honestly there's not too much a difference at 32g. Kanthal on the other hand is stiff in comparison.
 
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Post a pic of one of your failiens and we can help you and let you know what to change so you can get it down right
@SLIPPY_EEL i have not tried a slentre braid yet but I've done 4 & 5 loop braids, mostly caged or side braid or split braid. And yeah I use N80 because of the softness, but I've also used N60, honestly there's not too much a difference at 32g. Kanthal on the other hand is stiff in comparison.

Ah Tom i was talking of the 3 internal wires, it is why i am able to slightly move some of the alien wraps.

Anyway's i been doing some other build's but i took the pics to an edit program and i dont like the way they came out but i'll post them anyway, i think it made them to dark & a little blurry but it is what it is and i deleted the original's ...


And this was a test run at the slentre braid but the ribbon skewed on me as i tightened the vice but i went with it just to get the braid under my belt...
 

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Ah Tom i was talking of the 3 internal wires, it is why i am able to slightly move some of the alien wraps.

Anyway's i been doing some other build's but i took the pics to an edit program and i dont like the way they came out but i'll post them anyway, i think it made them to dark & a little blurry but it is what it is and i deleted the original's ...


And this was a test run at the slentre braid but the ribbon skewed on me as i tightened the vice but i went with it just to get the braid under my belt...
If you're using an iPhone or android edit program, what i usually do is drop the highlights about half way and raise the shadows until you can see most if not all parts of the coil/wire
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also make sure your ISO/lighting balance/focus is directed towards the coil, when they're super black, it's hard to pick up detail on them. That is if you're broke like me and can't afford a super cool D-SLR camera. I'm limited to an iPhone 5s & $3.46 generic phone camera macro clip from amazon lol.
Wire above is a half staple stagger fused with 26g/32g N80 & 3x .6x.07mm 2x .5x.2mm KA1 ribbons fused with 40g inside the grooves of the 32g. I wish I could get better pic quality but I'm upgrading my phone when my plan is up in December and will just have to wait til then. As for the wire I don't know whether I want to wrap it horizontally or vertically.
 
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