Provari on an Oscope vs Vamo

[GrimmTech]

Just emailed Kanthal corporation. Gave a good explination of whats going on. Waiting a response on how fast their wire would change temps in a pg/vg saturation.

Ill post the results.
Grimm

 

[denali_41]

Its funny watching the non provari believers try to justify their cheapy china mods ,Even with non-debatable charts provided

Some people will just never "get it" !!

 

[Day]

Its funny watching the non provari believers try to justify their cheapy china mods ,Even with non-debatable charts provided

Some people will just never "get it" !!

If "it" is an arrogant attitude because your PV cost more than mine, that causes you to ignore simple physics, then I don't want "it"

 

[denali_41]

If "it" is an arrogant attitude because your PV cost more than mine, that causes you to ignore simple physics, then I don't want "it"

uuuuuu did we wake up on the wrong side of life today

 

[Stephenst4470]

Its funny watching the non provari believers try to justify their cheapy china mods ,Even with non-debatable charts provided

Some people will just never "get it" !!

You're ridiculous, I have 2 Provaris,
They're great devices, but neither of mine have yet to mow my grass, do my dishes or wash my car.
It's funny watching you ridicule anything that's NOT a Provari.
This love affair that you have with a long, cylindrical object makes me wonder if yours does something for you other than provide a power source for your atomizer.

 

[PLANofMAN]

If "it" is an arrogant attitude because your PV cost more than mine, that causes you to ignore simple physics, then I don't want "it"

I detect subtle symptoms of Mod envy. No one is forcing you to buy a ProVari. Or even to want a ProVari. I own a Vamo. I like my Vamo. Do I think it's in the same class as a ProVari? No. Are you going to throw your Vamo away because a ProVari owner owns and likes one too? Probably not.

Are you going to throw it away at some point? Oh yes. Yes you will. Because it will break, sooner or later. They all break...

But I can get my ProVari repaired.

 

[Day]

Has nothing to do with mod envy, I could buy 12 provaris if I wanted. I was responding to this broseph:

Its funny watching the non provari believers try to justify their cheapy china mods ,Even with non-debatable charts provided

Some people will just never "get it" !!

 

[Buzzsaw46]

Has nothing to do with mod envy, I could buy 12 provaris if I wanted. I was responding to this broseph:

You only need one they don't break like the cheap China mods.

 

[Stephenst4470]

I detect subtle symptoms of Mod envy. No one is forcing you to buy a ProVari. Or even to want a ProVari. I own a Vamo. I like my Vamo. Do I think it's in the same class as a ProVari? No. Are you going to throw your Vamo away because a ProVari owner owns and likes one too? Probably not.

Are you going to throw it away at some point? Oh yes. Yes you will. Because it will break, sooner or later. They all break...

But I can get my ProVari repaired.

My Provari's are certainly in a different build class than my Vamo, they definitely feel much better in the hand, but the idea that they magically make vaporized VG/PG taste better is pure silliness.
I have all kinds of mods because I have enough expendable income to try out a lot of them, plus my wife vapes so it gives me an excuse to buy even more so she has her own collection. But it does get old seeing people post this crap to people who can't afford or choose not to buy a $200 battery tube. For the price of a Provari they can buy 5 Vamos. I use my Chinese mods quite a bit and have yet to have one spontaneously combust, fall apart in my hand, or melt and ooze to the floor.

 

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I don't need any, all my stuff is working great.

 

[Stephenst4470]

I detect subtle symptoms of Mod envy. No one is forcing you to buy a ProVari. Or even to want a ProVari. I own a Vamo. I like my Vamo. Do I think it's in the same class as a ProVari? No. Are you going to throw your Vamo away because a ProVari owner owns and likes one too? Probably not.

Are you going to throw it away at some point? Oh yes. Yes you will. Because it will break, sooner or later. They all break...

But I can get my ProVari repaired.

And let's not act like getting a Provari repaired is free after the warranty expires, getting your Provari repaired costs more than buying a whole replacement Vamo. I also have a Buzz Pro, another really nice American made mod, getting just the circuit board replaced on that after the warranty expires costs as much as a Vamo from China with shipping.

 

[PLANofMAN]

Has nothing to do with mod envy, I could buy 12 provaris if I wanted. I was responding to this broseph:

As someone pointed out to me earlier, if you want a one on one conversation, use the PM function. I wish I could afford 12 ProVari's.

As a side note, and not really related, you should check out the 510 to eGo adapter from ProVape. It's adjustable and it's not made from potmetal, so it works better with iclears and stuff. It does cost a bit more than the cheapy chromed Chinese adapters, but the threads won't break off. But as you pointed out, you can easily afford it. It really is the best eGo adapter out there.

 

[Buzzsaw46]

Standard Service Repair Costs

Replace Window and screws- $10.00
Replace Tube - $40.00
Replace Circuit Board - $65.00
Upgrade to V2 - $20.00
Replace plastic pushbutton - $5.00
Repairs to the circuit board - $25.00
Cleaning - $10.00
Replace top cap - $15.00
Broken Cartomizer Service - $10.00


Return shipping within the USA - $5.00
Return shipping International ~$39.00

There are only two repairs listed that would cost as much as a vamo. It would take a major incident to require a new tube, not sure how often a replacement board would be needed instead of just a board repair, but I would guess it would take a cracked board to require a new board.

 

[skoot]

I have a home electronic repair hobby business. Prohibitively expensive for a vaper is not so far out of range for an electronic repair guy. I will have to check if my fluke will read RMS. Not that I really need one since I have two oscopes lol. One thing I would like to have that I do not is a signal injector, or variable AC power supply with varriable frequency.

I have the variac but not the scopes!

 

[PLANofMAN]

My Provari's are certainly in a different build class than my Vamo, they definitely feel much better in the hand, but the idea that they magically make vaporized VG/PG taste better is pure silliness.
I have all kinds of mods because I have enough expendable income to try out a lot of them, plus my wife vapes so it gives me an excuse to buy even more so she has her own collection. But it does get old seeing people post this crap to people who can't afford or choose not to buy a $200 battery tube. For the price of a Provari they can buy 5 Vamos. I use my Chinese mods quite a bit and have yet to have one spontaneously combust, fall apart in my hand, or melt and ooze to the floor.

Where do people keep pulling this $200 figure from? That isn't how much a ProVari costs. Not to mention you can sometimes find a used V1 for $100.

And let's not act like getting a Provari repaired is free after the warranty expires, getting your Provari repaired costs more than buying a whole replacement Vamo. I also have a Buzz Pro, another really nice American made mod, getting just the circuit board replaced on that after the warranty expires costs as much as a Vamo from China with shipping.

Again, with the wrong figures. I haven't heard of anyone needing to replace the circuit board, but you are right, a Version 1 to Version 2 upgrade will cost you about $65. Having anything else done to it is much, much cheaper. Here's the full list:

Replace Window and screws- $10.00
Replace Tube - $40.00
Replace Circuit Board - $65.00
Upgrade to V2 - $20.00
Replace plastic pushbutton - $5.00
Repairs to the circuit board - $25.00
Cleaning - $10.00
Replace top cap - $15.00
Broken Cartomizer Service - $10.00

Return shipping within the USA - $5.00
Return shipping International ~$39.00

Edit: Oops. I was wrong a V1 to V2 upgrade is $20, my bad.
Edit 2: Buzzsaw beat me with the prices! Darn. Oh well...

 

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And one would have to break 4-5 Vamos to hit the original cost of your Provari, but none of this has anything to do with the thread really. Cost is not even an issue here and has nothing to do with the voltage AVG/coil temps of Provari vs Vamo. If a new user reads page one of this thread they would actually believe they are going to get hot juice/cold juice with the Vamo, when that is not at all what happens. Which is my whole beef with the thread and discussion within. Information is great. Provaris are great. Vamos are great. Misinformation is what I frown upon.

 

[tnt56]

Ok i'll chime in again. I got the vamo's, provair's, and a new Tesla, and a lava tube. I'll go for the 800 htz over the 37 htz anyday of the week.
For the facts I'll still defend the SB with a kick installed. Yep pain to adjust but I know my favorite wattage and that's all that counts to me. You want you electric into you house running at 37 htz or the normal 60 htz?
Just my but I like the constent flow of power. I don't understand why they have to do a PWM, in the first place. It's a DC current. Let it be adjusted for the direct current the battery provides. That goes for all the VV/VW mods. Just fire it and make it stay where it is. When the Battery dies then change it.

 

[junkman]

The following post is the most anti-provari post I have ever made. Normally, I get into these "discussions" from just calling out the BS, but don't really criticize Provari at all. But all this "mod envy" and crap about people trying to justify their cheap chineses junk against a provari is enough that I want to make it clear.

Provari is a great device. ESPECIALLY for those who only want one device or one main device with ego back up etc. People who want to buy a main device and keep it for years with no need for another. For such people, economically, it may be the cheapest device for them over the long term. It certainly isn't anything that inspires "envy" in today's vape market. If you think it is, you are fooling yourself.

Despite my respect for what provari is, if I were to make a list of mods I want to buy, it isn't on it regardless of price. If I could pick one up for the price of a VAMO, I might. But at this point probably not. I have enough different vaping devices that I have no concerns for the reliability, ruggedness or repairability of any single device. Pretty much all my devices do what they are supposed to do and I take care of what I have.

Any new device that I buy that is going to be more than about $50 needs to be more interesting to me. Something like the Billet Box or something from Kato or that other korean mod with all the cool laser designs, a caravella or some such.

Why would I buy a provari when it just isn't that interesting, and I don't have any need for another vaping device that isn't interesting? I probably wont be buying another VAMO either, although you can get them for about $40. I definitely won't be buying an evic. I just don't see buying more boring VV/VW devices, and if I do, I won't be spending over $50 for them.

Now if provari came out with a new device that had their legendary reliablity and service along with the evic screen, upgrade ability, VW, VAMO type button controls and a more interesting body, I might get excited. But the current version? eh

 

[junkman]

And one would have to break 4-5 Vamos to hit the original cost of your Provari, but none of this has anything to do with the thread really. Cost is not even an issue here and has nothing to do with the voltage AVG/coil temps of Provari vs Vamo. If a new user reads page one of this thread they would actually believe they are going to get hot juice/cold juice with the Vamo, when that is not at all what happens. Which is my whole beef with the thread and discussion within. Information is great. Provaris are great. Vamos are great. Misinformation is what I frown upon.

Exactly



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[PLANofMAN]

Sorry, Junkman,couldn't resist. You have seen Kato's TeleVari's, right?