provari ...... or .....lavatube

[Izord]

Provari was good for late 2010. The Infinity pro is a more recent design, smaller, has more power output, batteries last two to three times as long, more efficient regulator, MUCH better ergonomics, and is the current leader in tech. The IP is also significantly less overpriced.

The Provari will only fire with certain cartos. The Infinity Pro can use anything availiable from 1.2 Ohm and up.

Can't recommend a Provari at this point in the tech cycle.

 

[RichyV]

I have a provari, I love it, it is of the highest quality, yesterday I had a hold of a lavatube it feels cheap, I doubt it would last half as long as a provari, I'm sure it works just as well, but for how long? At the end of the day you get what you pay for.

 

[Izord]

Read on various forums about quality issues with the provari's. Many people have had problems with the window getting pushed in to the body by their thumb. Perhaps they have correct this design flaw.
Provari Flaw... - Vapor Talk E Cig Forum

The Infinity has a simpler ergonomic design that is easier and faster to use. It won't limit you to using 'certain' cartos. More efficient with significantly longer battery life. It's smaller and lighter, and it's quality surpasses the Provari.

Battery 'tightness' in the tube depends on the thicknes of the battery wrapper. On any tube PV if you experience 'rattling' correct it with a single sheet from a small notepad. Roll it into a tube and insert into the PV body. Then insert batteries.

If you would like to justify buying obsolete technology please focus your attention on the 'battery tightness' issue and disregard the design flaws and obsolescenc of the Provari, you will feel better about your Provari.

I have a provari, I love it, it is of the highest quality, yesterday I had a hold of a lavatube it feels cheap, I doubt it would last half as long as a provari, I'm sure it works just as well, but for how long? At the end of the day you get what you pay for.

 

[MustangSallie]

I would never recommend an Infinity Pro over a ProVari except for size, which is the only reason I bought one for my husband. Otherwise there is no comparison. I might even recommend a lava before I would recommend an iPro. To be able to dial in the exact voltage you want for your given ohms is wonderful without having to throw a voltage meter on your PV, can't do that with an iPro. You can turn the ProVari off, can't do that with the iPro. You can check how many ohms your atty or carto is, can't do that with an iPro. You can check the life of your battery with the ProVari, can't do that with the iPro. How is the iPro ahead of the ProVari in technology?

I also don't understand all this upset about a ProVari not working with LR. That's correct, a ProVari won't work with a LR atty or carto at around 4.0 volts or higher. Why is that an issue, unless you want to vape at some outrageously high wattage? Most people don't. Just use an atty rated at 2.0 ohms or higher and you can vape it at any voltage setting.

 

[Izord]

I would never recommend an Infinity Pro over a ProVari except for size, which is the only reason I bought one for my husband.

I would never recommend a ProVari over an Infinity Pro, unless you really like Light Sabers.

To be able to dial in the exact voltage you want for your given ohms is wonderful without having to throw a voltage meter on your PV, can't do that with an iPro.

Sallie that's just not correct. On an Infinity Pro here's how you dial it in. First put on ANY carto. From 1.2 ohm on up. Then turn the dial to desired hit. If it's too hot turn it down. If it's too cool turn it up. Problem?

You can turn the ProVari off, can't do that with the iPro.

Incorrect, Sallie to turn off the iPro you turn the bottom 1/4 turn. Simple elegant design, Delrin surface over metal threads makes the bottom into a rotary switch.

You can check how many ohms your atty or carto is, can't do that with an iPro.

Correct, with the caveat that with the iPro it doesn't matter what ohms your carto or atty is because it can use ANY. (See hit control)

How is the iPro ahead of the ProVari in technology?

1. Higher power output, 3 amps vs. 2.5 amps.

2. Buck regulator vs. Boost regulator. About three times the efficiency and battery life. Less wasted heat. Vape three times as long without charging batteries.

3. Better ergonomics. Dial adjustment is faster and more intuitive than buttons.

4. Fewer quality issues, better power button, fewer returns, fewer parts to break.

5. No error codes.

6. Sale Price with Batteries and charger: Provari $211.95 Infinity Pro $109.95.

7. Smaller, lighter, more powerful, simpler, less expensive, easier to use, more flexible and more efficient equals technological advancement.

I also don't understand all this upset about a ProVari not working with LR. That's correct, a ProVari won't work with a LR atty or carto at around 4.0 volts or higher.

Sorry you 'don't understand' why limitations are a limitation. Many of us would like to use our favorite LR DC carto that we may have on hand, or just 'want to'.

Why is that an issue, unless you want to vape at some outrageously high wattage? Most people don't.

You don't know? Wattage equals power, and all else being equal power equal vapor production. If you want maximum clouds of vapor production on a good setup, you need the maximum power your PV can provide. The IP pushes more amps and watts than the Provari.

I'm going to disregard the 'outrageous' and the 'most people' part.

 

[frosting]

Dun dun dun! Provari Vs Lavatube Battle! I predicted this!



& I also am under the suspicion(just a feeling, don't hate me for saying this) that there are undercover provape folks making dummy accounts to talk trash about Lavatube and praise Provari. Saying no names, just too many people(brand spanking new accounts, no posts mind you) out of NO WHERE all of a sudden " OMG, i just bought this Provari it's sooo great". Don't get me wrong, I'm sure Provari ARE excellent It's just odd. I don't remember so much hoopla about them when I first started up here on ECF. It's been like Provari pandemonium as the Lavatube's debut came closer and closer.

 

[Izord]

What's the power output of the lavatube? Amp cutoff ect? What type of regulator?

Is it made in China?

 

[speedemon]

What's the power output of the lavatube? Amp cutoff ect? What type of regulator?

Is it made in China?

Same cutoff as provari 2.5 don't no why anyone would want higher unless you like burned stuff not me like the protection makes cartos and attys last longer.You can put the lavatube up to 6v on a lr atty it will work but protection puts the volts down to a safe volt on it's own not at 6.Ware the provari gives you a error code so you then turn it down in volts.Like i said this is a good thing unless you want to burn crap up.Yes the lavatube is made in China.Shure the provari is much better built and more options.I've bought 3 provaris never seen ware the window could be pushed in as mentioned in another post.If you have the funds and can aford it i feel the provari to be the best imop.

 

[Bo2121]

Love lava tube

 

[Bo2121]

But provaril is nice

 

[Bo2121]

My buzz pro rocks too though

 

[Izord]

Keep thinking that, or learn how to set up a tank with a properly feeding carto when you want more vapor. Mine doesn't burn at 3 amps, just produces clouds of wonderful vapor.

Same cutoff as provari 2.5 don't no why anyone would want higher unless you like burned stuff not me like the protection makes cartos and attys last longer.You can put the lavatube up to 6v on a lr atty it will work but protection puts the volts down to a safe volt on it's own not at 6.Ware the provari gives you a error code so you then turn it down in volts.Like i said this is a good thing unless you want to burn crap up.Yes the lavatube is made in China.Shure the provari is much better built and more options.I've bought 3 provaris never seen ware the window could be pushed in as mentioned in another post.If you have the funds and can aford it i feel the provari to be the best imop.

 

[MustangSallie]

I would never recommend a ProVari over an Infinity Pro, unless you really like Light Sabers.

My husband calls it a flashlight. I could care less what anyone calls it. It works and it works well.

Sallie that's just not correct. On an Infinity Pro here's how you dial it in. First put on ANY carto. From 1.2 ohm on up. Then turn the dial to desired hit. If it's too hot turn it down. If it's too cool turn it up. Problem?

Yes, big problem. When I want my pear at 3.8 volts and my black raspberry a 4.2 volts, I don't want to be turning a dial in itsy bitsy increments, up... down... up... down... Oh, there is! Finally, only took 5 minutes this time!



Incorrect, Sallie to turn off the iPro you turn the bottom 1/4 turn. Simple elegant design, Delrin surface over metal threads makes the bottom into a rotary switch.

Seriously?


Correct, with the caveat that with the iPro it doesn't matter what ohms your carto or atty is because it can use ANY. (See hit control)

Well, see it does matter. I don't want to put a 2.0 ohm atty on my pv and try and chase my preferred wattage. So much nicer to read the ohms, set the volts (precisely) and ahhhh.... perfect watts = perfect vape!

1. Higher power output, 3 amps vs. 2.5 amps. Not sure why this is important, but you seem to think it is, so I'm sure it is.

2. Buck regulator vs. Boost regulator. About three times the efficiency and battery life. Less wasted heat. Vape three times as long without charging batteries. So, two days on one battery isn't long enough?

3. Better ergonomics. Dial adjustment is faster and more intuitive than buttons. For you perhaps.

4. Fewer quality issues, better power button, fewer returns, fewer parts to break. Did I mention that the top of my husband's iPro started to unscrew after one week? Did I mention that I dropped my ProVari 3 times with no issues? Oh, and what about the guy who bought and Infinity 9 months ago but can't get the warranty honored because the module isn't being produced anymore?

5. No error codes. I never get them because I know how to use it.

6. Sale Price with Batteries and charger: Provari $211.95 Infinity Pro $109.95. Well at least we agree on one thing. You get what you pay for.

7. Smaller, lighter, more powerful, simpler, less expensive, easier to use, more flexible and more efficient equals technological advancement.

Skinner but taller. Falls over with a tank on the top of it. Harder to find the perfect voltage, thus the perfect vape. Have to make sure the atty connector is screwed in tight all the time, or else the wires could break if it comes unscrewed. All this makes it harder to use thus less flexible which equals an inferior product in my eyes.


Nice try though.


Sorry you 'don't understand' why limitations are a limitation. Many of us would like to use our favorite LR DC carto that we may have on hand, or just 'want to'.

There really is no answer to this. I understand limitations perfectly, just don't agree with you that this particular limitation is a reason to buy an inferior product. Since it's really all about watts and not ohms and volts, it seems to me that 99% of vapers could easily find their perfect vape using a ProVari. Is that really limited? Oh wait, I guess that was an answer.

You don't know? Wattage equals power, and all else being equal power equal vapor production. If you want maximum clouds of vapor production on a good setup, you need the maximum power your PV can provide. The IP pushes more amps and watts than the Provari.

You could be right about that, but I have a side by side comparison right here in my home. I can assure you that I am the one who is filling the room with clouds of vapor.

I'm going to disregard the 'outrageous' and the 'most people' part.

Oh? Why stop now. You were on such a roll!

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[Izord]

.....bla, bla, bla..............

Sally, Sally. You like buttons and I guess I pushed yours.

Yes, seriously the IP is better and faster than the Provari.

And you need a digital display to tell you that you got a good hit.

And you don't like rotary switches. Or maybe don't understand the concept.

You do know that the IP is available with your choice of connector. You don't like 510, order an 808 or a 901. Replaceable by the way. Um, that's more flexible, not less. Tell your husband to screw his back on.

The IP is half the weight of the Provari, not just slimmer. Or maybe you need the 'heft' and 'girth' for something...? Like clubbing people with your flashlight? Oh, kudos on the red font. Made your response much more intelligent.

I bet you'd like the Provari 18650 Tube extension, so you can use a REALLY big battery and get SUPER long battery life. (You'd have more 'length' then as well) You vape 'pear'. lol

And brilliant summary, The Provari magically produces more vapor with less power. That works how exactly?

Go ahead and advise the newbies to buy last year's American model dinosaur when there's a cheaper Chinese knockoff copy available. Just duck your head when Provape finally releases the pending new model in a month or two. Too bad notcigs has patent pending on the buck regulator.

You're in love with a flashlite. We get that. : )

 

[ambientech]

Too bad notcigs has patent pending on the buck regulator.

You need to get your facts straight. Notcig is trying to patent vv e-cig not the buck regulator. They can't patent something they didn't design.....

 

[jherron]

what does it matter if x is better than y , use what you like . sounds like children on the playground in here . "my dad can beat up your dad"

 

[santi]

if money is not an option to you, Get the Provari, it has proven its worth and already made a good mark in the ecig market not to mention the good after sales support from Provape

Goodluck!

 

[RippleInStillWater]

Dun dun dun! Provari Vs Lavatube Battle! I predicted this!



& I also am under the suspicion(just a feeling, don't hate me for saying this) that there are undercover provape folks making dummy accounts to talk trash about Lavatube and praise Provari. Saying no names, just too many people(brand spanking new accounts, no posts mind you) out of NO WHERE all of a sudden " OMG, i just bought this Provari it's sooo great". Don't get me wrong, I'm sure Provari ARE excellent It's just odd. I don't remember so much hoopla about them when I first started up here on ECF. It's been like Provari pandemonium as the Lavatube's debut came closer and closer.

That's why I stay out of a discussion that I know will be rife with fanboys......

 

[RIMP]

It all comes down to personal preference I say Provari.......you say Buzz.......Lavatube........whatever.........can't we all just like what we like and.........

 

[kabonk]

wait a minute I get 2 day out of my provari on a single battery charge thats with the 18650 I get about 12 hours with the 18490 , you get 4 days on th IP? that's some killer battery life but I still don't like the way the 510 connection sticks up but I will probablly by the VVPV when they release it