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[hmlessalky]

Yeah, I run my LT with 181250's, dont you? Really I just haven't got used to the new phones layout. And not much of a proofreader.

The scorpion center tube doesn't fill with fluid. It is supposed to wick, but it just doesn't do so well. Punching a hole would flood it.

 

[keelalagirl55]

I got my Rocket, and Scorpion today. I am very impressed with the Rocket. I really like the size and feel. I actually purchased this with every intention of giving it to a friend to use. I have decided to keep it. The only change I would like to see is an on/off. I do not care for the cartomizers that come with it.
I also tried the Scorpion. I filled it about 3/4 with BWB Maple tobacco. I had to let it sit for a time to wick. I love it. I had enough good flavor to satisfy me, and quite a bit of vapor.
I do prefer the Scorpion over the included cartos.
I am excited to be on board and can't wait to see what's next.

5 quick clicks of the big button will turn it on and off When it's off and you push the button, you get 2 dashes on the display....5 more clicks and you are back to go.

 

[Sev00]

5 quick clicks of the big button will turn it on and off When it's off and you push the button, you get 2 dashes on the display....5 more clicks and you are back to go.

Get back over to the Mega Prize....lol


Sev

 

[kelleymcm]

well crap ...
I put earl grey tea in my first Scorpion...<cuz I'm a dumbass
could have sworn this was a tank safe flavor
without packing tape <cuz I'm a forgetful dumbass
& yeah ...NOPE NOT a SAFE Flavor !! Spider cracks round the top !!

But I got the juice out of tank filled it back up w/unflavored & ma' tape on & am off to the casino ...
think I'll take it & a baggie & hope for the BEST !! <cuz I'm a dumbass

Oh It is ......vaping just fine !! & Taste is dead on !
100% (thinned) VG even ....filled inner tube & tank,few drops on coil...
will report back later .........

 

[AG51]

But I got the juice out of tank filled it back up w/unflavored & ma' tape on & am off to the casino ...
think I'll take it & a baggie & hope for the BEST !! <cuz I'm a dumbass

will report back later .........

You not a dumbass and I hopes you win !

 

[haft2doit]

Have a couple scorpions on the way. So the center tube is just full of wicking? It would be cool if they used a ceramic for the tube that allowed juice to pass through the whole length of the tube, with wicks all along the sides. I have no idea if that would just result in dumping but sounds cool. I read somewhere when attempting to use ceramic as a wick it got clogged quickly but that was at the coil, maybe if used as a medium to a second wick it could work. Dunno I would love to see some outrageous new ideas.

 

[Briar]

...The scorpion center tube doesn't fill with fluid. It is supposed to wick, but it just doesn't do so well. Punching a hole would flood it.

Why not? You got a tube that's open to air on top, has two holes on the bottom, and is sitting in liquid. The only way it wouldn't equalize with the level of liquid in the outer tube is if the wicks swell to completely fill the inner tube (in which case what we effectively have is a funky filled carto in a tank), or to block the bottom holes (which they don't just by observation).

And, if there was no liquid in the tube, tilting wouldn't help, I think, at least not this drastically. I leave it sitting vertically, and hold it vertically, and the second hit is dry. I hold it close to horizontal, and no dry hits at all. There is gravity's effect on wicking, of course, but i'm not sure it would make such a drastic difference so quickly.

 

[Briar]

Have a couple scorpions on the way. So the center tube is just full of wicking? It would be cool if they used a ceramic for the tube that allowed juice to pass through the whole length of the tube, with wicks all along the sides. I have no idea if that would just result in dumping but sounds cool. I read somewhere when attempting to use ceramic as a wick it got clogged quickly but that was at the coil, maybe if used as a medium to a second wick it could work. Dunno I would love to see some outrageous new ideas.

yeah, me too. there is something out there with ceramic wicking, something really, really expensive, as I recall, but I don't remember what it is... It was waaaaaaaay out of my price range, whatever it was. LOL

I would love, love, love to see ceramic wicking of some sort worked out to where it's affordable and works well... It's gotta be the next great revolution in cartos. Clean, no threat of particulates flying off into your lungs, washable... Vaper's dream.

Picture a "flying sourcer" design: a large, thin ceramic plate with a spiral heating coil unerneath (just like a stove top).... Covered in a white body with LEDs on the edge, and "NCC1701" stamped on top. Eh? Eh? Tell me that's not cool.

 

[haft2doit]

lasers....don't forget lasers.

 

[rdsok]

lasers....don't forget lasers.

Actually how about... "sharks with frickin' laser beams attached to their heads!"

 

[haft2doit]

Ya I think what I really want these days is a pricey, but completely reusable tank with ceramic or ss mesh. I would pay 50-100$ for Something that would last 6 months or more. There was a guy raidy on the forums with a ss wick design with a solid machined ss tank and replacable coil that you just brush to clean. I ended up making a very rough prototype and it has a lot of potential. Just needed to adjust distances between coil and wick, lenth of wire, and the wrap on the mesh and I think I could have got it working really well. I hope GV can do a little r&d in that direction and really light the fire under that kind of inovation.
(not mine these are much more professional, but you get the idea)

 

[naviathan]

I've skimmed through the thread a bit and to save some time I'm just going to say this:
I received my VV Rocket today and this is what VV vaping is about! I like my VOX, don't get me wrong, but my one big complaint with it is the vapor reduction from the step up circuit. When you up the voltage beyond the battery you lose amperage which is where the real heat comes into play. The dual batts on the Rocket compensate beautifully! Using the same Stardust I was just vaping on my VOX at 3.7v I had to drop the Rocket to 3.2v to keep from burning it up and I'm getting MORE VAPOR! Now how long will it last? The body and the 510 connector feel a bit fragile to me. Like if I tighten it too much I might strip the connector out of the body. Other than that, so far this is a damned fine product.

Thank you Danno and Chris for giving me this opportunity to play with new products without breaking the bank.

 

[Sev00]

I've skimmed through the thread a bit and to save some time I'm just going to say this:
I received my VV Rocket today and this is what VV vaping is about! I like my VOX, don't get me wrong, but my one big complaint with it is the vapor reduction from the step up circuit. When you up the voltage beyond the battery you lose amperage which is where the real heat comes into play. The dual batts on the Rocket compensate beautifully! Using the same Stardust I was just vaping on my VOX at 3.7v I had to drop the Rocket to 3.2v to keep from burning it up and I'm getting MORE VAPOR! Now how long will it last? The body and the 510 connector feel a bit fragile to me. Like if I tighten it too much I might strip the connector out of the body. Other than that, so far this is a damned fine product.

Thank you Danno and Chris for giving me this opportunity to play with new products without breaking the bank.

Its not the amps its the watts. Never found a hair dryer sold by the amps it produces, they advertise the watts. Light bulbs are watts also. In incandescent bulbs, high watts = more light.

Ohm's law


V, I, and R, the parameters of Ohm's law.
Ohm's law states that the current through a conductor between two points is directly proportional to the potential difference across the two points. Introducing the constant of proportionality, the resistance, one arrives at the usual mathematical equation that describes this relationship:

I = V/R

where I is the current through the conductor in units of amperes, V is the potential difference measured across the conductor in units of volts, and R is the resistance of the conductor in units of ohms. More specifically, Ohm's law states that the R in this relation is constant, independent of the current.

Circuit analysis

In circuit analysis, three equivalent expressions of Ohm's law are used interchangeably:

I = V/R or V = IR o r R = V/I

Each equation is quoted by some sources as the defining relationship of Ohm's law, or all three are quoted, or derived from a proportional form, or even just the two that do not correspond to Ohm's original statement may sometimes be given.
The interchangeability of the equation may be represented by a triangle, where V (voltage) is placed on the top section, the I (current) is placed to the left section, and the R (resistance) is placed to the right. The line that divides the left and right sections indicate multiplication, and the divider between the top and bottom sections indicates division (hence the division bar).



Sev

 

[MastiffMike]

The body and the 510 connector feel a bit fragile to me. Like if I tighten it too much I might strip the connector out of the body. Other than that, so far this is a damned fine product.

Thank you Danno and Chris for giving me this opportunity to play with new products without breaking the bank.

The connector is in there pretty good (especially considering it's not glued in). The connector has grooves on each side and the top 2 screws (see the back of your Rocket) are actually in those grooves. Granted the whole thing is plastic but it'd be pretty hard to break the connector loose just by tightening. You can see the grooves on the connector in this picture as well as the screw posts that fit into the grooves:

FWIW, the body is fairly thin plastic but is suprisingly rigid due to it's shape. I think the part most likely to have problems is the bottom cap, but so far so good on mine.

 

[hmlessalky]

The wicks sticking out are supposed to prevent the tube from filling up. If the tube was filled, there would be nothing to stop this from pouring out of the mouthpiece when drawing hard or laying it down, as there is no real seal around the ceramic. If the center filled with fluid and didn't leak it would perform much better.

 

[dannoman]

Whatever happened to raidy?

Ya I think what I really want these days is a pricey, but completely reusable tank with ceramic or ss mesh. I would pay 50-100$ for Something that would last 6 months or more. There was a guy raidy on the forums with a ss wick design with a solid machined ss tank and replacable coil that you just brush to clean. I ended up making a very rough prototype and it has a lot of potential. Just needed to adjust distances between coil and wick, lenth of wire, and the wrap on the mesh and I think I could have got it working really well. I hope GV can do a little r&d in that direction and really light the fire under that kind of inovation.
View attachment 110438View attachment 110439View attachment 110440 (not mine these are much more professional, but you get the idea)

 

[haft2doit]

@ sev00 I could be wrong but.. if the hairdryer's power source supplied a different current the wattage would not be what it says on the hairdryer... Current (amperage) involves the voltage and resistance which determines wattage. right? If the tox is set to 3.7v you don't know how efficient the circuit is. So at the coil you are getting a lower wattage than the rocket set to the same voltage. It is correct to say the tox doesn't supply as much current to the coil. and also correct to say the rocket has higher wattage at the same voltage setting. The terms are related, change one change the other.

 

[Briar]

The wicks sticking out are supposed to prevent the tube from filling up. If the tube was filled, there would be nothing to stop this from pouring out of the mouthpiece when drawing hard or laying it down, as there is no real seal around the ceramic. If the center filled with fluid and didn't leak it would perform much better.

You may be right - there is no way to tell for sure that I'm aware of... But I don't see that the holes on the bottom are blocked by the wick - not even close. And, furthermore, just about everyone has been pouring the juice into the tube anyways... I haven't, but I tilt heavily. How do we explain the tilt working if there is no liquid inside?

 

[haft2doit]

I don't know what happened to raidy. I havn't really checked on those threads in a long time. Perhaps he moved on to a different hobby. He seemed like quite the engineer. I think vaping was a little pet project, but he has other serious endevours.

 

[Sev00]

@ sev00 I could be wrong but.. if the hairdryer's power source couldn't supply the current the wattage would not be what it says on the hairdryer... Current (amperage) involves the voltage and resistance which determines wattage. right?

Nope.

We know the voltage of a given PV and can measure it with a volt meter to verify. We know the resistance of a given carto, CE2 etc. We can measure it with an Ohm meter to verify. With those two confirmed constants, the amps are fixed. I = V/R. Amps are represented by "I".

So its these 3 factors mathematically solved that determine the operation of your vape. A step up or step down voltage regulator has no bearing on amps. It just supplies the volts that are set. The amps is a product of the voltage and the resistance.


Now here is how to express all three of the above variables. Wattage, the measure of power, expressed as "P". I believe the Rocket is a great device, but it can't bend physics.

[h=4]Direct current[/h]In direct current resistive circuits, electrical power is calculated using Joule's law:

where P is the electric power, V the potential difference, and I the electric current.work done =chrge*potential
In the case of resistive (Ohmic, or linear) loads, Joule's law can be combined with Ohm's law (V = I·R) to produce alternative expressions for the dissipated power:

where R is the electrical resistance.

Sev