So, no comment on the melting plastic. I'm concerned that such a chemical reaction while vaping poses health risks. Apparently, this also happens with the Stardusts. Do you intend to put a warning or something on the product page? Or did they change the plastic they use when manufacturing the CE5?
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How about VStars?
Well, I have just about finished tinkering with my CE9. I gave up on the tank system and just converted it to a dripper. Works pretty darn good though. Had to drill a hole and have temporarily inserted a piece of carto condom to hold my drip tip til I work something else out. One of the screws is a PITA to loosen/tighten, but other than that I can't complain.
Now to wait for something else to mess with. Thanks GV guys for this fun opportunity!
Salky
Well, I have just about finished tinkering with my CE9. I gave up on the tank system and just converted it to a dripper. Works pretty darn good though. Had to drill a hole and have temporarily inserted a piece of carto condom to hold my drip tip til I work something else out. One of the screws is a PITA to loosen/tighten, but other than that I can't complain.
Now to wait for something else to mess with. Thanks GV guys for this fun opportunity!
Salky
hmmm. i like the alpha star.....i dident get in 2 alpha in b4 this was sold out,so id love 2 see it mainlined
Just a thought... The original Stardusts aren't rebuildable/modular... but the Vision Stone is/was... So if going in this direction with a name perhaps the Moondust would fit in line... of course the newest version of the Stardust V2 sort of throws this argument out and of course they may want to reserve the "*dust" and "*stone" names for other Vision brand products as well for consistency...
I hear your concerns, but I'd call it at least as much of [if not more of] a juice issue than a plastic issue. I've seen end caps, drip tips and, of course tubes all have issues with *certain* juices.
However you want to classify it, I'd sure love to see it resolved. I'm sure we'll get there, but for now, be sure to continue to be very careful of any plastic mixed with certain juices/types of juice. Probably the best thing to search for is tube cracking juice. That should find you a list of vendor juices and juice components/flavors that are known issues.
It's really a juice + plastic issue. I've seen numerous reports of Stardust tips melting and the tanks clouding up from acidic types of juice. I posted this in another thread, but you can google 'Stardust e-cig melting' and find plenty of reports. Cinnamon and red hot flavors will do it, not just citruses.
Here's a response to a thread where someone said their banana juice caused it. I've had juices like this in my stone tank and it didn't happen. I had a lemon-ish sour juice in my Apollo tank and it's totally fine. I just think it's more than a coincidence that the Stardust style tips melt and the tanks cloud up with acidic juices. Sure, probably happens with other things, but Stardust does seem to be the most common by far.
If I was a new vaper or a veteran that didn't really watch the forums closely enough to know about this stuff, I'd be pretty upset. I would likely never consider the possibility of it happening. I just think that either the material should be changed or there should be a warning on the product page. If the manufacturer didn't do the former, I'm sure Dan and Chris will do the latter.
Edited to add: It looks like there's at least a comment about acidic juices in the product description on the listing for Stardusts with new tubes. It says that the new plastic is meant to deal with acidic juices better. That'll at least maybe make someone curious so they'll go out and look it up.
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I agree and also feel that if priced right, the CE5 could have some promise. I had a good run with it too.
For the ones that didn't do so well... it seems the hit or miss is on par with other carts, attys & tanks.
Yes, the new 'rebuildables' are taking the market by storm right now, as well as a solid evolution/improvement but this said, in the very near future there will be another product evolution. It will force the current new 'rebuilables' to sit back on the slow boat along side their once spotlighted non-rebuildable cousins.
Pleased to see the CE5 possibly go forward.
I like to see as much product diversity & choices as possible; the more new gadgets/inventions the better (as long as they are not lemons).
Btw, "Moondust" sounds good, since it closely resembles the Stardust but stands on its own. "V-dust" "Vstar" & "AlphaStar" also have a nice ring to it.
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Another new Phoenix product?! Should I just have work change my direct debit to your bank account instead? That would save me the work of actually having to do the ordering.
Another new Phoenix product?! Should I just have work change my direct debit to your bank account instead? That would save me the work of actually having to do the ordering.
I know right...We need the GV routing and acct # so we can all have direct deposit into the GV acct
I think I'd save alphastar for something that ends up being the very best thing to come out of alpha testing. So it's sort of a double word play, the star of the alpha program.
Y'all know it's not nice to keep secrets!! Something new dropping today maybe that you haven't told us about, I think I saw in another thread...... a new phx thing in 2 weeks you haven't told us about. Don't make us tickle you til you tell!!
Y'all know it's not nice to keep secrets!! Something new dropping today maybe that you haven't told us about, I think I saw in another thread...... a new phx thing in 2 weeks you haven't told us about. Don't make us tickle you til you tell!!
ummmmmmmmmmmmm a neg 1 on the tickling lol.And i didn't need that image thanks.
I'm almost positive these are same material as all other Stardust tips. I will put/amend the product pages wiht a warning, thanks for the reminder on this. I'll ask the manufacturer about this and see if they might not have a solution but its strange we are only hearign reports on this mouthpiece and not on other mouthpiece grade drip tips...
As far as the name moondust wasn't a bad suggestion at all...I thhink we may go with the AlphaStar for obvious reasons, tie ins to a very similar product we carry and also to the Alpha program.
I will ask them to look into manufacturing these with a plastic that might not cloud up on certain juices, see what they can do about that.
As far as the name moondust wasn't a bad suggestion at all...I thhink we may go with the AlphaStar for obvious reasons, tie ins to a very similar product we carry and also to the Alpha program.
I will ask them to look into manufacturing these with a plastic that might not cloud up on certain juices, see what they can do about that.
Thanks
I really appreciate this.I think the plastic on the tips is a different material than the basic black drip tips like the ones on the Scorpions. Luckily, you guys are getting the metal Stardust tips in soon so that'll definitely be a great option.
The screw on top for the Apollo tank might actually be an interesting option. You can use a regular drip tip in it but it sits pretty securely over the condom/cone in the tank, which is the same thing that's in the Stardust. Seems like there could be a happy marriage there. Food for thought, anyway.
CE9 Update:
So I slid some silica into the spike and under the wick between the posts. It is performing MUCH better now. Still not "Great" but it is a lot better and a lot less with the Dry Hits. I will run a few fills though it and see how it goes. It is a lot better now though that's for sure.
So I slid some silica into the spike and under the wick between the posts. It is performing MUCH better now. Still not "Great" but it is a lot better and a lot less with the Dry Hits. I will run a few fills though it and see how it goes. It is a lot better now though that's for sure.
My Final CE9 call:
Take out the spike, add more wicking, soak that wicking, not too much. Use as a dripper. Works well. Now to play with the wick material...
The condition of the wicks in this item when it shipped was simply unacceptable. Little bits everywhere. I simply am not willing to work much harder for an eGo tank.
But a rebuildable dual purpose dripper... not a bad idea, just needs a quality control boost.
Take out the spike, add more wicking, soak that wicking, not too much. Use as a dripper. Works well. Now to play with the wick material...
The condition of the wicks in this item when it shipped was simply unacceptable. Little bits everywhere. I simply am not willing to work much harder for an eGo tank.
But a rebuildable dual purpose dripper... not a bad idea, just needs a quality control boost.
Got my C9 today, and the pre-installed wick had something brown and crusty all over it. Don't know what it was, but it triggered my gag reflex just looking at it, so there was no way I was gonna try to clean it. I'm not particularly squeamish about germs and such, but that really ooged me out. I removed it from the base like I was removing a rat from a trap - holding it as far away from my body as possible and trying not to look directly at it - so I obviously didn't get a very good look at the way it was installed. I assumed that the ends of the wire would wrap around the screws, but it looks like they go down into the two posts, and then the screws tighten to hold them there. Is that right? That would mean cutting the ends of the wire short before installing rather than after, which makes me nervous. Hoping for a little guidance from my fellow Alphalphans.
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