Question for all those "only vape where I can smoke" people.
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why is it necessary to vape inside a Walmart most people are in Walmart less than an hour you cant wait till you get back in your car. I enjoy vaping and yes its not smoke and may not be harmful to others but to non vaping people inside that Walmart it looks like smoking they don't know the facts it upsets people then the govt has to step in and do something. and all of a sudden we vapers are getting screwed.
Um, no. If I "have a responsbility" to "respect" them (people I don't even know, nevermind learned any respect for), then THEY have the "responsibility" to "respect" ME, equally. Social contracts are NOT one sided, they go in both directions.
Andria
No. They've concluded that vapi NH is at least 95% safer than smoking. Putting it on about the same level as breathing. They've also concluded that it's completely harmless to bystanders.
Really? What about the serious studies showing that exhaled vapor isn't any worse than ambient air? Do those not count or do you just ignore anything that doesn't support your opinion ?
Um.. what you just said is "outdoors is fair game, unless someone arbitrarily decides it's not."
Nope. Outdoors is fair game. Period. If you live in one of those states that seems to want to regulate every waking minute of your life, or where you can BREATHE, my advice would be, "move." There are other places in this country where people have some sense.
Andria
Um.. what you just said is "outdoors is fair game, unless someone arbitrarily decides it's not."
Nope. Outdoors is fair game. Period. If you live in one of those states that seems to want to regulate every waking minute of your life, or where you can BREATHE, my advice would be, "move." There are other places in this country where people have some sense.
Andria
Who is "they"? I would like to read up on that report.
Curious what the other 5% is made up of.
Um.. what you just said is "outdoors is fair game, unless someone arbitrarily decides it's not."
Nope. Outdoors is fair game. Period. If you live in one of those states that seems to want to regulate every waking minute of your life, or where you can BREATHE, my advice would be, "move." There are other places in this country where people have some sense.
Andria
Amen Andria, outdoors is fair game for all!
You edit to refer to all vapers as addicts? Now you're just trying to tick people off.
To nicotine, yes.
This is the place with more info I know of even though there are other people studying ecigs but not as regularly: Home
I've mentioned it before but when I asked Dr. Farsalinos about second hand vaping he told me - and I know it's a bit coloquial - I'd only have to worry about that if I were in a room with 100 people vaping at the same time. That seems clear to me.
I know you know...
PS - I don't like being called an addict. That's the way some ......s see us (I don't mean you, mind). The problem is everybody has skeletons inside the closet, and, very often, much, much bigger than vaping or even smoking. Unless you're speaking in medical terms and, in that case, if I vape 0 mg am I still an addict?, if I usually vape 0 mg am I an addict?, if I replace nicotine's TH for, say, BiteXtra Enhancer am I still an addict?, if I actually like a certain amount of nic for the flavour am I an addict? Etc. It's all historical, social and, most of all, ideological. And, frankly, ideology isn't really a science.
I have yet to see any "real" studies. Most that I seen are slanted hard. Like the University of Maryland study. If you actually read it, they claimed they did a real world study on the formation of formaldehyde in vaping. Yet right there in the study the showed they used 50ml of ejuice for one equivalent drag of a vapor. Really? then they compared it to one cigarette and declared vaping produced much higher amounts of formaldehyde. What a crock of you know what.
You edit to refer to all vapers as addicts? Now you're just trying to tick people off.
An EX smoking Vaper is an addict.. Just like with a EX {Moderated} user or drinker is still an addict even if the no longer use.
Sorry if that offends, but sometimes the TRUTH hurts.
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Tangaroav,i kindly ask that you wouldn't refer to my fellow vapers and i
as addicts. those who vape are not addicts in any legal or medical
definition of the word.
our dependency to nicotine in any degree in the form of vaping
does not have the potential of harm to ones self or others
to qualify as an addiction. what of those that use zero nicotine?
how do you classify them?
regards
mike
Well dabnabit, now we all gotta go to smokers anonymous and do the 12 steps.
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