Rayon Wick - Better Flow, Flavor, Longevity, and Nic Hit!! - Pt.2

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I wicked with the Delasco's rayon. Here a look. It surely save this atty for me. Taste great, good vapor & 30 watts.
 

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You'll find the wick that touches the glass will probably darken with time. I usually go nuts trying to trim things down in Foggers and Aromamizers to limit that touching or eliminate it completely.
On the theorem how can I make it not touch? Maybe I could trim it a little bit.
 

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On the theorem how can I make it not touch? Maybe I could trim it a little bit.
Touching the glass isn't an issue, but you want to make sure and poke something down where the wick touches the glass to improve wicking.
 

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I'd just trim it back, up above the channels, so it doesn't contact the glass but leave enough to prevent leaks. Rayon will wick from what appears to be hardly enough to supply a large coil with enough liquid, and then some. I use 3mm coils in Fogger V6s and trim the wick back far enough to keep it away from the chimney walls. That leaves just a thin tail in the liquid channels and it wicks just fine that way.
 

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yeah not sure what im doing wrong but i keep getting leaks. i watched cheap ....... video like 12 times and got it EXACTLY the same. works great for like 24 hrs then leaks on both subtanks. which sucks because then I loose tons of juice while at work. I carry the mod/atty on me while at work maybe thats why. I move around a lont I do construction I get 2 breaks a day in 12hrs so rewicking isnt an option plus i shouldnt need to re wick every day. have tried 2mm coils 2.5mm 3mm and the little blue screwdriver (super small) same thing. help? love the flavor but didnt have this leak roblem with organic or japaneese cotton. maybe it the tanks issue not the wick no sure but definately starts to flood and leaks through the bottom
 

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Hello. I'm popping in with a question here. I read through a lot of this gigantic thread first from first to later, then from last to earlier, so I skipped some in the middle. Can anyone tell me if it's been discussed how to wick a tank like the Herakles RTA or the Griffin 25? The ones that have those slots that you thread the tails through... I read in the beginning of the thread that you should trim your tails, but it seems like trimming them down to 1/4 or so would cause leaking. If someone could explain or even link to a particular post, that would be great. :)

I don't have any rayon yet, but I've ordered some.

You don't realize how huge and fluffy the tails will be in comparison to cotton.

Like I've said use less in the tails than you think is possible to work.
 

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Maybe the Delasco just needs a little break in time. After vaping for a bit, it started picking up. I wicked an RM2 and it was fine from the start.

It will take a slightly different density than Sally's. I find pretty much each type is slightly different in density, in due related to the fluff of the fibers.

You may have unrolled it unevenly. It can be a little tricky to get it to separate evenly.
 

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Got my Delasco's today, along with the SS wire. Really quick shipping. The bag of rayon I got has "Non Sterile" on the bag, is that what you all have been getting?
I pulled a couple balls out, and straightened them out, and in the length, the thickness varies, so I had to kinda play with it by gently spreading, and pulling, and rolling to get a more uniform length. So, will get an rda wicked up here in a while, and see how it goes.

Yes, sterile has little value for this application. As soon as it's opened its non sterile. To sterilize they irradiate it. I do not believe bottle Rayon is sterile. Typically sterile is only needed in the operating room.
 

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yeah not sure what im doing wrong but i keep getting leaks. i watched cheap ....... video like 12 times and got it EXACTLY the same. works great for like 24 hrs then leaks on both subtanks. which sucks because then I loose tons of juice while at work. I carry the mod/atty on me while at work maybe thats why. I move around a lont I do construction I get 2 breaks a day in 12hrs so rewicking isnt an option plus i shouldnt need to re wick every day. have tried 2mm coils 2.5mm 3mm and the little blue screwdriver (super small) same thing. help? love the flavor but didnt have this leak roblem with organic or japaneese cotton. maybe it the tanks issue not the wick no sure but definately starts to flood and leaks through the bottom

Never really heard of anyone having a leaking problem, usually the opposite. Maybe you left out an oring from the tank and that's causing the issue.

If your using high pg leave more tail at the juice ports.

Every atty is slightly different but the principals remain the same. If you shake it around so much that it leaks, leave more tail, but just don't leave it all.

Every vapor is different and different Power and juice consistency is call for adjustment. Didn't know there was a subtank Rayon video.

Realize I use 100% vg. If you don't, adjust to your style. With high vg and cold weather I have no choice but to leave my tank ports wide open, and jostling can cause problems with any wick for me. A heavire tail will help control it, or longer, it may be too short allowing the wick to move out of place when working.

Sounds like you just need to leave the tail longer or thicker to handle the pressure changes.
 
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heres the video he posted it a few pages back. yeah I think its colapsing and allowing it to flood out then it will drip down into the air holes cuz like I said at home this doesnt happen only at work (carpentry) I usually keep it in a little case in my pouch or back pocket but I move a lot I only use high vg juices this is why im shocked (70/30 and up) I have one 60/40 but only use it in my dripper. I love the flavor but I did just notice I think he has the subtank rba version 1 with the different juice hole mine is the new rba+ with bigger holes. I'm gonna try to push the tails through the holes so they stick out a little bit. I had to do that with cotton or I had this same issue no matter what even just sitting on my desk. cant wait for my Cthulhuv2, griffin, and tfv4 to get here this week then I can pick the best one for work because both my subtank plu and mini are super finicky
 

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Touching the glass isn't an issue, but you want to make sure and poke something down where the wick touches the glass to improve wicking.
So are you using the whole strand of Sally's with the notched coils?
I can't wait for mine to arrive!
 

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Your vape lifestyle is different than some others, you have an idea what you need to prevent leaks while bouncing around. As you found it works fine till you start working with it..

Try wicking like you did with cotton to handle your work... Just keep the main principals of Rayon in mind. More in the coils, less in the tails than cotton.

Did you see the subtank builds in the 2nd to 4th page of this thread.. Pancake wicks not even blocking the drilled out extra large giant holes. They have no leaks but they don't carry it like you do probably.

Do this,

Just straight up wick it like cotton and see what it does, then work backwards and taper/ thin the tails down during use till it wicks just right for you without tail discoloration.. Then you will have what you need.

Carrying tanks on the job site is a pain I think no matter the wick or tank. That is high power tanks because there's more open juice flow... I always left mine sitting somewhere because when it's wicked for carrying at work to slow juice flow doesn't feed fast enough for higher wattage. You may need two tanks, one wicked for work and one for home, unless you vape at low enough power all the time that it doesn't matter.
 
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So are you using the whole strand of Sally's with the notched coils?
I can't wait for mine to arrive!
I haven't ordered one yet, reason I say it doesn't matter if it touches is because my wicks ride on the chimney of all my devices without any issues.

I really want a Theorem, just something about seeing my build working that is appealing.
 

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So are you using the whole strand of Sally's with the notched coils?
I can't wait for mine to arrive!
Took me 2 strands to fill the notch. I didn't like the vape from it though. Not warm and dense enough for me.
 

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You may need two tanks, one wicked for work and one for home, unless you vape at low enough power all the time that it doesn't matter.
this is the solution I think. I'll have to probably use one with juice flow control so I can shut it off while working. I have a few new tanks coming this week, cthulu v2,griffin and tfv4 im sure i'll find the solution. I did try to wick it like straight cotton at first but was getting a lot of dry hits. ill try to wick it in between and see what happens. thanks a bunch for the help.
 
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