Rayon Wick - Better Flow, Flavor, Longevity, and Nic Hit!! - Pt.2

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Here's the coil I'm running in it currently. It's vaping very well.

26g kanthal, 2.5mm, . 87ohm
Started with a full wick here since it's generous juice flow and only 2.5mm.



You can see where the wick is discoloring. Maybe better in this pic



This color is showing that that portion of the wick is not needed. Rayon will always show you signs.. So I pulled the brown spots up and trimmed them off. The wick will start running clean and clear now.



Just checked it and it is in fact running clean like it should be
 

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Here's the coil I'm running in it currently. It's vaping very well.

26g kanthal, 2.5mm, . 87ohm
Started with a full wick here since it's generous juice flow and only 2.5mm.



You can see where the wick is discoloring. Maybe better in this pic



This color is showing that that portion of the wick is not needed. Rayon will always show you signs.. So I pulled the brown spots up and trimmed them off. The wick will start running clean and clear now.



Just checked it and it is in fact running clean like it should be
Thanks for giving a visual to what you were explaining a few post back. Will come in handy when my Pharaoh rta gets here.
 

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This color is showing that that portion of the wick is not needed. Rayon will always show you signs.. So I pulled the brown spots up and trimmed them off. The wick will start running clean and clear now.

Nifty...Usually by the time I get to see my build, its rewick/rebuild time cause its a real mess. You got me intrigued to start watching my builds now to see if they discolor. What is making the wick discolor then? You say that bit of wick isn't needed, thats the part that I'm having trouble with understanding to why its not needed.
 

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Always inspect the deck.

The color is the part that needs to be thinned or it will show the imbalance in the two wick tails. It's just the way it is. Once the imbalance in the two tails is evened out, or the excess wick is removed you will get efficient and complete evaporation with no ebb and flow in the wick which causes the juice to refire multiple times causing the darkened juice, that also gunks coils more because it's caramelizing. If both tails are darkening they are probably too dense and need to be thinned.

Coloring leads to gunking. A clean wick is a clean coil. Makes a Big difference.

A proper long lasting wick will still look like day one, after a week. Having a wick of this quality is how you can get maximum longevity out of your coil and wick before any replacement. This is how we go 300+ml on flavored juice. Checking your work and a couple tweaks can double or more the useable life of your build before gunking occurs.

Color is the language of rayon
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So something weird happened the other day. You know I have been vaping at 40w for quite some time.. Been using ss316 a lot, bigger 3mm+ coils and even temp control the last couple months. Read about the new studies so was trying...

Anyway I was having issues like normal with ss or tc. Being that I don't like it.!.. Said f - it put a 26g kanthal in 2.5mm at . 86 and let me tell you the vape is stupendous. Way better.

Also I've hit some type of combination with this new tank I've got the Taifun gt3, (Ive drilled it out some) this coil hits great at 25w. #?! # I haven't vaped that low in ages. But it vapes just as good or better than the bigger coils and wires I've been using. Just perfect.

Ss always gives me issues as the vape is never stable because the ohms change so much, in wattage or temp control. Its not the same, kanthal is spot on I know what it's going to do.
I know what you mean... IMO it's not the SS wire, it's the TC...
I always find it to be an anemic, unsatisfying vape, and I need to push wattage/temp way up than I would otherwise.
I'm back to Kanthal myself for the most part, just some SS on mechs for its 'turbo ramp-up' feature. For anything else the constant resistance of Kanthal seems to suit me better. Go figure... [emoji2]
 

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Yeah for sure I've been out on tc for ever, just keep trying it since I have these tc mods, lol.. Exactly what I say anemic. I actually get more dry hits on temp control for the very reasons you stated. (personal preference, no offense to those that tc)

Stainless I just don't care for.^ it's stainless too. The tcr is too wide, even in wattage mode it fluctuates too much to be consistent seems to want to wildly overheat with fluctuating ambient Temps and adjusting temp settings to compensate, ect then Temps changes ect. ect.. I guess in voltage mode or on a mech it may be a little more consistent.

I do agree, us - being "classical vapers"© just know how to vape kanthal. Spoiled by it maybe..
 
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Yeah for sure I've been out on tc for ever, just keep trying it since I have these tc mods, lol.. Exactly what I say anemic. I actually get more dry hits on temp control for the very reasons you stated. (personal preference, no offense to those that tc)

Stainless I just don't care for.^ it's stainless too. The tcr is too wide, even in wattage mode it fluctuates too much to be consistent seems to want to wildly overheat with fluctuating ambient Temps and adjusting temp settings to compensate, ect then Temps changes ect. ect.. I guess in voltage mode or on a mech it may be a little more consistent.

I do agree, us - being "classical vapers"[emoji767] just know how to vape kanthal. Spoiled by it maybe..
I've stuck with kanthal other than very brief time playing with 316. I love my DNA mods, but they sit in Watts mode (very clean signal - DNAs are great constant power providers).

If you want ohms closer to ss, just substitute twisted kanthal of the same gauge. A big plus for me is that twisted kanthal is pretty mechanically stable, easy to wick tightly.
 

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Yeah, I don't totally discount it may be better with better mods. I've mostly used Joyetech tc mods. I personally don't need to spend more as I'm pretty darn set with rayon and kanthal.

Rayon was the original temp control as a wick. With rayon you rarely have dry hit issues anyway.

Anemic is a relative term. Depends on how you vape. :vapor:
 
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I thought tc was meh too until I got my Hohm Slice, powers it nicely not anemic.

Same here but with DNAs. Thick rich juicy flavor packed vaping in tc. There's really no scientific reason for an anemic vape with tc. It's all in how you set up your tc settings.
 

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I won a whole pile of geekvape wire and coils from healthcabin, kanthal clapton pre made builds, some stainless steel wire and SS claptons and alien clapton. I guess I'll be dabbling into TC a bit since some of the wire is stainless. I would have never made alien, fused or flat clapton coils so this might be a enjoyable experience to expand my wire horizons. I guess some reading up on the TC that I've been bypassing is in order also till the wire shows up..
 

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I use TC on 90% of my daily vape gear.

The chipsets are FSK (G2 & Slice) , DNA200 & 75 (HCigar VT's), GX-180-HT (Minikin 2) and the YiHi SX330-F8 in the iPV8.

Also a few Joyetech/WeeLeaf ones. ;) :D

You have a very nice collection going!
 

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@markfm are you enjoying your Therion BF? These just came on my radar and I'm considering one. I've never messed with regulated mods, but seeing a regulated squonker at that price makes me think, if nothing else, it would be interesting to play with and have as a back-up to my nicer mech mods.
 

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Not too sure Sloth...funny though...I was thinking the same idea. Cheap beater squonk reg. mod but I was looking at this one....even cheaper.....anybody either one of these????

Council of Vapor Wraith 80W Squonker Kit | Wraith Box Mod & Wraith Atomizer
That looks interesting but it's using a "proprietary chipset," which wigs me out a little compared to a DNA75. I don't know much of anything about regulated, but I know DNAs are reputable, so I feel more comfortable with that.

I'm really tempted to do it and get a 2nd Hadaly to go with it. As a mech fiend and DIY fiend, it would be useful to be able to change wattage on a juice, find its sweet spot, then build for that on the mechs - another plus, in addition to being a beater backup.
 
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