Rayon Wick - Better Flow, Flavor, Longevity, and Nic Hit!! - Pt.2
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It's all good, the important thing is that best wicking medium on the planet is on it's way to your home! 
Isn't the Hadaly almost a spittin' image of the Narda? Even though I have 3/4 Narda's, I still have 2 Hadaly's in my FT shopping basket due to their flavor ability.
But I'm curious as to why you think wicking it is different in some way? Maybe I'll know once I have one on hand, but looking at pictures, it looks just like a Narda inside.
Not familiar with the NarDA, but it's more about the tails. Thinning them too much doesn't work (for my palate) as well as fat tails do in the Hadaly, likely due to the fact that the chamber is less restricted as a result.
When I wick with Rayon in the same basic fashion that I do with cotton, the result is essentially identical, but rewicking isn't - way more strain placed on the coils using Rayon. Given the negligible difference in performance, I'm opting for cotton in the hopes that I'm trading off for coil longevity.
For me, that problem isn't specific to the NarDA, if I'm understanding correctly.. Since rayon fibers run in one direction and are so long compared to cotton, if the rayon hasn't been burned through (when each end pulls off separately), it tends to pull the coil no matter which atomizer I'm using. The solution I use is to use a scissors that is small enough to cut one end right next to one of the sides of the coil. Then the other side pulls out easily.
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That's how I do it.
As do I... but then I put a new wick back IN, and as we know, that gets tight. With thinned tails, I'm not concerned with rewicking, but with the fat ends on my Hadaly wicks, there's just too much potential to misshape my coil.
[EDIT] Probably worth mentioning that the real crux of the problem here isn't THAT I need to rewick - it's a tight pull on my other atties too - but that I'm finding myself rewicking a lot, thanks to those fat tails. As frequently as with cotton.
Thin your tails before installing through the coil, that makes it a lot easier.
Thin your tails before installing through the coil, that makes it a lot easier.
We did it! Full circle! But then my tails are thinned, which sucks in my Hadaly.
My hadalys vape fine with thinned tails, albeit Ive not tried unthinned tails. Am I missing some flavor in tharr?
A couple thoughts..
Either thin the tails a bit, but not much - and/or don't overstuff the coil as much. I personally think the preached 'overstuff' and 'thin you're tails' sermon to be a bit overemphasized/overrated.
But I think I understand you're concern now.. You want fat tails no matter what, and as with my Narda deck, it can be a bit cramped to fit all that wick in there without bending the coil a bit. To help with that, I use an angled fine-point tweezers and only stuff a bit in at a time - thereby not bending the coil much, if at all. Do a Gearch (Google search - I'm trying to get that caught-on
) on "ESD-15" and you'll see the tweezers I'm talking about. I've ordered several of those, as I don't want to ever be caught without one on-hand.Of course, another direction to go, is be like me and get wire by the 500/1000 feet, and don't worry as much about coil longevity. Either that or go with stainless steel wire at 28 guage or thicker.. That stuff is MUCH more durable than any of the other wire types.
Yeah, I never cared much about coil longevity until I started buying fused Claptons by the stick. Until I get off my ... and buy a drill, these suckers are precious.
I'll look into this threading method you're describing. I have long needle-nose tweezers, but they were honed by a gorilla and I don't have a ton of faith in them. That said, gonna need a new wick tomorrow, so I'll check in with the results!
I'll look into this threading method you're describing. I have long needle-nose tweezers, but they were honed by a gorilla and I don't have a ton of faith in them. That said, gonna need a new wick tomorrow, so I'll check in with the results!
I'd say it's more of a nicer draw that way, not honestly sure the flavour is impacted much on it's own, but I enjoy the subtle change in the quality of the vapour itself, which adds to it. Lots of mouthfeel in vaping, I've found. It's addictive and nice to achieve consistently.
Ah, basically because thicker tails keeps air from flowing to the side? What I do is "fan" my thinned tail to try and block air from getting to the side. Seems to work pretty well for me.
I did indeed fan them, it's the volume of tail in there that seems to really make that difference, though. Rewicking shortly (needed cofffffeeeee) and we'll see how I do with the threading technique. My local shop was out of my usual guage of Claptons (26/40 ni80), so I held off buying any wire... gotta make it count!
Finally received my lifetime supply of Rayon today. Stuck some in the dual deck I was running on the Exo and it tastes pretty good, almost too intense. Going to have to dial the flavors back a little bit.
UPS got a bit of a holdup because of the hurricane, but it randomly showed up after being showed as delayed in IL. Ordered directly from Graham since I missed the discount over at Sally.
This.... this is a big box of rayon (3lbs). It took me a second to find the start of the coil, so I went ahead and filled a bag with it to avoid opening the package any more than necessary. Flavor change is nearly instantaneous. I'm sure it'll get better as I refine my wicking technique, but holy crap this is stupidly easy to get wicking without leaking compared to cotton. That, and I can taste all of the flavors I mixed into my juice now.
I'd had a feeling it wasn't so much of a wicking issue as much as "cotton becoming a filter" when the first tanks would taste great and the ones that followed would be muted. So, my first real big experiments will be some juice I know gunks quickly under what we'd consider normal circumstances- custards, creme brulee, & NETs.
Maybe I'll finally be able to vape some of that RF SC Cookies & Cream at lower-than-recommended percentages and get more mileage out of it before I hit the gunk threshold. Regardless, I'm a bit excited. I even had to turn my wattage down because my vape was transmitting so much flavor at once.
That's not a bad thing at all. I'll be trying one of the single-coil decks again since I feel it'll be more than adequate to adjust to the new vape.
All in all, definitely worth trying. I'm still shocked I don't need as much power to get this much flavor out of the same juice that was tasting muted in cotton.
UPS got a bit of a holdup because of the hurricane, but it randomly showed up after being showed as delayed in IL. Ordered directly from Graham since I missed the discount over at Sally.
This.... this is a big box of rayon (3lbs). It took me a second to find the start of the coil, so I went ahead and filled a bag with it to avoid opening the package any more than necessary. Flavor change is nearly instantaneous. I'm sure it'll get better as I refine my wicking technique, but holy crap this is stupidly easy to get wicking without leaking compared to cotton. That, and I can taste all of the flavors I mixed into my juice now.
I'd had a feeling it wasn't so much of a wicking issue as much as "cotton becoming a filter" when the first tanks would taste great and the ones that followed would be muted. So, my first real big experiments will be some juice I know gunks quickly under what we'd consider normal circumstances- custards, creme brulee, & NETs.
Maybe I'll finally be able to vape some of that RF SC Cookies & Cream at lower-than-recommended percentages and get more mileage out of it before I hit the gunk threshold. Regardless, I'm a bit excited. I even had to turn my wattage down because my vape was transmitting so much flavor at once.
That's not a bad thing at all. I'll be trying one of the single-coil decks again since I feel it'll be more than adequate to adjust to the new vape.
All in all, definitely worth trying. I'm still shocked I don't need as much power to get this much flavor out of the same juice that was tasting muted in cotton.
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