Rayon wick, better flow, flavor, saturation and Nic Hit!

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I've been using Rayon or a few days and I love it, but I came accross this on another forum http://www.minifibers.com/MSDS/MSDS_Rayon_RAFL-RATC.pdf and I wondered what people make of it? It says that Rayon is treated with finishes that release gases and small amounts of chemichals if heated above 130C. Our coils run hotter than that. Sorry if this type of thing has been asked before and answered, I got to page 105 in the thread and am unable to read any more tonight. Obviously it does not say what chemicals or what finishes they are talking about. I know the OP said that he had seen data sheets for Rayon and come to the conclusion that the finished product is likely to be pretty safe, but I just wondered about this particular data sheet.
 

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I realized I ordered item 44070......does anyone know of it's the same as 44060???


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If you got the reinforced rayon, I think I remember reading back somewhere, that you can separate it out, so I think you may be good to go.
 

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That's the reinforced rayon. It is rayon & cotton. May workout though... Never tried it myself. Guess its the best of both worlds [emoji2]

I'll go out and get some 44060 to try. Honestly I hope it's better than what I have, the 44070 isn't any better than the cotton I've been using for over a year.


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I'll go out and get some 44060 to try. Honestly I hope it's better than what I have, the 44070 isn't any better than the cotton I've been using for over a year.
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Yes, my understanding is that the '070 is just '060 with a paper strip.
I don't notice anything better than all of my cotton experience, except for the fact that I am on week 3 of a single rayon wick. Rayon rocks for me. I hate wicking. 50/50, light colored juice. Try that with cotton.
 

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I've been using Rayon or a few days and I love it, but I came accross this on another forum http://www.minifibers.com/MSDS/MSDS_Rayon_RAFL-RATC.pdf and I wondered what people make of it? It says that Rayon is treated with finishes that release gases and small amounts of chemichals if heated above 130C. Our coils run hotter than that. Sorry if this type of thing has been asked before and answered, I got to page 105 in the thread and am unable to read any more tonight. Obviously it does not say what chemicals or what finishes they are talking about. I know the OP said that he had seen data sheets for Rayon and come to the conclusion that the finished product is likely to be pretty safe, but I just wondered about this particular data sheet.

That was rebutted a few weeks ago here; by me...

Do a thread search for - redit msds
 
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I'll go out and get some 44060 to try. Honestly I hope it's better than what I have, the 44070 isn't any better than the cotton I've been using for over a year.


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If it's 100% rayon your doing something wrong I reinforced shouldn't matter. Have you followed any of my tutorials or videos?
 

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Yesterday, my dear wife decided to re-wick her Russian 91% without my thumb-fingered advice & assistance. She's a stubborn kind of gal sometimes.

Therefore I didn't get to see, or critique, the job she did on it—supposing I know diddly—but I did get to hear her complain that her juice was tasting horrible. And so it was, even after an overnight rest. When I took the thing apart this afternoon I found that both wick ends had come adrift from the coil (triple-twisted 28gauge, 1.2 ohms) and that only carbon was left inside the coil. A burnt mess, in other words.

I've experienced something similar after too many tankloads on the same wick (and ignoring early warning signs), but this is new. So now I'm wondering if the cause may have been over-wicking, or under-. Thought I'd ask the experts & save myself the trouble of finding out by repeated trial & error.:D
 

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Yesterday, my dear wife decided to re-wick her Russian 91% without my thumb-fingered advice & assistance. She's a stubborn kind of gal sometimes.

Therefore I didn't get to see, or critique, the job she did on it—supposing I know diddly—but I did get to hear her complain that her juice was tasting horrible. And so it was, even after an overnight rest. When I took the thing apart this afternoon I found that both wick ends had come adrift from the coil (triple-twisted 28gauge, 1.2 ohms) and that only carbon was left inside the coil. A burnt mess, in other word.

I've experienced something similar after too many tankloads on the same wick (and ignoring early warning signs), but this is new. So now I'm wondering if the cause may have been over-wicking, or under-. Thought I'd ask the experts & save myself the trouble of finding out by repeated trial & error.:D

At least 4 possibilities:
1) She hit the dry wick. I always wet my wick and test before re-assembly. Wick was toast when she had her 1st hit.

2) Too little wick. Too little wick doesn't keep the coil wet & cool. A hot coil can burn a wick in 5 seconds.

3) Too much wick. Too much wick chokes the coil, and just ends up burning the wick. The tails keep wet, but the wick inside the coil is too swollen to bring in more juice to do the job.

4) She is being needy, and burnt it on purpose to get your attention.

So, it could be anything.
 

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Ether, you switched over to rayon from kgd?

Phone Dude!

I'm all over Rayon. 3 weeks on my first wick. Vapin' Red VS Blue at the moment. Killed the Candy Cane, and some Extreme Ice in between. All on the same wick. Awesome. Happy as a pig vapin' rayon. 9W though, so others mileage may vary.

So happy, in fact, that I am back in sticker mode, and I have not been bee-achin' about it on the other thread. That's freakin' happy.

Got a new yellow window, though. Could be that too...
 

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Phone Dude!

I'm all over Rayon. 3 weeks on my first wick. Vapin' Red VS Blue at the moment. Killed the Candy Cane, and some Extreme Ice in between. All on the same wick. Awesome. Happy as a pig vapin' rayon. 9W though, so others mileage may vary.

So happy, in fact, that I am back in sticker mode, and I have not been bee-achin' about it on the other thread. That's freakin' happy.

I'm still on the fence. I like the way it performs, but I think (THINK) it's irritating my throat :( but it could be the juice, vaping too much, better nic delivery from the rayon.... I'm just not sure, I'm kinda switching back and forth right now. But to me, it performs at least as good as any cotton I've tried.

Got a new yellow window, though. Could be that too...

That's what it is! I know you loved the yeller wind'r. :D
 

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At least 4 possibilities:
1) She hit the dry wick. I always wet my wick and test before re-assembly. Wick was toast when she had her 1st hit.

2) Too little wick. Too little wick doesn't keep the coil wet & cool. A hot coil can burn a wick in 5 seconds.

3) Too much wick. Too much wick chokes the coil, and just ends up burning the wick. The tails keep wet, but the wick inside the coil is too swollen to bring in more juice to do the job.

4) She is being needy, and burnt it on purpose to get your attention.

So, it could be anything.

My girl knows to wet it thoroughly, so I'm liking your fourth possibility. We both laughed when we saw that.

…actually the carbonized middle portion was fairly easy to remove compared to my oopsie, which suggests possibility (2) is correct.:headbang:
 

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My wife's evod has been going and going with the rayon. 1.8 ohm 1/16 with just wick through the coil. It's been run dry multiple times it never Burned it... Just went to check it for her, since she's vaping away on it tonight... I said its gotta be about empty .. She said no it's like 1/4 Full.. I unscrewed the tank and dumped it upside down waited.... waited - not a drop came out.. I said; bone dry.

Checked the wick it was still wet and all looked great coil and wick, no gunking at all. Filled it up again and she's on her way. Been 2 weeks now on that wick..
 
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