Rayon wick, better flow, flavor, saturation and Nic Hit!

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JeremyR

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Heres one of my recent at 180+ml. Flash e-vapor 1.3, 28g, 6v


coils still visable, as soon as the one side glowed the light carbon deposit burned itself like a fuse. I was not firing in that pic.

Sorry had just got a new phone and hadn't figured out how to get the best pics on this.. But I do now, as soon as I get close to 200 I'll take pics.
 
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Both events happened at 12mg. I have moved down to 6mg recently, but I've been too afraid to try the Rayon again. Logically I know the Rayon might be clean, but the fear is in my head because of what happened and I can't remove it. I'm too afraid to try it now the sickness was far too great.

I hear you...back when I first started vaping and I finally got the draw down I got so sick it was dangerous! I had to leave work early.I was working on 2 story roofs and ladders. I was dizzy, queezy and god about to pass out and fall off the roof. I had to leave work.. To say the least i will never forget it.

I swiftly went from 18 to 12 and all was well.
 
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http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...t15320431.html?highlight=subtank#post15320431

subtank mini rba w/rayon

thick going through the coil.
tails - cut short and on an angle and thinned slightly
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formed to the post wall and juice channel kept clear
wick3.jpg

Only thing I do different is trim from the top, or angled to the top, not bottom..
 

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Oh this is the juice I use, hangsen Arabic diy 3.33-3.5% in 100vg 8mg nic.

From hangsen-
Arabic Tobacco

Naturally extracted Arabic tobacco, great taste and throat hit.

It is a net but a clean net, processed by molecular distillation.

Oh snapped a quick pic of my juice.
 
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After 5 mils everything taste like crap, regardless of wicking material. I need to learn this Zen-magic wicking technology you guys speak of that protects the coil from the forces of juice physics. OK, maybe that was a little sarcastic. I'm just having fun with you guys and expressing my shock at how far you go with a single build.

This next part is not a joke though, but its only my experience so take it for what its worth, or not worth. I use KGD only now. This is because of two bad experiences I had while using Rayon. The experiences were maybe a couple months apart from each other, and I talked about them briefly in other threads, but those experiences I can't forget and are the reason I can't go back to Rayon.

First experience: I almost passed out while vaping. That never happened with cotton. Coincidence? Maybe.

Second experience: I got so sick while vaping, that I had to lie down on the bathroom floor and wait for it to stop, and I was an inch away from calling 911. I was shaking, nauseous, felt weak etc and had a hard time breathing. This happened after vaping for a while with a fresh Rayon build, and after I started feeling sick, I stopped vaping and after about 10 long minutes or so, the sickness went away. Coincidence? Maybe.

I switched to KGD and have had zero bad experiences. None at all, no matter how hard I chain vape. I used to use sterile cotton and never had a bad experience with any of that. Is all this a huge coincidence? Maybe. Will I ever use Rayon again? Not a chance.

There are people who happen to be allergic to just about anything. You may actually be one of the few people that may have some adverse reaction to something involved. I am no doctor nor do I live in a Holiday Inn express so take my ramblings for what they are worth, not much on the open market. :)
 

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Only thing I do different is trim from the top, or angled to the top, not bottom..


What?! I've been angling mine from bottom-to-top. i.e longest at bottom, and short at the top. :blink:

When did this change come about? I've obviously not been keeping up well enough in here.
 

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Anyone using kanger subtank mini with rayon? If yes, please post some pics of your setup

Yes I am, however I am rebuilding the OCC heads with it as they give me great service and increased juice capacity. And they are the easiest "disposable" heads I have ever rebuilt and I have played with many. I will take a picture for you but it looks no different than one right out of the package. :)
 

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What?! I've been angling mine from bottom-to-top. i.e longest at bottom, and short at the top. :blink:

When did this change come about? I've obviously not been keeping up well enough in here.

That's what I was thinking; just when I think I know what I'm doing Jeremy posts a pic and :facepalm:
 

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Yes I am, however I am rebuilding the OCC heads with it as they give me great service and increased juice capacity. And they are the easiest "disposable" heads I have ever rebuilt and I have played with many. I will take a picture for you but it looks no different than one right out of the package. :)
Thanks for the info!
 

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What?! I've been angling mine from bottom-to-top. i.e longest at bottom, and short at the top. :blink:

When did this change come about? I've obviously not been keeping up well enough in here.

It will be short at the top and long on the bottom, that's what I mean.:)

That's what I was thinking; just when I think I know what I'm doing Jeremy posts a pic and :facepalm:

I may have been misunderstood.. I'm a little under the weather today..

I meant how in vincoms pic his red lines are close at the base and wide at the top, mine are usually opposite... I'll have to edit the pic to show.. Different attys will be different and I don't doubt its working.




Black lines show the direction I cut.yellow is where the full wick ends. I usually separate 50-75% and make a straight cut at the top leaving the rest going down. Almost in a straight line.. (Right side is a little angled left looks more like what I would do.)

Not saying it won't work the other way with tail draping over the full wick but I have never done it that way. I have full fluffy wick up on top of the thinned tail.

Its more like an 80s mullet cut.

Hope this clarifies.
 
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This rendering was posted by someone here, if I can locate the post I will give them proper credit.
RAYON_TRIM_TAILS.jpg

That'd be me.. :)

That's why I was surprised I missed the upside down wedge cut, which turned out to be a false lead. ;)
 

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Whatever way works for you is all that matters.

My concern with the cut above is how close it gets to the coil up top.. I like it bushy at the top.. At higher wattage you need a little more capacity up top. My rule of thumb is make the cut almost straight with the chamber wall (or shape of chamber wall) at the bend down so the full coil wick extends to the end of the chamber.. With a little space normally. And the tail falling underneath it.. The Erl sounds like it likes to be cut touching against the wall.

This can reduce gunking... If your watting up high and don't have enough reservoir you can start to overheat the juice which will cause gunking.

Especially on the top of the coil..
 
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Like you said, whatever works. I find the close cuts work ok for me, but then I'm also rarely vaping higher than 12 - 15W in my tanks.

I aim for full concentration inside the coil, and then really thin out the sides coming down to the deck.
 
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I trim mine exactly opposite that diagram to insure the top of the coil is feed well. My theory is that the longer portion will feed the trimmed portion that it's draped over.

BENEAT,

The best angle of trim may depend on the Coriolis effect depending on which side to the equator you live in. :lol:
 
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