Rayon wick, better flow, flavor, saturation and Nic Hit!

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As I said in my last post, I'm very pleased with this vs. cotton. I believe it will last significantly longer as well, time will tell, but that was my biggest negative with cotton. On another topic, tencel is greatest in certain atty's, not so much for others. In particular, I could not get it to work well in the Fogger v4. It's just too "springy" to get into the channels. Plus the individual fibers separate, even when juiced. I imagine it would be equally difficult to use in the Aqua, Ithaka, and similar attys that require running the fiber through channels to work properly. But Taifun style, kayfun style, drippers, etc.- perfect.

Anyone have luck with the other mods mentioned here?

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the fibers don't stick together. I even tried straight VG. But I'm testing a different method with the Fogger v4- I just "circled" the tencel around the deck- since it wicks so fast, I don't *think* it will leak. It's only been about 30 min., but no leaking and GREAT vapor so far. But think of Tencel kind of like individual strands of hair. It has similar properties when trying to work with it.
 

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In some attys, it would probably work best to use it kind of like an e-cig, cig-a-like, or whatever those filters are called. Since it wicks so quickly and holds so much juice capacity, I have had luck so far with the Fogger v4 using a "wrap around" style build. Just make sure to wrap in the same direction that the chimney screws on. And don't lay the tencel directly on top of the coils. Wrap *around* the coils, use the posts and screw heads to hold the fibers in place. Hope this makes sense- (still experimenting)
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As I said in my last post, I'm very pleased with this vs. cotton. I believe it will last significantly longer as well, time will tell, but that was my biggest negative with cotton. On another topic, tencel is greatest in certain atty's, not so much for others. In particular, I could not get it to work well in the Fogger v4. It's just too "springy" to get into the channels. Plus the individual fibers separate, even when juiced. I imagine it would be equally difficult to use in the Aqua, Ithaka, and similar attys that require running the fiber through channels to work properly. But Taifun style, Kayfun style, drippers, etc.- perfect.

Anyone have luck with the other mods mentioned here?

-Gary

Have you tried sticking just one or two strands down the channels?
 

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Just finished building the flashi with the tencel. Really really good!
Straight up out of the bag. No prep.. The bag just smells like nothing -pure. The first hit; pure juice.

Here's the 3 oz of tencel top.

If you've had ramie you'll see the strand style is similar but lyocell fiber. I guess that's what top means..

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It's like a ball that unrolls.

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So my thoughts on the tencel top.. It is very good but it is different than the rayon I'm used to. The rayon I was using the strands weren't so individual they were mixed up and pulling on it would stretch it thinner and thinner till it pulled apart in the middle, and thinned to a point. The tencel *top is long straight fiber pulling a wick does nothing.. Apearently this is what top means.. The fibers are straight continuous strands. The rayon I used was more like cotton fibers that pull apart but more uniform.... So those issues you had in the v4 would not be a problem at all with the type I started with.. Now we have to figure out what type of fiber that is called because it's not called top...


At any rate this works absolutely great!
 
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Could it be cut up, mixed together, then compressed?

that's exactly what I was thinking..:) some way to get them jumbled. Maybe cut a bunch at like 3 inches and boil, mix around, then bring together.. but not sure if it would work.. Will play with it later this week.

The type you started with would likely melt when burned. I (personally) wouldn't want to vape that- but that's another issue. I really like tensel and will continue to use it instead of cotton for now. Although the v4 and similar type builds *are* a bit of a challenge.
-GT

No it most definitely will Not melt!!

It's essentially the same fiber as tencel except made with traditional viscose process. What I will be looking for is what cut that blend is because its not top, if I can find that blend in tencel even better. The type/cut I was using is exceptional and wouldn't have the problems of the straight *top fibers.
Questions on builds - the op of this thread is oddy and my Only rba during the 8 months I used the rayon on and off was an oddy clone. Same as ithica.

The top fiber cut/type is different from the pharmaceutical coil type I'm used to. The rayon i had is more like a cotton ball consistency or arrangement of fiber.. the top is more like hair. And I'm talking of the way the fibers are oriented. The ramie top looks much the same, continuous strands, the continuos strand is what *top means I guess.


@ Suspect - no it doesn't swell.
 
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OK, so i just bought mine from Man-Made Fibers - Mielke's Fiber Arts. luckily for me, they accepted PayPal and i had some money sitting there lol. hopefully it comes soon. i may pay it forward and send some samples out to interested parties who want to try it and don't want to commit to the price tag yet.
 
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