Rayon wick, better flow, flavor, saturation and Nic Hit!

[pi314]

For the EU guys, I'm testing o.b., I got the original ones, orange strip, super absorbent. For 2.8 EUR you get rayon for years. Verdict bellow

To be honest this is my first take on rayon, I was using KGD so far, so I have nothing else to compare it too. What I found was that rayon is much easier to work than cotton and seems to be a bit more polite than cotton on my throat and perhaps tonsils too, but I'm holding on on that till I test it further. It appears to hold a lot more juice and also provide a more consistent wicking. I also think that the taste is slightly more clean.

I'll need to test it a bit more, perhaps I should get some fiber freaks to have something to compare o.b. with. Nevertheless it seems I'm switching to rayon as well. Thanks Jeremy

 

[tchavei]

My wife didn't bring me any tampons. She thought I was joking

Have to get some today

Regards
Tony

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[pi314]

Hahahah. When you get them remember to remove the outer layer

 

[tchavei]

Hahahah. When you get them remember to remove the outer layer

What? I have to open it up??!?

I was thinking in sticking the whole tampon through the coil and then use the string as a quick removal method... Pull the string, wick/tampon comes out and ready for the next tampon?


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Tony

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[pi314]

Lol that would be convenient but I wasn't expecting you had such a powerful device, I tried that but neither the istick 20 nor the ego one battery could heat that large coil fast enough

I was talking about the polyester/polyethylene or polyethylene/polypropylene film, not the plastic wrap btw

 

[tchavei]

I know, I know

It would be cool having mini rayon "bullets" you could insert into a standard sized coil... Like a reloading magazine

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Tony

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[cobalt327]

I'm seeing Flash e-Vapor styled attys in v2 and v3- any preference between them? What are the differences?

 

[JeremyR]

V3 is the latest, the v3 clone is better. Better posts, better air flow. Hotcig is best. Make sure you have the pin in the base not the notch.

The tobeco v2 clones had uneven posts but was the only one that came with everything including the dripper, thats what I have.. The tank is straight, the v3 has that slight overlap on the threading.

 

[cobalt327]

Is the right version like the one from FT below? Arrows show "pin" and where pin locates- is this what you referred to above? The other sku at FT has the same type pin but brass posts. I'm guessing that's not the best type.

 

[cobalt327]

I think the one from focalecig looks good- has a plastic tank which I like so I can see liquid level. $26.17 Flash e-Vapor V3 Style Rebuildable Atomizer - Silver

Then there's two from gearbest (I have used GB and had no probs), one has the plastic tank and is $16.00: http://www.gearbest.com/electronic-cigarettes/pp_136754.html. The other one is $18.00 also w/clear tank, don't know what the difference between them is. http://www.gearbest.com/electronic-cigarettes/pp_137306.html

 

[SlickWilly]

Is the right version like the one from FT below? Arrows show "pin" and where pin locates- is this what you referred to above? The other sku at FT has the same type pin but brass posts. I'm guessing that's not the best type.


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cobalt,

That pin is the way the originals are made. Under the "Discussions" tab on your first link someone posted that one is not a hotcig clone but anyone can post anything there. I'd email them and ask first.

I bought my V3 hotcig from focal --> Flash e-Vapor V3 Styled Rebuildable Atomizer by Hotcig It's the 22.9mm size and very well made, there is a review of this one on youtube where the fellow say's it's the best clone and he swaps parts from the clone to the original to show how they are identical.

Focal also has the VS 17mm hotcig clone on sale for $15.80 right now here --> Flash e Vapor VS Style Rebuildable Atomizer by Hotcig I've got to get my order in before they are gone!

If focal has stuff made by hotcig they state it in the listings.

 

[JeremyR]

For the EU guys, I'm testing o.b., I got the original ones, orange strip, super absorbent. For 2.8 EUR you get rayon for years. Verdict bellow

To be honest this is my first take on rayon, I was using KGD so far, so I have nothing else to compare it too. What I found was that rayon is much easier to work than cotton and seems to be a bit more polite than cotton on my throat and perhaps tonsils too, but I'm holding on on that till I test it further. It appears to hold a lot more juice and also provide a more consistent wicking. I also think that the taste is slightly more clean.

I'll need to test it a bit more, perhaps I should get some fiber freaks to have something to compare o.b. with. Nevertheless it seems I'm switching to rayon as well. Thanks Jeremy

Welcome Pi !

Glad your liking it..!!..

Just wait till you think its time to rewick on a cotton time frame.. Nope not with rayon..

Most of us have reduced our nic and flavoring by 1/3.

So are those 100% rayon fibers then? Or blended?

Again welcome to the next level of wicking.

 

[justdoeit]

I have the Focal Flash V3 clone and you have to watch out for 2 things.

1st - oring seal isn't the greatest. With my authentic, I can pick my mod up by the drip tip and everything stays together. On the clone, if I pick it up this way, I end up only lifting the flash-e chamber and my mod and Flash deck fall off.

2nd, I was able to easily unscrew the base. With everything together, I was able to turn and unscrew the base. The "notch" allows for easy turning. Cant do this on my authentic, though haven't tried too hard. But with clone did this without much effort.

A buddy bought the FT one and everything was the same, except this base unscrewing - his seemed snug (and the blue bag / different screwdriver included)


Also, there is an advantage to the non 1:1 with the backward notch. With the Authentic (and 1:1), you can use the tank on other 22mm drippers. With the non 1:1, you can use the Flash-E deck with any (most) 22mm dripper caps

 

[JeremyR]

Yeah the quality fit and finish is definitely better with authentic. But at a much higher cost of course. I put some Teflon under the base orings. That tightened them up haven't touched it for about a year.
We should probably discuss this in the fev by Artur thread, maybe repost that there? Good info.

Oh, I personally have to have full stainless tank, I don't want any broken window crap from dropping.

Please discuss in the fev thread, it need this knkwledge.. this one is the largest and most complete fev thread.

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...or-v2-rba-artur-schwarze-12.html#post15539510

Edit:
Oh guys hope you don't mind.. I transplanted this discussion over to that thread. Good info in those posts.

 

[cobalt327]

Works for me, thanks.

 

[pi314]

So are those 100% rayon fibers then? Or blended?

Well, it's my first time with rayon. I can't really tell. Their website says it's composed of 2 types of rayon, so I expect no cotton or some type of plastic fibres in there. I tried burning it and it disintegrated to almost nothing. The smell was similar to paper but not as harsh to my nostrils. In a twisted way it was kind of pleasant

One thing I can tell for sure is that it tastes different than KGD. I usually vape unflavoured vg but I noticed it changes the way flavoured juices taste as well. I don't know how to describe it, perhaps more woody or velvety? Someone more experienced than me should try o.b.s, or I should get some fibre freaks to have something to compare them with

The other thing I noticed is that it does indeed give more throat hit than KGD. However for some reason it is somehow smoother than non ideally wicked cotton. Perhaps because it is much easier to wick and hence more forgiving? I like its TH. Using vg with low nicotine anyway. With KGD TH is non existent. I don't really like intense TH so with this combination o.b. rayon adds just the right amount into the mix


Edit: I'm sorry, I guess I was too hasty to jump into conclusions. I managed to get a sore throat T_T
I do get that from cotton too sometimes and I thought I found the holy grail with rayon. Luckily I found that older post of yours jeremy so it seems I need to work on my wicking skills. Back to the drawing board!

 

[JeremyR]

Examine each problem wick before you remove. Check the density and tightness in the coil. Push down on the wick to see if it stays in contact with the edge of the coil.. If its too loose the coil can dry giving burnt taste or coil dry hits at higher power or chain vaping.

It sound to me though like its probably ly slightly too tight. The woody taste is the rayon from being too tight. Unlike cotton its still capable when its too tight.

The density is very forgiving depending on your power level. If your getting a neutral woody taste still after 5-10 hits its a little too tight.. Some times it will vape out, but what i do is...

I separate needle sized pieces of fiber and pull them out of the coil and test. I do this till the woody taste is gone and the juice flavor pops. It makes it easier to find out how much over on density you went and also prevents needing to rewick and try to get the right density. It beats trying over again and crossing your fingers.

Sore throat can be common when switching because of the different vapor production with rayon. Its more misted than cotton which is more smokey. Thus the nicotine delivery is increased from the higher juice content in the vapor which hits your throat.. Thats where some if the increased th comes from.

It has been determined by most the the nic hit is increased by about 30%.
I went down from 12 to 8mg or 1/3. Rayon vapor packs a punch, it intensifies everything. Just do a test fire before you put it together and watch the juice particals explode out like fire works.

Oh with rayon the coil is so saturated that you need to go up a little in power to compensate.

 

[tchavei]

Hi guys

Just got my tidi balls. They are those small ones so it's really kinda pricey... 2 bucks for 10 tiny balls... That's maybe 20 wicks

Anyway... WOW... I feel it's much better than Sally's. I have twice the vapor production, my erlp chucks happily at 40W without a single hiss and boy are those rayon fibers fluffy... I love it!

Best thing after a ménage à trois


Regards
Tony

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[JeremyR]

Excellent tony!

The fliffiness has more outward pressure on the coil so it keeps better contact and juice transfer. IMO.

Well with DNA one should last you a month at least if not two..

 

[tchavei]

Excellent tony!

The fliffiness has more outward pressure on the coil so it keeps better contact and juice transfer. IMO.

Well with DNA one should last you a month at least if not two..

I'm doing titanium experiments so it won't last a week before a rewick and recoil. In the past four days I have rewicked and recoiled more than in the past 6 months lol

Regarding the tidi balls, I'm truly impressed with the fiber. It gives you more work to unroll the fibers but then it's wonderful to wick and to use.



Regards
Tony

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