Rebuildable Tank Atomizers - An Anthology, Pictorial, Builds and Reviews.
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Yeah, we talked about sucking A55 a couple days agoHehe, been there done that, a page or two back
Edit: for those who don't know, A55 = Air 5plitter 5ystem remember
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Lol i had read your posts but didn't get it until now. I guess i need some things spelled out for me haha
Merkava video I watched had my attention, looks promising.
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Phen-Lite has Juice Control. Any atty which has a JC will not have any issues with the viscosity of our e-liquids. So yes, the Phen-Lite works well with high VG juices too.
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I'm waiting on the MiniDrip and MicroDrip. This looks very interesting but the price is kind of shocking to me. The MiniDrip is $35, which is a big reason why i bought it. Where else can you get an authentic 316ss dripper for that price. The Merkava is very similar in size, the deck is different and since it is an RTA it has a chimney. I don't know, doesn't seem like that's $64 more dollars worth of parts compared to the MiniDrip. Maybe i'm missing something but i would have expected it to be around $70-75ish at the most.
I'm waiting on the MiniDrip and MicroDrip. This looks very interesting but the price is kind of shocking to me. The MiniDrip is $35, which is a big reason why i bought it. Where else can you get an authentic 316ss dripper for that price. The Merkava is very similar in size, the deck is different and since it is an RTA it has a chimney. I don't know, doesn't seem like that's $64 more dollars worth of parts compared to the MiniDrip. Maybe i'm missing something but i would have expected it to be around $70-75ish at the most.[/QUOTE]
Not sure where they get their price from but some of it could be the longer milling times that the deck requires. I don't know it seems about right to me when compared to other RTA'S like the Calix, Tilemahos, Phenom etc.
Perhaps the drippers are priced cheaply making the RTA look expensive?
Oh and it's not glass it's PMMA, must be a translation thing.
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Yeah I assumed it was a lost on translation deal too, and for a nice RTA, the price seems just right. I don't think you can really compare it price wise to those drippers, and I'm sure the time consuming way they mill the deck is a large part of it.
Either way, it looks really interesting to me, I'm definitely intrigued.
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Yea, people have this misconception that material is the primary driver of cost. Nope. Machine runtime is where all the costs lie. The more complex the machining, the longer it takes to make one. Looking at the Merkava, I can see that it definitely takes a bit more time for that deck. Which in turn, costs more money to make, despite any difference in material costs. Also, when you mill something from a larger piece, you're going to end up with more wasted/excess material that is removed from the larger piece. You don't know how much total material they start with before ending up with the final machined part. That also doesn't factor in the time and effort these guys spend designing, prototyping, etc.
For every product you buy, you are paying for time spent developing and manufacturing. Material makes up a very small part of the cost for almost any product. You're also paying for profit margin, because every one deserves to be paid for their time and energy, right?
For every product you buy, you are paying for time spent developing and manufacturing. Material makes up a very small part of the cost for almost any product. You're also paying for profit margin, because every one deserves to be paid for their time and energy, right?
One other thing to mention, a modder in the US or Greece, France, UK etc will undoubtedly sell a lot of their product domestically, I'm not sure that's the case with mini e-cig, does Israel have a vaping community large enough to support a domestic modder without international sales?
Their products might be priced lower than they'd like to attract foreign purchases, hence the low price of the drippers?
Just a thought.....
Their products might be priced lower than they'd like to attract foreign purchases, hence the low price of the drippers?
Just a thought.....
There seem to be quite a few Russian modders living in Israel, and there have been a few devices I had never even heard of because they don't really sell or advertise them internationally. It would seem there is actually a pretty large vaping scene in Israel, or near there.
Many of the high end attys we buy aren't always produced in really large numbers, they just sell worldwide. I imagine they could sustain a living selling in the hundreds of units regionally, but I don't really know, interesting thoughts you propose there.
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Btw, Israel is perhaps the only country where nearly every smoker has converted to being a vaper. The society and the Govt both seems to be the most affable to vaping out there.
Yes, their MOH, as usual, is gunning against e-cigs, however the rest of the political apparatus hardly seem to care. And btw, Israel also probably has / had the highest population of smokers
I've noticed this change, first hand, since 2013. Every smoker I know [there] - is a vaper now
And also to note that Yaeliq is the largest reseller of e-liquids out there.But all the above has nothing to do with your point re: Mini-E-cig's pricing, which imo is well said by you.
K4 dethroned, got this figured out and will be my daily workhorse. I love this style tank. Vape production is secondary to me, but it is fun hot boxing the M.
I'm not saying the Merkava isn't worth the price or that it's not priced fairly compared with other RTAs, i just didn't think it would be three times the price of their dripper (which is basically a tank without the chimney, not like other drippers). They are pretty much the same size so i would expect they started with the same size materiel. The deck on the MiniDrip, while not as complicated as the Merkava, is far from your standard three post design. There is definitely some milling time involved there as well. I guess i just didn't think the extra milling time between the two decks would cause that much of a price difference. I'll probably end up with one eventually so i'll see first hand if it's worth it.
No other thread for this, but hoping some of you vets can take a look at tonight's build. Perhaps Taifun gt2 users.
I'm trying to build up shoulders around the coil, keeping half a wick inside and half outside, but short enough not to have a top cap squishing the rayon down. I had used Todds method all day at work...but he cuts in half and folds the top wicks into the barrel and had a hiccup....weird too, not a dry hit but like I had closed all airflow off.
Vaping now with really good results, but advice appreciated as I want to use with confidence.
I'm trying to build up shoulders around the coil, keeping half a wick inside and half outside, but short enough not to have a top cap squishing the rayon down. I had used Todds method all day at work...but he cuts in half and folds the top wicks into the barrel and had a hiccup....weird too, not a dry hit but like I had closed all airflow off.
Vaping now with really good results, but advice appreciated as I want to use with confidence.
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