Reservoir Straw & Plug Mod (RSP Mod)

[umjim]

Hi all.I'm trying to figure out which BP I need to buy.There are several listed on the walgreens site. Any help would be appreciated and thanks for your hard work, everyone ,on a very perplexing problem. I,m not allowed to post links but it is on Walgreens website under Facial cleansing sponges

 

[kristin]

Hi Umjim, I use this one:
Facial Cleansing Sponges | Walgreens

 

[kristin]

Eureka!!!
I finally have had success with only a plug with no straw!!!
I’m not sure why it worked this time but it does and no flooding. The plug is slightly larger than the mouth of the cart and half the size of the length of the cavity. I’m on my second refill. So far so good.

That's cool, maxxdog! Do you need to remove the plug to refill? Is it still vaping dry?

 

[kristin]

I'm on my 4th cart of peach with this fresh plug and it's still working. It definitely needs to be flush with the end of the cart and the fibers need to be separated a bit to allow the bridge to enter without pushing it back. I forgot to seperate them once and production fell off quickly. I checked and the plug somehow was pushed back a bit. I pulled it back to the end and "fluffed" it a bit to loosen it up in the center and it's good as new.

 

[maxxdog]

That's cool, maxxdog! Do you need to remove the plug to refill? Is it still vaping dry?

I have to remove the plug to refill. It will vape dry. But the bad news is the second run hasn't worked as well.

I noticed the vapor production has fallen off. I just took the cart off and the plug has been pushed back. I'm thinking the filler material has settled in to it's home and has sized it self to the cart interior size. I'll try refluffing and see how it goes. "fingers crossed"

Update: just refluffed and found that the cart was empty. The filler must have shrunk as it dried out. Just reloaded for test 3! This is promising!!!

I'm glad I'm using low nic....wooooooohhhhhh feelng wOzZY

 

[kristin]

I have to remove the plug to refill. It will vape dry. But the bad news is the second run hasn't worked as well.

I noticed the vapor production has fallen off. I just took the cart off and the plug has been pushed back. I'm thinking the filler material has settled in to it's home and has sized it self to the cart interior size. I'll try refluffing and see how it goes. "fingers crossed"

Update: just refluffed and found that the cart was empty. The filler must have shrunk as it dried out. Just reloaded for test 3! This is promising!!!

I'm glad I'm using low nic....wooooooohhhhhh feelng wOzZY

Hey, don't hurt yourself! LOL! 8-o

 

[fanofwalt]

I've been going back and forth between using: (2 stir sticks w/BP plug) (one straw w/BP plug) (BP plug alone) (BP full length wick) and (2 stir sticks w/white Fluval). The best vapor I've achieved so far in all those variations was, by far, the 2 stir sticks w/white Fluval - BUT - that could simply be due to unintentional imprecisions in cutting, stuffing, etc. the materials. I haven't yet found the sweet spot to keep my plug from falling into the atty during vaping, except with the Fluval -- again, I suspect that has more to do with chancing upon a best fit while using that particular material.

I do find that, indeed, the BP vapes to a dry finish. Not a drop left on it. Wow.

Has anyone else tried to roll a slice of BP to achieve proper compression? I had hoped that by rolling a thin slice of BP like a carpet, with the spiraled ends up/down, that action might allow the BP material to spring against the walls of the cart snugly and sufficiently without becoming too compressed to allow juice to flow. Sadly, as I've attempted this maneuver, I've mostly managed to ball the whole thing up so that it becomes a bit of a wadded mess, so I can't report on the actual success of this idea. Anyone else give that a go? Any success?

 

[Hockeytown]

Sounds promising - let us know!

I was wondering about just cutting a straw "ring" that is held in the cart, by tension, near the top of the cart - one that doesn't go all the way to the bottom of the cart. Sort of like the sideways spring.

Wait...did someone here already try that?? I can't remember now, but it sounds familiar, lol!

It may slowly get pushed into the cart during refills, though. I don't know...

I've seen plastic paperclips. I wonder if you could use one of those in place of the spring somehow?

 

[McVapor]

This is the best mod ever! Thanks!

 

[kristin]

I've been going back and forth between using: (2 stir sticks w/BP plug) (one straw w/BP plug) (BP plug alone) (BP full length wick) and (2 stir sticks w/white Fluval). The best vapor I've achieved so far in all those variations was, by far, the 2 stir sticks w/white Fluval - BUT - that could simply be due to unintentional imprecisions in cutting, stuffing, etc. the materials. I haven't yet found the sweet spot to keep my plug from falling into the atty during vaping, except with the Fluval -- again, I suspect that has more to do with chancing upon a best fit while using that particular material.

I do find that, indeed, the BP vapes to a dry finish. Not a drop left on it. Wow.

Has anyone else tried to roll a slice of BP to achieve proper compression? I had hoped that by rolling a thin slice of BP like a carpet, with the spiraled ends up/down, that action might allow the BP material to spring against the walls of the cart snugly and sufficiently without becoming too compressed to allow juice to flow. Sadly, as I've attempted this maneuver, I've mostly managed to ball the whole thing up so that it becomes a bit of a wadded mess, so I can't report on the actual success of this idea. Anyone else give that a go? Any success?

Fan, if you're orientating the material properly, you need only cut a slightly longer piece to get the right compression.

Picture taking a long strip of paper and folding it back and forth, like an accordian, then squeezing it together. It naturally wants to open up. Same with the BP. If it's wide enough, as it opens, it'll hold itself inside the cart by pressing on the sides of the cart. But, if you put it in the cart the wrong way, it'll expand into the cart instead or into the atty chamber and then leak around the edges or get pulled out by hooking on the atty bridge.

Rolling it would completely defeat the purpose of using the BP material.

That being said, I used this peach BP all night without issue, but today, after a refill, I've had it pull into the atty twice this morning. I think I may have put it back in the wrong direction. I just turned it - hopefully that was the issue, because it worked great all day yesterday!

 

[kristin]

I have to remove the plug to refill. It will vape dry. But the bad news is the second run hasn't worked as well.

I noticed the vapor production has fallen off. I just took the cart off and the plug has been pushed back. I'm thinking the filler material has settled in to it's home and has sized it self to the cart interior size. I'll try refluffing and see how it goes. "fingers crossed"

Update: just refluffed and found that the cart was empty. The filler must have shrunk as it dried out. Just reloaded for test 3! This is promising!!!

I'm glad I'm using low nic....wooooooohhhhhh feelng wOzZY

I forgot to ask - how many drops do you get into the cart this way?

 

[ProfessorDaffy]

I forgot to ask - how many drops do you get into the cart this way?

What a funny question. I was getting 12 drops into a round cart and on this latest one I used a whistle tip and I'm getting 15. Anyone else notice this?

Day 3 and still going well. Pad material is turning dark, but I think that's from the juice. Dripping always did use up juice faster and I seem to be vaping like a fiend. Went to pick up pads from Home Depot. It was only $2.50 for four. That should make about 400+ plugs. Not too shabby! Even if I choose to replace the plug (instead of cleaning since it's so tiny) this should last me a year. I hated throwing away fiber fill that still had juice stuck in it! Not any more!

--Prof Daffy
P.S. Just got some new juice in, can't wait to actually taste it!

 

[maxxdog]

I forgot to ask - how many drops do you get into the cart this way?

Well, test 3 worked. I measured out .5ml of liquid +/- what ever was left in the syringe needle. Next refill when I get home i'll count drops.

These carts don't hold much but then again how much do they really need to hold? I'm after consistency in vapor production.

I just pulled the plug (pun ) and measured it. (8x6x13mm) It seems to be tapered due to settling. The cart is bone dry.

 

[dopeless-hopefiend]

can't wait to try this one! just received my joye510 in the mail yesterday and been vapin' it with stock poly filler...and I think its working pretty good. I cant wait to see how much difference this mod makes!

 

[maxxdog]

The cart is holding 20-21 drops.

Surprise! Test 4 worked like a charm. Yes I made a second long plug cart. Worked like a champ. Cart was EMPTY....

I just made a 3rd test cart to the same spec. So far so good.

I think the dimension of the plug is allowing it to bell at the mouth of the cart. I don't shove the plug all the way in the cart. The plug sticks out of the cart 1-2 mm. I think the BP filler is the magic pill.

EDIT: Opps flooded atty. Make that 18-19 drops.

 

[maxxdog]

AHHHHhhhhhhh much better. I hate flooded atties.

 

[kristin]

Maxx - What kind of cart do you have? 510? I can get 12 drops in my 510 - so that gives an idea how much room the straw takes.

You cut the BP so the channels are running lengthwise with the cart, right? And you leave filler hanging out of the cart? What is the purpose of that?

I think I figured a 510 is about 15mm deep, so if you're cutting the plug to 13mm and leaving 2mm out of the plug, you're filling all but 4mm of the cart?

Sorry...trying to picture this....

 

[kristin]

I just pulled the plug (pun ) and measured it. (8x6x13mm) It seems to be tapered due to settling. The cart is bone dry.

So, looking at a cart opening from above, it's about 4mm wide and 7mm long, on the interior edges. You're making the plug 13mm deep (into the cart) and letting 1-2mm stick out?

Whenever I cut the plug wider than 4mm, it's almost impossible to get into the cart, since it doesn't naturally compress that direction. Could be because it's such a small piece I'm using....

 

[maxxdog]

So, looking at a cart opening from above, it's about 4mm wide and 7mm long, on the interior edges. You're making the plug 13mm deep (into the cart) and letting 1-2mm stick out?

Whenever I cut the plug wider than 4mm, it's almost impossible to get into the cart, since it doesn't naturally compress that direction. Could be because it's such a small piece I'm using....

Howdy,

The plug I measured is the used one. It probably didn't start of as 13mm. more like 10-11mm total with the 1-2mm offset sticking out. (I'm confusing myself)

I've been fighting atty flooding. I changed my juice and can't get it to work.

I have one word.....................SEN......SI....TIVE! I want to cry. It has been working perfect.

The reason I leave it out a little is that when I push the cart into the atty the plug makes good contact with the atty. In theory it should slide back some because there is not a stopper (straw) behind it. When I check it I see a nice indention in the plug and it is even with the top of the cart.

I measured 3 carts and I swear I counted 20-21 drops. With full length filler I was getting 14-15. So I have a net gain of 5 drops. That's actually a lot, 30% gain. A more consevative estimate would be 2-3 drop gain. I probably over loaded the cart. 3 drops is still a 20% gain.

This maybe good on my Xhaler that I have coming in. I won't fear running dry with this plug juice combo. I just swapped atty and new cart with same half plug test. All better. Hitting like a truck.

Sorry I forgot I'm using a 510. I would think that 4mm would be easier to insert. I've been using a pair of tweesers to insert the plug. That may be a reason or I can't read a ruler.

 

[kristin]

OK, Maxx, I'm trying this strawless version of yours. I followed your measurements, but maybe I do need to trim it a little shorter, then, if you think it stretched out a bit.

After about 4-5 draws, it started to dry a bit, but a bit of a "thermometer shake" and it good again. maybe it's packed in too much, being too long. I'll use it a while longer and see how it goes!

Today, with the plug, I was battling it getting pulled into the atty.

This material is great - it's just a matter of getting the right dimensions!!

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