Shinyitis Support Group

[Tralfaz]

Oh, just that Zeus X, G.R.1 and some more juice. Might have something more exciting later in the week, though.

 

[stols001]

You would be shocked how many chronic pain clients end up in maintenance therapy. They bottom out. No does is enough. Opiates worsen chronic pain, they really do.

Fortunately for the husband (he pulverized 3 vertebrae in his neck, he could have all the opiates in the world by walking into ANY doctor's office) he kind of came to that realization. He barely ever even takes Advil because he says if he hurts, he needs to feel it. He does appear to really enjoy "sleep" though, the time during which he is not in pain. He's also surprisingly mobile for a dude who was supposed to be a quad.

There are times not listening to your doctor is good. Etc. Not always, but the overuse of opioids in chronic pain... I'm glad it's coming to an end. Etc.

Back to shiny. IT is not my tank or coil on the cube that is at fault. It is the cube and it's pin (maybe). It's not reading coils. I had such I high hopes. Gonna mess with it later.

Anna

 

[Old Greybeard]

Afternoon shinies,

Its a Sunday, so no shiny deliveries. Might get something from FT this week, but I'm not holding my breath.

Last night was great night out, I commandeered a covered outside area to stay relatively sheltered. Even managed to find the two books I wanted to lend out before I left.

It's lasagne tonight. If I get my skates on, I might have it ready for when Mrs OG returns from work. If I can find the lasagne that is. We are currently on store cupboard reorganization version 72.1, so wish me luck.

Great idea dear! It's dirt cheap and quite effective, although the plunging action could be a little tiresome for some people.

Not sure how well this would work with really cold VG, but I'm tempted though ...

 

[Skeebo]

I busted my knee up pretty bad when I was 32. The doctor gave me a shot of tramadol and I'll never forget it. My wife said I told her, " I am so happy I wouldn't care if I died right now". I guess it was the pain, but I didn't remember telling her that. Anyway, I could definitely see myself falling in love with the stuff. The instances where I have needed pain meds I always tell the doctor to only prescribe me 7 pills. I'll take them when I really need to and suffer the rest of the time.

 

[AngeNZ]

Morning shinies

I've got no vapemail coming

So I'm doing this to rectify the situation

 

[Susaz]

Good morning shiners! A snowy Sunday awaits. They still can't give an accurate prediction of totals yet, but they did raise it from a watch to a warning, which can't be a good thing.

So playing around yesterday I found two juices never opened I forgot I had. A sorta pleasant surprise as it feels like I just got a fresh order of juice delivered and I didn't have to wait for the mailman.

Are you in the state or the city? I used to love Yorktown Heights, where a family I grew up with lived. The NYC outskirts are lovely.
(Seems I'm having a bad english day. Please excuse any inconvenience, it'll be promptly solved)

 

[Susaz]

USA is in the strong holds of the worst Epidemic of Opioid crisis ever. Much worse than the 60's. It is every where. Small rural towns to big cities.
In the 80's a younger group forward thinking DR's realized that Opiates relieved pain but were not being used due to the addiction factor. Their thoughts were "who cares about the addiction factor if it gives a quality of life to a dying person that would be incapacitated without pain meds." Then they came back on the market to be doled out to anyone that had the slightest pain. In a major way with what they call pain management centers. Money making clinics for DRS that did not care to offer alternatives and just wrote a script every five minutes to some poor soul (self included) that had no idea of the addiction nightmare they were walking into head first.
I had the benefit of having already been an addict and having dealt with it there was no way I was going back so I quit within 2 months and went back to just living with pain. Others not so lucky and fast forward 5-10 years and your every day house wife and construction worker are Opioid addicts and getting it from their DR's so they assume this is alright. Add in the criminal force who realizes they can send their mother, brother and wife to pain management because everyone has a bit of a problem and the bar is so low as to who gets in (are you breathing? OK you are in) and now the opiates are hitting the black market for the construction workers kids to learn to love. Someone realizes a huge mistake was made by these forward thinking DR's of the 80's and the government decides to start scrutinizing the DRS giving it out. "Send these people to surgery they scream" Do more to get them off this scary drug" "Lets tighten up and make them hard to get" forget the pain of real people that might need them and just cut everybody off. Now the construction workers kid turns to ...... because it is easier to get (and cheaper) and he might even take his mom down the ...... road with him because she is an addict too and sees no alternative. The crisis is huge and there is a product of this travesty in every wake of ones life.

Happened to me too, I was living in MI by the time the opioid nightmare hit. Here Tramadol is prescribed in certain cases like mine, where I need painkillers but can't have due to heart issues. And yet, you don't see opioid addicts here while in America is a full blown problem.
When people here watch Dr House or Nurse Jackie, they often ask. But there's no real explanation.

 

[Susaz]

Burnos dios you lot. Man, tons to do today.

Oh well only 4 more weekends at most Hopefully.

Anna

Buenos dias Anna. Dormiste bien? Que tengas un buen dia.

 

[Susaz]

Never heard of that, but then, out here we don’t have manhole covers and tunnels.

We changed from salt to some sort of beet root spray. Seems to do the trick. Too late for my car and truck though, already rusty. Not available for home use yet, but I’m keeping a look out for it. I went through 80lbs of salt so far. And it wasn’t really a bad winter.

Here I've seen manhole covers shot up in the sky 4 meters with heavy rain in flooding areas. Thankfully now have better restraints, stopped being an isuue

 

[Susaz]

This was yesterday ( I think, these things sorta blend together) Manhole Fires Burn 9+ Hours in Brooklyn, Knock Out Power

Fun times

You know, idiots here say "in developed countries you don't have power outtages". Unfortunately here with heat waves you always have serious power outtages that last for several days. Fortunately the grid is not so overloaded in winter, since rain (even with serious floods) is not so damaging.

 

[Susaz]

Tramadol is a synthetic opiate, it's rather similar to kratom actually, but as a synthetic opiate it got to be manufactured as "addiction free" for a while, and I had the distinct misfortunate of being prescribed it for about 18 months for my treatment resistant depression. To be fair, there was some data for it off label, and me and my doc were pretty desperate by then. There's addicted, then there is dead.

It was completely unscheduled Forever, and my first "ultram taper plan" was no fun. Then I relapsed on it a few times (you would be shocked how many internet prescription mills were hocking it at the time) and tapering off that was no fun whatsoever.

My final relapse was pretty epic (previous times were like, I was afraid of seizures so I sort of ceilinged it) and I actually got on Suboxone not because I would not have tapered at home, I would have, but I had no idea how much I was taking, like handfuls.

I came of Suboxone and I'm really glad I did maintenance for a while, because that was.... You aren't going to die during a Suboxone taper but I sure wished I would. I have heard methadone's worse, but Suboxone's combined half-life meant detox lasted 96 days or longer. To be fair, I really only wanted to die consistently for oh about the first 60 days.

The thing that annoyed me? I DID my RESEARCH and so did my doc and EVERYONE was swearing up, down and sideways it was FINE. Totally harmless. Uh huh.

I'm glad it's scheduled and I am glad I did MY research and cleaned out my opiate receptors in a way that is so illegal in the US, I will not list it here.

It worked. I haven't had a craving since, and as far as I'm concerned, I'd rather be put in an artificial coma than like, take an opiate Ever Again.

Of course, you' d be shocked at what you can handle with just Advil, if you decide to. I mean.... Think about it. People used to go to the dentist without Novocain even. They didn't enjoy it but they DID it.

AFAIK, opiates are useful for extremely acute, intense pain for a few days where the person doesn't have an addiction history or it runs in their family.

Otherwise, save it for fatal cancers and the like. If I ever get a fatal cancer I plan to WAFT out of this world in a CLOUD of opiates, but if there is a 1% chance I might recover-- no opiates.

The epidemic is so bad in Baltimore they are handing out free Naltrexone injections to anyone willing to have one. They were, anyway.

Pain clinics (good ones) are great for chronic pain. There are so many things you can do other than opiates. Including teaching the person "how to deal with pain." You have to learn, it's a skill. But, opiates are indeed a cancer across the land.

I hope the mopping up (which to some extent is happening) continues to work, but where there is demand, there will also be supply.

Just like cigarettes, I know each and every way to get my hands on Ultram (and I have). I am quite sure I could obtain some today, and there is in fact some in the house, because we used it on our dog during rattlesnake bites.

I just get to accept (like cigarettes) I am not going to use it. There is one hell I will never voluntarily enter again.

Anna

I agree with you about Advil. Here's used for most headaches, but most over the counter meds are ibuprofen, bad for the liver. I can't take any of those due to my diabetes. But Naproxen is getting more prescribed and it's safe for my heart.
There's some pain that can't be dealt with. I've had a sore neck for as long as I can remember, and one excellent neurologist took it away with a minimal dose of amitriptilin, sometimes used for idiopatic pain. I've been in pain, one way or another most of my life. And the clinic teaches you, but, to some extent.

 

[Gallant]

Good morning shiners! A snowy Sunday awaits.

Good morning Shiny's
Sleet/snow and freezing temps.

Good morning
No snow or sleet however it is -29 in here adding the wind factor makes it -35
Found nothing better than staying home having my morning coffee while browsing the net could not resist this little device the grey in the cart went
Search - 3FVape

 

[the wind]

This was yesterday ( I think, these things sorta blend together) Manhole Fires Burn 9+ Hours in Brooklyn, Knock Out Power

Fun times

Not sure what's worse,i need to start on my ark.just as soon as I'm done with my re-wicking.

 

[jandrew]

Morning shinies

I've got no vapemail coming

So I'm doing this to rectify the situation

That's the spirit ...


if need be, activate the Omega 13.

 

[Susaz]

At last we didn't go to Gualeguaychu for Carnaval. Maybe tomorrow. I'm digging in my closet for my fall clothes, days are getting cooler although I think we'll have hot days well into May. But, better safe than sorry!
In the shinies drawer, I still want the Elevate that didn't buy last month due to buying the Rage. Here everything is strictly cash, and using the credit card nowadays has an interest rate of 120% yearly! So, strictly cash.
I am planning to buy some 100 ml bottles for steeping, locally made. They look nice!

 

[Zazie]

Good morning
No snow or sleet however it is -29 in here adding the wind factor makes it -35
Found nothing better than staying home having my morning coffee while browsing the net could not resist this little device the grey in the cart went
Search - 3FVape

I like the looks of that.

 

[Zazie]

Whoops, I see that it is literally shiny. Good. I don't have to consider it now.

 

[chanelvaps]

Happened to me too, I was living in MI by the time the opioid nightmare hit. Here Tramadol is prescribed in certain cases like mine, where I need painkillers but can't have due to heart issues. And yet, you don't see opioid addicts here while in America is a full blown problem.
When people here watch Dr House or Nurse Jackie, they often ask. But there's no real explanation.

My story has a very sad part. When I was sent to the pain management center, it was easy to see what I would turn into if I continued just from the waiting room. Grown people crying and claiming their dog ate their medicine and please please give me some more. There were signs all over "we do not care what your excuse is, do not ask for more" Scary.
Because I was in real pain and knew in about 10 years it would be worse, I talked myself into going to the clinic, getting my prescription, filling it at the pharmacy and then stock piling it for the day I really needed it. We are not talking about Tramadol, mild in comparison. I was getting 60-90 Oxycontin as month, with another 60 Vicodin for break through pain.
When my stash was more than 10-12 filled scripts I stopped and told the DR I was detoxing. He argued with me about why I should not. Scary again.
The sad part comes in here. I was not hiding them well. Under my sink in my own bathroom in a cosmetic bag or something. Once I stopped I had no reason to check on them or go into the bag. About a year later I discovered the bag was empty. This was at the same time had been fighting with my daughter about strange behavior and her seeming to be on drugs. She did not not live with me but had access to my home. I did not see her a lot, maybe 1-2 times a month. So yes folks, I supplied my daughter (unknowingly, but STILL) and she eventually turned to the H word. I spent 10 years trying to get her off. I could not do the tough love I was being taught in al-anon because there was that factor. I had caused it.

 

[TrollDragon]

Kali V2 on the Drone and a little 18350 love. The Gear closed off to half AF with the small bore drip tip is a very decent vape on the Cthulhu Tube mod. A blistering 6/5 spaced wrap of 26ga N80 brings the fiya!

Once the Black Kayfun 2019's arrive at the Chinese Majors, there will be one on this tube.

 

[chanelvaps]

newest rotten metal.