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You will probably need to play with the power, temp and wire TCR value until you get it dialed in. The Drag is a little odd with it's TCR value and I think Anthony had to turn it up to 500F in his review.

Using a dripper is the easiest way to learn. Build a simple single coil, saturate the wick, vape till dry and the Drag should cut the power before the wick starts to burn. If the TC is not working properly you will get a dry hit, if the temp is too low it will cut power before the wick is dry.

If you are not getting a decent vape at all with a temp of 450F or higher it could be that the TCR value is too low and will need to be increased.

Also make sure the build vapes perfectly in power mode. It wouldn't be the first time trying to figure out why TC is hitting protection too soon, just to find out that there is a wicking problem and the coil isn't getting enough juice. ;)

I followed your advice and checked the TC on my Drag this morning. After rebuilding and juicing up the Wasp I vaped on it for several minutes. Eventually I noticed the amount of vapor starting to to drop off to almost nothing. Never did get a dry hit and when I removed the wick it was almost completely dry. Here's what it looked like
eRgpPSQzs5AhVumRRYlJDv2IEqsFGH38AgPSq_2dRdbw8IU3bhDSu75I9EOinfVPYPbXQxcDuxdyMHk1CN-q9bLTk731z_qYnfUsai0zQiIovNamwfEs3id8EKGaRm425ci5Y9pcbR16a9Gp8FcIrn2CMZulxXzYpxCtCLxUfhf0Ug1x1SAgl5jGGkRtdafX-ndT-xIHGW4faFHDwwb4Wr0yYbWX-YnsIQQhJubRzxHSoVo4JjKDo34oIpJevdi67M8vuAoz_FuvZtC8FvSQgMdDD8iEDsoUQTgwZC69_PfSRvrXrMIV9KsM_9rsrkImHm4n2BMSVkw8-xFAeLdx_IhaUznYadPHzI0NPqH7vy-uUnIkne0qI-wD9AwdTQ8PTEbhWVFsnSBDIxoGoLVe70TOf-wcWCu1pU829jwa5hJ2ZQ_50GJBSgkf0CJRJgWWtc5Yu1fz-Zo0XWNZAxcF5ZBrIfEt1W6Kf9qElFBEiLz9PpUok4BKtNuXZqPjAbBWZUQu1fR-4FmTRrTOc9JjiINTlks7NTRT4_cUnUXJW28a6JdQTFzh7E1X6-y37fy3nLoa1HE5Kd04PgLfujlp9r10_gFOfgt-xg=w478-h637-no

I'll have to remember to get some 0 nic juice the next time I decide to try out a mod's TC. Talk about nicotene overload!
 

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Question:

WTH are nic salts?

Been seeing a lot of posts about them lately
Not sure on the specifics. I use them in my MTL setup. High nicotine percentage and nice throat hit. The ones I have are 50/50 vg/pg
 

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I use nicotine salts exclusively in DIY mixes. I really like them. My understanding is that some form of acid (e.g. Juul uses benzoic acid I think? But you can convert your own freebase nic into nic salts with citric acid I believe?) or just buy them from a wholesaler. They are smoother and lack throat hit, which I don't really desire a throat hit when vaping, part of the reason I tried them. They are reportedly also more quickly bioavailable than regular freebase nicotine although I haven't noticed a huge difference, although I am at 18 nic which is actually not super high compared to some vendors.

You can buy the juice premade or simply DIY identically to regular nic in DIY mixes. I buy mine from Nicotine River, they arrive very pale yellow (which is normal) and the quality seemed high for all the batches I received. You can ask a vendor to send you a sample of wholesale nic juice usually just for the cost of shipping. If you DIY and are interested, could contact a couple vendors to see if there is one you prefer.

I find them useful, not everyone likes them but some people do. If you ARE looking for a throat hit, I'd probably suggest mixing them with your regular freebase nicotine if you are desiring to go slightly higher on nicotine levels but can't get there due to harshness. If you are merely curious, I'd certainly suggest ordering a sample to try out or a smaller bottle of premade juice.

Best of luck!

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Those are SO pretty.

Brad Pitt? He was married to what looks like the walking venereal disease to me, besides being a tragic midget. LOL.

Let's try: That dude who transports people places, Vin Disel (who made me feel less racist as he's the only attractive "Latino" I have found... Only to have my racism smashed upon finding out he's actually white, I think). Um... I always have a really hard time coming up with attractive actors.... And if I'm watching any movies they are the drive/kill/shoot/explosion movies as we each get a vote, but my son and husband are males. I can't even tolerate romantic comedies these days.... Makes me want to pull out my gun. LOL.

I'm sorry, I'm derailing. Those mods are gorgeous. And I usually don't even LIKE gold, who knew how good it could look on a mod.... :) Even my wedding rings are silver.

I don't like where this thread is taking me :) Gold mods, nope I'm sure that's not expensive at all.

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Midget like cruise lol.
Then maybe The Rock?
I wasn't partial to Pitts wife, always liked the Jennifer's more.
 

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I buzz so much already I don't know if I'd notice. LOL.

Wasn't the Rock like a wrestler. That's a hard "No." LOL. Do not make me tell my "Going to WrestleMania while detoxing off opiates" story because I promised my son "Yes, we can go if the wrestlers ever came near," really not considering that day could actually happen. But, it did, at an inconvenient time and much Joy (not so much) was had by all.... Plus, my mom came too.

One of the worst, but funniest days of my life. Thank God the husband kept an eye on me because I kept wandering off to the smoking area as the stands were constructed like an Escher painting, the noise was.... Well, the stands also vibrated. I almost got abducted by a former trucker who'd been in some horrible accident. LOL. Not on purpose, I was just like, "Well, if I have to get hit on, I should take control and seek out someone who NEVER does, at least making someone happy." LOLOLOLOL.

I explained my reasoning to the husband, he was not happy at all.

He was like, "Great, wife, and do you realize he's actually FOLLOWING you now?"
Once I realized it was true, I just brought him with me.

And that was FAR from the true highlights of the day. When you are manic, everything happens faster, including blinking, which is also a sign of flirtation. I did not believe in that fact, but after WrestleMania I now believe ANTHING is not only possible, but may have already happened at LEAST once before.

I'll just say the tale ends with me and my mom screaming at each other like the whitest trash outside an Arby's because my kiddo had a "poop outside the home allergy" and we were about to go on vacation for two weeks to CA, and my mom told my kid, "Oh, you'll be at the woods, you can just poop under a tree or something." My husband had words with her, she cursed at him (loudly) so I went outside and followed her screaming at the top of my lungs that she was married to an abuser who also beat up my little brother (second husband) and I NEVER disrespected him, ever, so she should shut up about mine. People were literally dropping their gas tanks in amazement.

I guess WrestleMania affected us all, but if that's how Wrestling behaves, the Rock could show up with a million dollars, and I'd be like, "No thanks, you teach me to behave badly."

LOL.

Anna
 

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I buzz so much already I don't know if I'd notice. LOL.

Wasn't the Rock like a wrestler. That's a hard "No." LOL. Do not make me tell my "Going to WrestleMania while detoxing off opiates" story because I promised my son "Yes, we can go if the wrestlers ever came near," really not considering that day could actually happen. But, it did, at an inconvenient time and much Joy (not so much) was had by all.... Plus, my mom came too.

One of the worst, but funniest days of my life. Thank God the husband kept an eye on me because I kept wandering off to the smoking area as the stands were constructed like an Escher painting, the noise was.... Well, the stands also vibrated. I almost got abducted by a former trucker who'd been in some horrible accident. LOL. Not on purpose, I was just like, "Well, if I have to get hit on, I should take control and seek out someone who NEVER does, at least making someone happy." LOLOLOLOL.

I explained my reasoning to the husband, he was not happy at all.

He was like, "Great, wife, and do you realize he's actually FOLLOWING you now?"
Once I realized it was true, I just brought him with me.

And that was FAR from the true highlights of the day. When you are manic, everything happens faster, including blinking, which is also a sign of flirtation. I did not believe in that fact, but after WrestleMania I now believe ANTHING is not only possible, but may have already happened at LEAST once before.

I'll just say the tale ends with me and my mom screaming at each other like the whitest trash outside an Arby's because my kiddo had a "poop outside the home allergy" and we were about to go on vacation for two weeks to CA, and my mom told my kid, "Oh, you'll be at the woods, you can just poop under a tree or something." My husband had words with her, she cursed at him (loudly) so I went outside and followed her screaming at the top of my lungs that she was married to an abuser who also beat up my little brother (second husband) and I NEVER disrespected him, ever, so she should shut up about mine. People were literally dropping their gas tanks in amazement.

I guess WrestleMania affected us all, but if that's how Wrestling behaves, the Rock could show up with a million dollars, and I'd be like, "No thanks, you teach me to behave badly."

LOL.

Anna
Yes he was but is an actor now, Dwayne Johnson.
Was hobbs in the last few fast and furious movies. You know the government agent that was opposite of diesel through most of the action scenes.
 

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Question:

WTH are nic salts?

Been seeing a lot of posts about them lately

Nicotine salts is nicotine processed in a way to reduce the amount of throat hit, or in some cases accentuate it. ..

Nude Nicotine explains the process some here:

“Smooth” Nicotine Salt solution is one of our three Nicotine Salt formulations designed around harnessing the differing properties of nicotine inhalation character. “Smooth” utilizes a blend of multiple cations in exacting proportions to focus on masking the throat hit of nicotine for an unparalleled smooth inhale and exhale.

“Smooth” is exactly how it sounds, completely masking the harsh characteristics of the nicotine inhale/exhale experience. The dominant cationic components in the “Smooth” formulation focus on binding nicotines basic nitrogen centers to “smoothen” the bit of the inhale, along with masking harness of the exhale. This is a character that is extremely attractive to some! The vaper may enjoy the dosing aspects of nicotine, rather than the bite and burn accompanied by some free-base formulations. While this is attractive to some, the smooth stands to be a market game-changer.

Low-nicotine vapers rejoice! Cloud-chasers and volume-exhalers consuming low nicotine levels will truly enjoy the “Smooth” nicotine salts formulation for its mellowing character. No irritation from nicotine in low to medium strengths will allow for an unmatched smoothness, ideal for letting formulators flavor artistry shine through and focus on the nuances of the vaping experience.

“Smooth” Nicotine Salts are formulated at 100mg/mL concentration and diluted in PG or VG and ready for use immediately. The use of the cationic salts may accelerate the color change of the nicotine salt solution, but is by no means indicative of oxidation therein. The binding of the two molecules results in a sharing of electrons from the cationic salt with the anionic nicotine, resulting in color!!! To the contrary, the binding of cationic salts at nicotine’s electronegative nitrogens prolongs the oxidative damage it may suffer in comparison to a non-salt formulation.

Nicotine Salts - Smooth - Nude Nicotine
 

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I use nicotine salts exclusively in DIY mixes. I really like them. My understanding is that some form of acid (e.g. Juul uses benzoic acid I think? But you can convert your own freebase nic into nic salts with citric acid I believe?) or just buy them from a wholesaler. They are smoother and lack throat hit, which I don't really desire a throat hit when vaping, part of the reason I tried them. They are reportedly also more quickly bioavailable than regular freebase nicotine although I haven't noticed a huge difference, although I am at 18 nic which is actually not super high compared to some vendors.

You can buy the juice premade or simply DIY identically to regular nic in DIY mixes. I buy mine from Nicotine River, they arrive very pale yellow (which is normal) and the quality seemed high for all the batches I received. You can ask a vendor to send you a sample of wholesale nic juice usually just for the cost of shipping. If you DIY and are interested, could contact a couple vendors to see if there is one you prefer.

I find them useful, not everyone likes them but some people do. If you ARE looking for a throat hit, I'd probably suggest mixing them with your regular freebase nicotine if you are desiring to go slightly higher on nicotine levels but can't get there due to harshness. If you are merely curious, I'd certainly suggest ordering a sample to try out or a smaller bottle of premade juice.

Best of luck!

Anna
The salts I bought (naked brand) come in 35 or 50%. That might explain why I think I get such a great throat hit from them.
 

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I was also a 3 ppd smoker. For several years prior to quitting. I don't really "get" nicotine buzzes, although the times I've fallen off the wagon I have occasionally gotten one, but I think it has more to do with carbon monoxide?

Anyway, it kind of felt like my brain was floating just in front of my head. It wasn't actually unpleasant, but I did recognize it from my early smoking days and it was kind of a reminder that that nic buzz doesn't come along so fast for me.... :)

Anna
 

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I buzz so much already I don't know if I'd notice. LOL.

Wasn't the Rock like a wrestler. That's a hard "No." LOL. Do not make me tell my "Going to WrestleMania while detoxing off opiates" story because I promised my son "Yes, we can go if the wrestlers ever came near," really not considering that day could actually happen. But, it did, at an inconvenient time and much Joy (not so much) was had by all.... Plus, my mom came too.

One of the worst, but funniest days of my life. Thank God the husband kept an eye on me because I kept wandering off to the smoking area as the stands were constructed like an Escher painting, the noise was.... Well, the stands also vibrated. I almost got abducted by a former trucker who'd been in some horrible accident. LOL. Not on purpose, I was just like, "Well, if I have to get hit on, I should take control and seek out someone who NEVER does, at least making someone happy." LOLOLOLOL.

I explained my reasoning to the husband, he was not happy at all.

He was like, "Great, wife, and do you realize he's actually FOLLOWING you now?"
Once I realized it was true, I just brought him with me.

And that was FAR from the true highlights of the day. When you are manic, everything happens faster, including blinking, which is also a sign of flirtation. I did not believe in that fact, but after WrestleMania I now believe ANTHING is not only possible, but may have already happened at LEAST once before.

I'll just say the tale ends with me and my mom screaming at each other like the whitest trash outside an Arby's because my kiddo had a "poop outside the home allergy" and we were about to go on vacation for two weeks to CA, and my mom told my kid, "Oh, you'll be at the woods, you can just poop under a tree or something." My husband had words with her, she cursed at him (loudly) so I went outside and followed her screaming at the top of my lungs that she was married to an abuser who also beat up my little brother (second husband) and I NEVER disrespected him, ever, so she should shut up about mine. People were literally dropping their gas tanks in amazement.

I guess WrestleMania affected us all, but if that's how Wrestling behaves, the Rock could show up with a million dollars, and I'd be like, "No thanks, you teach me to behave badly."

LOL.

Anna
I enjoy your stories. Can I pre order the book?
 

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