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[ShowMeTwice]

As you know - you put me on to it - I have the KF 5 squared SE. It's a DL atty and I like it but I get the feeling svoemesto were catering to a market they don't quite get.

The 810 dt setup is weird and I run mine with a 510 adapter but it doesn't feel quite right. It's also a huge hunk of 25mm metal that doesn't fit some of my fav mods.

I've been enjoying tighter draws lately and did a fair bit of research about the KF 2019 Lite v 21 (Plus). Seems like most agree that the new Aerokon af control is a better design than the nylon grub screw used in the 2019. Better flavour and smoother air.

The SXK clone also comes stock with the 4ml dome cap.

svoemesto has always catered to the MTL crowd first and foremost. The OG K5 was their attempt to cater to all vapers. MTL'ers complained it wasn't MTL enough which led SvM to making the MTL AF Pins Kit. SvM has since tried again to grab some RDL/DL market share with the newer K5's. I have an OG K5. My younger brother traded his OG NarDA for my K5...but...since then he snagged the NarDA back.

The KFL21 and KFL19 actual build decks are identical in size to my SvM Kayfun Prime's. Vapdivrr compared and measured both decks. Building and wicking is the same on the Prime, KFL19 and '21.

You might want to look through the KFL19 and KFL21 thread. Authentic Svoemesto Kayfun Lite - 2019 & 2021 Version
There is much info on the KFL21 at the end of the thread. Start on the last page and work back. A couple folks who have the KFL21 and a couple who upgraded their KFL19 decks to the new KFL21 deck saw no improvement in flavor. One or two did notice improvements.

I was going to buy a SvM KFL21 Upgrade Kit for one of my KFL19's but decided against it for what may, or may not, be an improvement. The KFL19 is a very serious flavor RTA with it's small chamber/chimney design. KFL21 chamber and chimney are the same size.

You might also want to look through the Prime thread. It has several videos, photos and many tips for building and wicking. In fact there is more info on wicking in the Prime thread versus the KFL19/'21 thread. It all applies to the KFL21 and '19. Authentic Svoemesto Kayfun Prime
The AF in the Prime goes as high as 2mm. I have no problem pulling a restricted DL on mine but mainly use the Prime's and my KFL19's MTL.

 

[charlie1465]

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You and I know someone similar. I never knew, until I was told. Still, a very good person, who is missed. I didn't judge and I completely understood.

Compassion. Tolerance. Acceptance.

Yes indeed....very good friend...I'm not very politically correct sometimes... she'll understand if she reads our bit of fun

 

[ShowMeTwice]

Ok all you Dvarw users,couple of questions so i am ready to place my order the day i get paid (5 or 6 days to go,lets hope hehe)

Ok,was going to get a Hellvape Destiny RTA along with the Grus from the vape shop here in Spain but meh...reading about the Dvarw day in and day out i decided to give it a try.

Going to get the juggy clone from FT so i thought i might as well get me a Dvarw DL and give it a try,couple of questions thou:

I see there are two Dvarw DL one with SXK in the name and another without,also a slight price difference but that isn't a problem.

What is the difference between both?

$23.50 SXK Dvarw DL FL Styled RTA Rebuildable Tank Atomizer - 6ml (24*21mm (OD*ID)) / 316 stainless steel + glass / 24mm diameter at FastTech - Free Shipping

$15.88 Dvarw DL FL Styled RTA Rebuildable Tank Atomizer w/ 3.5ml Tank Kit - 5ml (24*21.5mm (OD*ID)) / stainless steel + glass / 24mm diameter at FastTech - Free Shipping

Less than 10 bucks in price so if the SXK is better i will get that one.

-Watched a couple of videos and not a fan of the refilling system,read somewhere that there is an extension kit thingy to make it a ''top fill',is that correct?

$6.56 Replacement Tank Kit for Dvarw DL V3 RTA Atomizer - 6ml at FastTech - Free Shipping

From what i gather this is like a replacement that allows me to fill the tank from the top,am i right?
If that is so then i definetely need to get me one of these.

-While i am ordering the Dwarv DL and the top fill kit thingy,is there another Dvarw accesory i should get while I'm placing the order?

Cheers and thanks in advance

If you want a top fill tank section for a Dvarw DL then you want the Dvarw DL V3 RTA, not the Dvarw DL FL's you linked. The cloners did not make a top fill tank section for the Dvarw DL FL. Steam Tuners does, but they are not cheap.

This Dvarw DL v3 will work with the top fill tank section.
$11.46 Dvarw DL V3 Styled RTA Rebuildable Tank Atomizer - 6ml / 316 stainless steel / 24mm diameter at FastTech - Free Shipping

This top fill tank section for the Dvarw DL v3.
$6.56 Replacement Tank Kit for Dvarw DL V3 RTA Atomizer - 6ml at FastTech - Free Shipping

I would grab a spare top fill tank section.

Other spare parts for the Dvarw DL v3's are long gone from FT.

If you went with the Dvarw MTL FL, you could get a top fill tank section, regular glass spare tank sections and a few other spare items. There are AF inserts for the Dvarw MTL FL that do a good restricted DL but not a wide open DL.

 

[charlie1465]

Ok all you Dvarw users,couple of questions so i am ready to place my order the day i get paid (5 or 6 days to go,lets hope hehe)

Ok,was going to get a Hellvape Destiny RTA along with the Grus from the vape shop here in Spain but meh...reading about the Dvarw day in and day out i decided to give it a try.

Going to get the juggy clone from FT so i thought i might as well get me a Dvarw DL and give it a try,couple of questions thou:

I see there are two Dvarw DL one with SXK in the name and another without,also a slight price difference but that isn't a problem.

What is the difference between both?

$23.50 SXK Dvarw DL FL Styled RTA Rebuildable Tank Atomizer - 6ml (24*21mm (OD*ID)) / 316 stainless steel + glass / 24mm diameter at FastTech - Free Shipping

$15.88 Dvarw DL FL Styled RTA Rebuildable Tank Atomizer w/ 3.5ml Tank Kit - 5ml (24*21.5mm (OD*ID)) / stainless steel + glass / 24mm diameter at FastTech - Free Shipping

Less than 10 bucks in price so if the SXK is better i will get that one.

-Watched a couple of videos and not a fan of the refilling system,read somewhere that there is an extension kit thingy to make it a ''top fill',is that correct?

$6.56 Replacement Tank Kit for Dvarw DL V3 RTA Atomizer - 6ml at FastTech - Free Shipping

From what i gather this is like a replacement that allows me to fill the tank from the top,am i right?
If that is so then i definetely need to get me one of these.

-While i am ordering the Dwarv DL and the top fill kit thingy,is there another Dvarw accesory i should get while I'm placing the order?

Cheers and thanks in advance

Yes the tank kit converts it into a top fill but I have no problems with the bottom fill and it allows you to keep a close eye on your wick if needed.....

Sxk, ulton and copper vape are known for there decent machining....if I were you I'd pay the extra bucks for those brands.

You're going to love it....best DL atty ever....so simple and just works. Note that the DL FL is more airy than the DL but has the advantage of coil retaining lugs but the DL doesn't so you can fit bigger guage coils in the FL but are limited with the DL. The coil fitting takes a bit of getting used to.....

EDIT.... Didn't notice your links mismatch....read @ShowMeTwice responses above as well

 

[ShowMeTwice]

Yes indeed....very good friend...I'm not very politically correct sometimes... she'll understand if she reads our bit of fun

She is a very wonderful person who I am happy to have as a friend. And she will totally understand. I really do wish she would pop in with a "Hello".

 

[Javichu]

If you want a top fill tank section for a Dvarw DL then you want the Dvarw DL V3 RTA, not the Dvarw DL FL's you linked. The cloners did not make a top fill tank section for the Dvarw DL FL. Steam Tuners does, but they are not cheap.

This Dvarw DL v3 will work with the top fill tank section.
$11.46 Dvarw DL V3 Styled RTA Rebuildable Tank Atomizer - 6ml / 316 stainless steel / 24mm diameter at FastTech - Free Shipping

This top fill tank section for the Dvarw DL v3.
$6.56 Replacement Tank Kit for Dvarw DL V3 RTA Atomizer - 6ml at FastTech - Free Shipping

I would grab a spare top fill tank section.

Other spare parts for the Dvarw DL v3's are long gone from FT.

If you went with the Dvarw MTL FL, you could get a top fill tank section, regular glass spare tank sections and a few other spare items. There are AF inserts for the Dvarw MTL FL that do a good restricted DL but not a wide open DL.

Yes the tank kit converts it into a top fill but I have no problems with the bottom fill and it allows you to keep a close eye on your wick if needed.....

Sxk, ulton and copper vape are known for there decent machining....if I were you I'd pay the extra bucks for those brands.

You're going to love it....best DL atty ever....so simple and just works. Note that the DL FL is more airy than the DL but has the advantage of coil retaining lugs but the DL doesn't so you can fit bigger guage coils in the FL but are limited with the DL. The coil fitting takes a bit of getting used to.....

EDIT.... Didn't notice your links mismatch....read @ShowMeTwice responses above as well

Thanks for the replies and the info.

So if i were to go with the Sxk i have to settle with the filling from below method,guess i could get use to it if those brands (Sxk, ulton and copper vape) have better machining.

So just to make sure before i add to cart,this would be the one,right?

$23.50 SXK Dvarw DL FL Styled RTA Rebuildable Tank Atomizer - 6ml (24*21mm (OD*ID)) / 316 stainless steel + glass / 24mm diameter at FastTech - Free Shipping

Coil size i vary between 2.5 and 3 so I'm guessing i won't have a problem fitting those in.

Ok so thanks a bunch for the info guys,got my cart ready to go the second i get paid hehe.
I added an extra replacement glass just in case,must be one of the lucky ones thou since i started vaping i never broke one but it's always good to be prepared...just in case

These will take some time to get to Spain but the Grus i will get from the Spanish website i use and that will take me 2 days max to get it delivered home.

Can't wait to get paid to get me some goodies,been a while since i got me some decent vape mail

 

[Letitia]

Inked Atty is closing shop. Taking orders until the 26th.
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[ShowMeTwice]

Thanks for the replies and the info.

So if i were to go with the Sxk i have to settle with the filling from below method,guess i could get use to it if those brands (Sxk, ulton and copper vape) have better machining.

So just to make sure before i add to cart,this would be the one,right?

$23.50 SXK Dvarw DL FL Styled RTA Rebuildable Tank Atomizer - 6ml (24*21mm (OD*ID)) / 316 stainless steel + glass / 24mm diameter at FastTech - Free Shipping

Coil size i vary between 2.5 and 3 so I'm guessing i won't have a problem fitting those in.


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Ok so thanks a bunch for the info guys,got my cart ready to go the second i get paid hehe.
I added an extra replacement glass just in case,must be one of the lucky ones thou since i started vaping i never broke one but it's always good to be prepared...just in case

These will take some time to get to Spain but the Grus i will get from the Spanish website i use and that will take me 2 days max to get it delivered home.

Can't wait to get paid to get me some goodies,been a while since i got me some decent vape mail

The Dvarw stuff in your cart is perfect. Glad you added spare glass for the DL FL.

The Dvarw DL FL can take nearly any type of wire you may want to install. They redesigned the posts for that. The OG Dvarw posts cannot accommodate much beyond the simpler wire types and certainly nothing over 26g. In my DL FL I am currently running a 3mm ID clapton coil.

 

[Skeebo]

Eh why bother when I have so many dedicated single coil rtas. Honestly the flavor was good but I just have others I don't have to worry about leaking and can probably build/ wick blindfolded.

I'm right there with you. I thought it was great at first, but the constant seeping, lack of flavor as a dual coil, and tight air flow caused me to move on. I just wish I realized it before I bought three of them.

 

[AngeNZ]

Morning shinies

Thanks for the replies and the info.

So if i were to go with the Sxk i have to settle with the filling from below method,guess i could get use to it if those brands (Sxk, ulton and copper vape) have better machining.

So just to make sure before i add to cart,this would be the one,right?

$23.50 SXK Dvarw DL FL Styled RTA Rebuildable Tank Atomizer - 6ml (24*21mm (OD*ID)) / 316 stainless steel + glass / 24mm diameter at FastTech - Free Shipping

Coil size i vary between 2.5 and 3 so I'm guessing i won't have a problem fitting those in.


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Ok so thanks a bunch for the info guys,got my cart ready to go the second i get paid hehe.
I added an extra replacement glass just in case,must be one of the lucky ones thou since i started vaping i never broke one but it's always good to be prepared...just in case

These will take some time to get to Spain but the Grus i will get from the Spanish website i use and that will take me 2 days max to get it delivered home.

Can't wait to get paid to get me some goodies,been a while since i got me some decent vape mail

To just try a Dvarw DL and since you want to top-fill it, option 2 would be:
$11.46 Dvarw DL V3 Styled RTA Rebuildable Tank Atomizer - 6ml / 316 stainless steel + PEI / 24mm diameter at FastTech - Free Shipping
plus
$6.56 Replacement Tank Kit for Dvarw DL V3 RTA Atomizer - 6ml at FastTech - Free Shipping
and a thinner coil to plonk in it
$2.75 Authentic Ambrose Vape Ni80 Fused Clapton Pre-coiled Coil (10-Pack) - (28+28)/36 AWG / (0.32mm+0.32mm)/0.12mm dia. / 0.45ohm at FastTech - Free Shipping

The main benefit of the older Dvarw DL is it comes with all of the airflow inserts. 3mm, 3.5mm, 4mm & 4.5mm (3mm is pre-installed) Plus they are single holes, so you don't need a long coil.

But as the others have said, if you want to use a tri-core coil or thicker wire - then the DL FL is your best option.

But wait there's more!

You could always add this in, regardless of what Dvarw you go for:
$8.68 Destiny Styled RTA Rebuildable Tank Atomizer - 2/4ml / stainless steel / 24mm diameter at FastTech - Free Shipping

 

[ShowMeTwice]

I've been enjoying tighter draws lately

One more thing, tighter draws/restricted AF + a small RTA chamber/chimney = a more compressed vape. Which IMO leads directly to the best flavor.

Most high end RTA/RDA designers know this formula very well.

 

[Javichu]

Morning shinies



To just try a Dvarw DL and since you want to top-fill it, option 2 would be:
$11.46 Dvarw DL V3 Styled RTA Rebuildable Tank Atomizer - 6ml / 316 stainless steel + PEI / 24mm diameter at FastTech - Free Shipping
plus
$6.56 Replacement Tank Kit for Dvarw DL V3 RTA Atomizer - 6ml at FastTech - Free Shipping
and a thinner coil to plonk in it
$2.75 Authentic Ambrose Vape Ni80 Fused Clapton Pre-coiled Coil (10-Pack) - (28+28)/36 AWG / (0.32mm+0.32mm)/0.12mm dia. / 0.45ohm at FastTech - Free Shipping

The main benefit of the older Dvarw DL is it comes with all of the airflow inserts. 3mm, 3.5mm, 4mm & 4.5mm (3mm is pre-installed) Plus they are single holes, so you don't need a long coil.

But as the others have said, if you want to use a tri-core coil or thicker wire - then the DL FL is your best option.

But wait there's more!

You could always add this in, regardless of what Dvarw you go for:
$8.68 Destiny Styled RTA Rebuildable Tank Atomizer - 2/4ml / stainless steel / 24mm diameter at FastTech - Free Shipping

Thanks for the info AnzeNz,think i will stick with the DL FL,i am a simple man so no need for inserts,just put in the coil,wick and be done

Already counting the pennies to pay for the order i got in the cart and you had to go there didn't you?
Thanks for reminding me about the Destiny clone but...

These days just vaping on one flavor alone and my Destiny RTA still works so this order is pretty much a severe case of shinyitis

But yeah i need me a little pick me up in the form of vape mail so end of the month i am throwing caution to the wind and getting me some vape gear

 

[stabwood is good]

Thanks for the replies and the info.

So if i were to go with the Sxk i have to settle with the filling from below method,guess i could get use to it if those brands (Sxk, ulton and copper vape) have better machining.

So just to make sure before i add to cart,this would be the one,right?

$23.50 SXK Dvarw DL FL Styled RTA Rebuildable Tank Atomizer - 6ml (24*21mm (OD*ID)) / 316 stainless steel + glass / 24mm diameter at FastTech - Free Shipping

Coil size i vary between 2.5 and 3 so I'm guessing i won't have a problem fitting those in.


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Ok so thanks a bunch for the info guys,got my cart ready to go the second i get paid hehe.
I added an extra replacement glass just in case,must be one of the lucky ones thou since i started vaping i never broke one but it's always good to be prepared...just in case

These will take some time to get to Spain but the Grus i will get from the Spanish website i use and that will take me 2 days max to get it delivered home.

Can't wait to get paid to get me some goodies,been a while since i got me some decent vape mail

I ordered that Jk mini. Mine came DOA. I tried trouble-shooting it. Already soaking it in warm soapy water and letting it airdry, I took it apart and put it back together. No matter what I did or what mod I put it on, I always got a 'Atomizer Short' message. After about a week of trouble-shooting, I found out what was wrong - it was arcing where you drop your coils in. There's a reviewer on that tank who had the same problem. He was able to fix it; mine remains a piece of junk. If you get it, I hope the best for yours.

For the DVARWS - I have the V3 that Ange linked to and an SXK DL FL I got from 3F.
I can't tell a difference as far as performance but the SXK one did have trades while the V3 had none. The FL was also easier to build on because the posts have lips to trap your wire. But again, performance was indistinguishable. You won't go wrong with either one.

 

[lupinehorror]

this old place is missed.
seems to be rolling on at the same old relentless speed however which is nice to see.
hope you are all doing as well as possible considering the current climate.

 

[NolaMel]

this old place is missed.
seems to be rolling on at the same old relentless speed however which is nice to see.
hope you are all doing as well as possible considering the current climate.

Hey, Stranger! So glad to see you pop in! Definitely, still no keeping up here unless you make it a full time job

 

[Daniel Forsyth]

Good Morning Shiny People

 

[Pigs]

SvoeMesto has always catered to the MTL crowd first and foremost. The OG K5 was their attempt to cater to all vapers. MTL'ers complained it wasn't MTL enough which led SvM to making the MTL AF Pins Kit. SvM has since tried again to grab some RDL/DL market share with the newer K5's. I have an OG K5. My younger brother traded his OG NarDA for my K5...but...since then he snagged the NarDA back.

The KFL21 and KFL19 actual build decks are identical in size to my SvM Kayfun Prime's. Vapdivrr compared and measured both decks. Building and wicking is the same on the Prime, KFL19 and '21.

You might want to look through the KFL19 and KFL21 thread. Authentic Svoemesto Kayfun Lite - 2019 & 2021 Version
There is much info on the KFL21 at the end of the thread. Start on the last page and work back. A couple folks who have the KFL21 and a couple who upgraded their KFL19 decks to the new KFL21 deck saw no improvement in flavor. One or two did notice improvements.

I was going to buy a SvM KFL21 Upgrade Kit for one of my KFL19's but decided against it for what may, or may not, be an improvement. The KFL19 is a very serious flavor RTA with it's small chamber/chimney design. KFL21 chamber and chimney are the same size.

You might also want to look through the Prime thread. It has several videos, photos and many tips for building and wicking. In fact there is more info on wicking in the Prime thread versus the KFL19/'21 thread. It all applies to the KFL21 and '19. Authentic Svoemesto Kayfun Prime
The AF in the Prime goes as high as 2mm. I have no problem pulling a restricted DL on mine but mainly use the Prime's and my KFL19's MTL.

Great info! Thanks SMT.

One more thing, tighter draws/restricted AF + a small RTA chamber/chimney = a more compressed vape. Which IMO leads directly to the best flavor.

The way I look at it it's the vapour to air ratio. So with compressed chamber/ MTL/tight draws/less air you get intense flavour and bigger more open, airy attys can also give great flavour as long as you keep the wattage high and the clouds dense.

 

[Pigs]

this old place is missed.
seems to be rolling on at the same old relentless speed however which is nice to see.
hope you are all doing as well as possible considering the current climate.

Hey there Col!

 

[ShowMeTwice]

this old place is missed.
seems to be rolling on at the same old relentless speed however which is nice to see.
hope you are all doing as well as possible considering the current climate.

Hi Col. Hope you are doing well and staying safe as well.

 

[charlie1465]

this old place is missed.
seems to be rolling on at the same old relentless speed however which is nice to see.
hope you are all doing as well as possible considering the current climate.

Hey.... good to see you here again.... how're you doing?