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You can make it not leak, the key is stuffing that sucker with as much wick as you can. Like, a serious amount.
I know... I was hoping that closing the juice slot some would help but might have a better plan. Going to try a larger ID coil (3,5 mm) and stuff it as much as possible.
I did see one video where the guy used a different wicking method... the "dam" where you make the wick tails bend down and block the juice slots. Doesn't make sense actually, but might try it once just to see.
I'm also going to do a "pressure test"... close airflow all the way and connect a small hose to the mouthpiece, blow air to create pressure (with tank inverted) and see where the bubbles come out (if any) I'm kind of a geek sometimes.
 

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There is no o-ring there.
If the chamber got "out of round" I could see that would be a source of leaking.
I see that as a plausible possibility given the amount of force it takes to remove some of these chambers. I know mine is tight as a ..... What do you think of the possibility of a hairline crack in the deck itself? A long shot but anything's possible I suppose. I think your idea is more realistic.
 

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That's the problem with "quality control"... if I had just ordered one, I would have either praised it (the black one) or cursed it as a POS (the silver one) I wonder how many other people go through this with other RTAs.
Other than that small issue, everything else about these were good quality (and super clean)
I just came back to this thread for the bubble glass info and started reading again. I was just going to say quality control issue myself. I bought 2 more after my first Blue one which had an AF ring that wouldn't budge for nothing. I would press my thumb over the open AF when refilling to prevent any leaking. It was that or force it with a flathead screwdriver. I bought a black and SS after that because in spite of the AF ring from hell I did like the vape. The black one is perfect in every way. AF ring smooth as butter. The deck chamber doesn't have to be wrestled with to remove. The SS one is not as smooth as the black but still way better than my first blue one. I can't believe I've suffered for so long with that darn first one:(. Anyway, cheers, and I hope everyone has their Silverplay problems worked out. Me, I guess I got lucky I never had any leaking problems.
 
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@muth , it's ironic you came back to this thread when you did. I put the Silverplays away for over a month (been playing with a good ol Lemo2 instead) I just re-wicked one of the Silverplays (the trouble maker) filled it and before I could even try it out it leaked all over the place! Going to try the other one (that seems fine) soon... even have some new wire to try out (24 ga Ni80) One thing I can say is they have really good flavor and I also like looser draw. I also have trouble with those damned AFC rings being hard to adjust. If I close it to fill, then can't twist it back open, the tank tries to come unscrewed! I tried to find some "510" nuts at the hardware store (was going to use two together to hold the bottom so I can close airflow, fill and then set airflow) They only have 5-08... close but not fine thread.
Hey good to hear from you... crazy times now but if you haven't heard, the PMTA thing was delayed until Sept :)
 
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Wait a minute! I just noticed you said "I guess I got lucky I never had any leaking problems."
What is your secret? What ID coil do you use and how much do you close the juice slot for the wick? There are two sides to that juice/wick slot... one forms a vertical "slot", the other way forms a "V"... do you know which you did?
 
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So... here I am, months later, and had success! I noticed the wick (were it comes out of the chamber juice slots) there is a very tight fit between the chamber and the tank (when you screw the tank on it "tugs" on the wick, pulling it side ways) It pulls the wick sideways so hard it makes it "distort" and leaves a space where juice just flows right into the chamber. I used a "twist tie" (plastic coated wire) to push the wick "tails" back in place (so it doesn't leave an open space in the juice slot) and it's fine. I was so convinced it was a seal issues... no, it was the wick, but not my method of installing the wick, just that it get's pulled sideways and creates a gap leading to flooding (and leaking) After building and assembling the tank, use a small wire and adjust the wick tails (so they are even, not pulled to one side) After months, I have finally solved this issue!
Sidenote: I saw one video (out of many) where the guy used the "dam" technique... wicks stay in the chamber and big fluffed out tails to block the juice slots... might try that too, even though I have resolved this for now.
Funny things is my other Silverplay doesn't leak (not sure why?)
 

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That's it... I give up! When I posted my success, I only filled the tank part way. Filled it up (but still a bit of airspace) Tipped it side to side and juice came pouring out the air hole. Back to square one... chamber to chimney seal or top cap to chimney seal (or both) Oh well, my other one seems fine. Not going to even try playing with this one again.
 
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That's it... I give up! When I posted my success, I only filled the tank part way. Filled it up (but still a bit of airspace) Tipped it side to side and juice came pouring out the air hole. Back to square one... chamber to chimney seal or top cap to chimney seal (or both) Oh well, my other one seems fine. Not going to even try playing with this one again.
Having the tolerance issues I had wth my first Silverplay I can't rule out the fact that you may be having similar issues. I had to order 2 more to enjoy the benefits of a working AF ring, a deck chamber that fits properly, etc. If I had known better at the time, I would have notified the company for an exchange.

I'm using a 2.5mm ID coil. I measure the juice slot using a 2.5mm mandrel by pushing it down between the 2 moving parts of the deck chamber to form a U-shape. In other words, the juice flow opening = the coil ID.

I haven't tried the dam method because my current method works. Following the above, I trim my tails right up against the chamber. I cut any straggling fibers and make it nice and neat. It doesn't scrape against the tank and push it to the side.
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If you're afraid of leaking I don't think narrowing the juice flow slot just a bit will choke off the juice flow.

My whining in the past about discovering a leak was due to my negligence of leaving the tank filled with juice unused for too long and the wick disintegrated. But then, all bottom AF tanks eventually leak when left unattended.
 

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Thanks @muth , something is defective because my other one seems fine. And yes, those dang aiflow rings are tight!
I picked up my old blue one the other day and the AF ring was unmovable. I couldn't even budge it with a bottle opener wrapped around it. I'll keep it for parts. Or maybe remove one of the o-rings, Idk.
 

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@vaper1960 @LoveVanilla I finally received my bubble glass and o-rings and installed everything. By George, it does work! LV, I was having doubts when I was putting it together because the glass and the o-rings looked oversized. It's a bit deceptive because it's not a fit like the original but, as you say, it works. The bottom o-ring isn't an inside fit like the original and the top cap looks a wee bit off (more space on left side) but everything is sealed because no leaks. Maybe you can see the seam at the top cap in my pic.
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@vaper1960 @LoveVanilla I finally received my bubble glass and o-rings and installed everything. By George, it does work! LV, I was having doubts when I was putting it together because the glass and the o-rings looked oversized. It's a bit deceptive because it's not a fit like the original but, as you say, it works. The bottom o-ring isn't an inside fit like the original and the top cap looks a wee bit off (more space on left side) but everything is sealed because no leaks. Maybe you can see the seam at the top cap in my pic.

Glad you found useful. As without, tighten the cage thoroughly (technique shown in video) so the cage doesn't unscrew when removing the top cap. And enjoy!
 
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