Woo, it's really lovely. Delicate pipe with a nice sweetness. Might be my current favorite juice, in fact
Slow Cooker Extraction of Tobacco and Tea
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Woo, it's really lovely. Delicate pipe with a nice sweetness. Might be my current favorite juice, in fact
Well, the coffee did not turn out as well as I had hoped. It smells like what it is, old sodden coffee grounds. I might try adding it to a tobacco to pep it up a bit, but I might not have the guts to try it on its own (nicotine being the expensive, imported commidity that it is round these parts.)
Also, I have to buy Mr Scarf-Ace a new slow-cooker, because the current one has developed a brownish tinge. Heh.
Also, I have to buy Mr Scarf-Ace a new slow-cooker, because the current one has developed a brownish tinge. Heh.
Scarf-ace, thanks for keeping us posted. I am about to do one of these extracts and was curious about the yield of concentration. It appears you start with about 60mls. After filtering, about how much is left?
Thanks
Thanks
I would hazard a guess that you wind up with about 45-50 mls of concentrate, perhaps less. I will measure next time.
I was kind of wondering about that. One of the slow cookers we have is a pressure cooker also, with a metal basin best I can tell. Not sure if adding pressure would help or hinder. Its not mine though
wouldn't want to mess it up and replace itDo you think a double boiler could be used in a similar fashion? It would prevent scorching or exceeding the temperature of boiling water.
When I forget my half drunk cup of coffee or tea in the workshop for a while it goes moldy. Does this not happen to coffee or tea extracts?
It hasn't so far. I think you need water and exposure for that to happen. My extracts are in sealed bottles after they cook. And there is minimal water, just natural condensation from the cooking process.
Good point though.
Good point though.
Update on the ginger vanilla: Excellent! About an ounce of chopped fresh ginger root and half a scraped vanilla bean, covered in PG and VG, and cooked by the above method. Strained four times to get rid of the vanilla detritus.
I tried blending it at 33% but it was too weak for my taste. I added a drop each of Imix Mandarin and Raspberry to boost it and am letting it sit for a while.
I blended it again at 50%--bingo! The pungency of the ginger has been softened a bit by the cooking but not too much, and the vanilla further smooths it all out. The thing that I was most afraid of when beginning this particular project was coming up with something more reminiscent of a stir-fry than anything else. It isn't that, but neither is it a baked gingerbread-type flavor. It vapes like a ginger hard candy if you have ever had one of those. The VG and vanilla provides all the sweetness that is necessary, and the ginger still tickles the tip of your tongue on the exhale. Very very nice, and would lend itself to other flavorings as well I think.
Currently on the boil: chopped organic dried bananas with vanilla, and some Lapsang Souchong tea, which as you may know, is very very smoky. Coming soon: my next tobacco order...which will contain some non-aromatic English blends.
I tried blending it at 33% but it was too weak for my taste. I added a drop each of Imix Mandarin and Raspberry to boost it and am letting it sit for a while.
I blended it again at 50%--bingo! The pungency of the ginger has been softened a bit by the cooking but not too much, and the vanilla further smooths it all out. The thing that I was most afraid of when beginning this particular project was coming up with something more reminiscent of a stir-fry than anything else. It isn't that, but neither is it a baked gingerbread-type flavor. It vapes like a ginger hard candy if you have ever had one of those. The VG and vanilla provides all the sweetness that is necessary, and the ginger still tickles the tip of your tongue on the exhale. Very very nice, and would lend itself to other flavorings as well I think.
Currently on the boil: chopped organic dried bananas with vanilla, and some Lapsang Souchong tea, which as you may know, is very very smoky. Coming soon: my next tobacco order...which will contain some non-aromatic English blends.
When the Mrs comes home to find the slow cookers being used for this instead of dinner I'm going to blame it on you. But thank you for the new curiosity.
But thank you for the new curiosity.
Lapsang Souchong tea: not sure but I am pretty sure it is a failure. It smells NAAAAAASTY. Will report back if I decide to waste some of my precious nicquid diluting it. Don't bet on it.
Bananas and vanilla: smells scrumptious. Almost too much so. It is possible that the sugars from the bananas may caramelize on the attys and taste burnt. As soon as it's diluted I will try some.
The nougat pipe blend (burley/Cavendish with flavorings) has been diluted and aging for a few weeks. Preliminary taste tests in a Vision Nano clearomizer are very, very positive
Bananas and vanilla: smells scrumptious. Almost too much so. It is possible that the sugars from the bananas may caramelize on the attys and taste burnt. As soon as it's diluted I will try some.
The nougat pipe blend (burley/Cavendish with flavorings) has been diluted and aging for a few weeks. Preliminary taste tests in a Vision Nano clearomizer are very, very positive
3 refills of the Nano clearomizer and the pipe blend is still vaping splendidly. Seems like four strains through the coffee filer is the magic number to avoid any atomizer-wrecking residue.
The banana-nilla is not straining through the coffee filter for some reason. It is visibly more viscous in texture than the other liquids.
I'll give gravity one more night to do its thing, and then if it doesn't work I will dilute it with PG before straining, rather than after, and see if that helps.
If not I might have to pick up some triple-ply cheesecloth or an ultrafine chinois strainer to get the vanilla specks out.
And if all else fails, I've got some tasty if unorthodox pancake syrup
Cooking now: dried blueberries.
The banana-nilla is not straining through the coffee filter for some reason. It is visibly more viscous in texture than the other liquids.
I'll give gravity one more night to do its thing, and then if it doesn't work I will dilute it with PG before straining, rather than after, and see if that helps.
If not I might have to pick up some triple-ply cheesecloth or an ultrafine chinois strainer to get the vanilla specks out.
And if all else fails, I've got some tasty if unorthodox pancake syrup
Cooking now: dried blueberries.
Scar how would you rate the flavors so far? Ive found most of my extractions have great flavor but seem very thin and not very big and bold with taste. Even bumped to 30% in flavoring it just seems light but the flavor is there just need to be more of it lol.
Towe, they are terriffic! My Alexander's Nougat Pipe at 33% is one of my favorites right now, and it has gone 4mls wihtout wrecking my clearomizer. Some flavors do need less dilution... like my cigarette tobacco was light from the get-go, and the ginger at 33% was just too delicate. If I had access to higher-strength nicquid I could dilute it even less but it's hard to get. If you have good-quality nic at strengths higher than 36mg give it a shot, with the usual hazard caveats.
Hi, Scarf-ace. This sounds like something even I could do, and I am the Anti-Chef. Will definitely have to buy my own slow cooker though -- after the incident with the DYI syringe-barrel carto tank and the expensive Cutco bread knife (because proper tools take all the sport out of it), I've learned not to co-opt the kitchenware for my vape projects. I see that you're using organic tobacco. Do you have to order it from a particular place, or is that something a tobacco shop, say, at the mall, would carry? And pardon me if I overlooked it above, but have you experimented with adding any of your other extracted flavors with your extracted tobacco? I was thinking that the vanilla/banana mixture might fortify the cigarette tobacco. Great thread, which I will continue to follow, even if I never make it to the getting-my-own-slow cooker phase.
*That should be "DIY."
*That should be "DIY."
Lavaca, I decided at the get-go not to use supermarket tobacco. I figured, we all how loused up it is with additives and such. I bought my 'bacco from a specialist online retailer. Here in Australia we have limited options but cigars.com.au has excellent products. I've now extracted four of them :Chocolate RYO, Nougat Pipe and two cigars: a Montecristo Maduro and a Ramon Allones Celestial. I have also extracted some Borkum Riff Vanilla Cavendish from my local tobacconist. I don't insist on organic tobacco, but I'd probably at the minimum buy from someone who knows what they're talking about LOL. If you have such a place at your mall, go for it.
If you know any pipe smokers or used to be one, ask them for their favorite vendor recommendations. There is a wonderful website called luxurytobaccoreviews.com that will give you plenty of ideas. Google helps too
Honestly, as good as my cigar extractions turned out, I might just stick to pipe from now on... they produce the results that I like best. Your tastes may vary from mine so I recommend experimenting.As to your other question, yes I have tried combining fruits with tobacco, but no I can't tell you how it is yet
It has just begun the straining process but it smells marvelous. I combined the last dregs of my chocolate and vanilla tobaccos with finely chopped organic dried bananas--the same ones I used for the banana-nilla (more on that below). Note that I am NOT referring to banana "chips" which are usually fried in oil and would almost certainly not work for our purposes. After the three-day cook it is straining, and it is taking its sweet time too because of all the particulates. Will it live up to my current favorite bananabaccos, Plume Room Candied Cavendish and HHV Vapin Chimp? We shall see!
I'm all about the Honey Fig right now - can't get enough of the stuff. Burly & Candy is steeping, and I dripped the last of my Candied Cavendish just tonight. I also love the Smooth and Mild. It tastes the way I remember good tobacco tasting. I smoked Nat Sherman MCDs back in the day, and it reminds me of them. If I could produce something half as good as my Plume Room favorites, I would be more than satisfied. This is quickly moving from the theoretical to the probable. Look forward to hearing how your fruit/bacco combos turn out.
So: Banananilla.
Finally after nearly 4 days(!) this finished straining. I siphoned off 5mls and cut it with 5mls of 36mg PG nicquid. Shook it up and filled a DCC, and gave it a few puffs on my VAMO at 7 watts.
And we have success
First and foremost this is a cooked banana flavor. Banana pudding, banana biscuits, banana bread, or even maduros, those divine caramelized plantains you get as a side dish in Latin restaurants. I am not certain this method could produce a fresh fruit flavor, given the heat involved. This is certainly an almost toasted flavor with a nice sweetness and creamy vanilla hit. It has a silky mouthfeel that lingers on the tongue. Even at 50% dilution it is still fairly delicate. But to put it into few words, yes, we have bananas
My biggest concern with this juice is the sugar content. My clear DCCs are good with sticky liquids like NETS but the real test will be when I try this with clearomizers or attys which are more vulnerable to residue.
Is this a world-beating banana juice? Maybe not, certainly when the expense and not-inconsiderable mess is taken into account. But it is very delicious and I think you all will enjoy it if you try it.
Finally after nearly 4 days(!) this finished straining. I siphoned off 5mls and cut it with 5mls of 36mg PG nicquid. Shook it up and filled a DCC, and gave it a few puffs on my VAMO at 7 watts.
And we have success
First and foremost this is a cooked banana flavor. Banana pudding, banana biscuits, banana bread, or even maduros, those divine caramelized plantains you get as a side dish in Latin restaurants. I am not certain this method could produce a fresh fruit flavor, given the heat involved. This is certainly an almost toasted flavor with a nice sweetness and creamy vanilla hit. It has a silky mouthfeel that lingers on the tongue. Even at 50% dilution it is still fairly delicate. But to put it into few words, yes, we have bananas
My biggest concern with this juice is the sugar content. My clear DCCs are good with sticky liquids like NETS but the real test will be when I try this with clearomizers or attys which are more vulnerable to residue.
Is this a world-beating banana juice? Maybe not, certainly when the expense and not-inconsiderable mess is taken into account. But it is very delicious and I think you all will enjoy it if you try it.
I've done an extraction on a blueberry acai green tea once. It came out quite well, I was pleasantly surprised. I used a 30ml glass bottle, filled it about halfway with loose tea and then filled the bottle up with PG. I microwaved it a few times for 10 seconds. You could see and smell that it was "brewing" into the PG quite well. I did a triple straining. It was clean tasting, sweet, not bitter.
I am not really into DIYing, so that's the only thing I've tried. But you mentioned that your tea was bitter and over-tanniny (is that a word? lol). Try the quicker microwave version and you can probably avoid that overbrewed flavor.
Good luck, keep us posted on those experiments.
I am not really into DIYing, so that's the only thing I've tried. But you mentioned that your tea was bitter and over-tanniny (is that a word? lol). Try the quicker microwave version and you can probably avoid that overbrewed flavor.
Good luck, keep us posted on those experiments.
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