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Anyone that knew me 26 years ago would agree wholeheartedly
The prognosis wasn't great in the halfway house I started in.
If I can stay sober anyone can.
A day at a time
I needed to be beaten into a state of reasonableness as the big book puts it
Congrats, I'm at about 4 years or so going on 5. I doubt I would have lived much longer if I didn't quit. Liver shut down on me, yellow eyes and bloated feet the whole nine yards. I picked the name quiter for that reason. I just quit drinking and then smoking. Although I still smoke a couple times a year at parties. I can't seem to enjoy them without at least one vice. I left this thread early on because of how it fell apart. I guess I was one of the lucky drunks. It didn't cost me my job or my marriage, my kids are all happy and healthy, never did drink and drive so no problems with the law, but it was killing me all the same. I decided I wanted to stick around and see my great grandkids born more than I wanted that next drink so I quit. The first couple weeks were pure hell. I didn't know that you could get that sick from NOT drinking. Trying to get some sleep and waking up with the bed just soaked in sweat was something else. I'm not saying I have it licked either, just that I still want to see the future more than I want a drink. One of the hardest days was when I say my doctor and he said my liver tests had finally all come back normal. I wanted to celebrate so bad and it would have been awful easy to justify just one little drink now that my liver was ok. I never thought of myself as a drunk because I rarely was, I just drank beer all day and didn't get a buzz on at all until after dark. I didn't hit the liquor so I couldn't be a drunk, right? C'est la vie.
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This was a something that Plagued me in the Past.
I would get some Time and then that Stinking Thinking would creep back in that One Drink would be OK. It was a Vicious Cycle.
Truly amazing - Are you here now? - Is it OK to post?
Has the expiration date on responding expired?
I really don't think anyone keeps track of when someone is here or not before posting - Everyone posts when they have time to check in and post - And responds to what's on the page regardless of when it was posted or of the current online status of the poster - I seldom read the date and time stamps on posts I respond to - Your suggestions that people are "talking behind your back" are preposterous - The posts remain present for all to see at any time - It's not even possible to "talk behind your back" here - YOU WILL SEE IT sooner or later -
- Seriously SM - You're wandering far off the reservation with this line of thinking - This whole idea is, once again, the EXACT type of thing you would accuse others of being "thin skinned" or PARANOID for even suggesting - But here you are claiming it outright - For real brother - What is up with your unbridled hypocrisy of late? Unless you are willing to resend and apologize for about 80% all posts you ever made - You are being totally hypocritical and overtly paranoid - Hell - You even still get digs in on posters who have been MOVED ON for 2 years and will never be back to read them -
People are smearing you while you are away? - SERIOUSLY? -
-Seems I saw a few posts from you suggesting I'm off my rocker when I was away last week -
Yea - Bones is off his rocker -
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I do not see where "Mowgli" mentioned ANYBODY by name.
It's guffaw-worthy that YOU (Infernal2) automatically connected "troll" with that other poster.
Heh.
Your slip is showing.
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The original intent of this post served its purpose by pointing people to a "wellness" thread. Maybe a mod can step in and mention why this thread is being allowed to live.
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Touche' Silverbear. My point was more that to continue it was to draw attention away from the intent of the OP. I'd love to move everyone past this hiccup since I think its a worthy discussion. Even if I inadvertently added the forum version of a Freudian slip.
Truly amazing - Are you here now? - Is it OK to post?
Has the expiration date on responding expired?
I really don't think anyone keeps track of when someone is here or not before posting - Everyone posts when they have time to check in and post - And responds to what's on the page regardless of when it was posted or of the current online status of the poster - I seldom read the date and time stamps on posts I respond to - Your suggestions that people are "talking behind your back" are preposterous - The posts remain present for all to see at any time - It's not even possible to "talk behind your back" here - YOU WILL SEE IT sooner or later -
Seriously SM - You're wandering far off the reservation with this line of thinking - This whole idea is, once again, the EXACT type of thing you would accuse others of being "thin skinned" or PARANOID for even suggesting - But here you are claiming it outright - For real brother - What is up with your unbridled hypocrisy of late? Unless you are willing to resend and apologize for about 80% all posts you ever made - You are being totally hypocritical and overtly paranoid - Hell - You even still get digs in on posters who have been MOVED ON for 2 years and will never be back to read them -
People are smearing you while you are away? - SERIOUSLY? -
Seems I saw a few posts from you suggesting I'm off my rocker when I was away last week -
Yea - Bones is off his rocker -
Are you STILL crying in your beer, Bones? Holy cow! Buck up already. Your post might carry some more weight if you didn't routinely do the exact same things. And feel free not to claim you haven't bagged on banned members long after they've gone because I've seen you and just about every one of the other regulars do the same thing. Your high horse has a broken leg.
By the way: this is the post that started the whole thing. Now, feel free to read that and explain exactly how I was trolling, being disrespectful, spoiling for a fight or whatever you imagine happened. All the uproar that came about here was driven by others.
Personally...
If you had made that One Post and then had let it go, I don't think you would have Received what you did in This Thread.
I swear they should charge to see this sub-forum.
Even though it turns into a day care at times, man are some damned good points thrown around.
Even though it turns into a day care at times, man are some damned good points thrown around.
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- You just don't see it do you? - You are doing it again right here - Dodging the point by questioning my mental state - You've done this repeatedly man - I'm not "crying in my beer" - Have no need to buck up either - I'm doing GREAT Uhhhhhhh - That's what I'm saying to you - - -
- When did I say I didn't? Sure I have - That's NOT what I'm calling you out on - We all rib each other either when present or NOT - I don't scold others for doing it though - I take and I give - That's just the way things are here - I'm not calling you out for dishing it out - I'm calling you out for your hypocritical rebukes of OTHERS for doing it TO YOU - I can dish it out and I can TAKE IT too - You seem only to be able to dish it out - The moment you are asked to take it - You throw the victim card faster than LisaLisa -
- That's the whole point you seem to be missing - I'm not claiming to be on a high horse - You are -
I'm not playing the VICTIM either - That's YOU - You seem very confused as to what I'm calling you out for -
You can accuse us all of being .... hurt and crying in our beers all you want - It's simply NOT so - That seems to be YOU - You are the one claiming to be unfairly smeared in your absence - And how you can do that while simultaneously stating that everyone ELSE is ".... hurt"? - That's just - - - WOW - - - -
- I'm not calming to be the victim of your behavior - I'm just saying your comments regarding my mental state are total fabrications - Water off a duck's back here - It was not that post that people are calling trolling - It's everything that came AFTER it -
The relentless efforts to stand behind a tangential semantic point - Resulting in a total derail of the thread -
And again - Your behavior in employing this MO of late is NOT restricted to this thread -
So stop acting like it is - That one quote is not the beginning and end of complaints about you lately -
Nor does it exist in a vacuum even within this thread - Pointing to it is just you trying to reset -
NO - That one post might not have been a troll -
But the many subsequent ones defending it as relevant/necessary damn sure are -
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Right. I was going to ignore the replies. Just like everyone here does?
Way to try and keep the heat on me. Lame.
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I call 'em like I see 'em. You seem exceptionally worked up about this. Look at all the text below. Lots of effort... for what? To smear my character? Why? I'm really not acting any differently than I ever have here. What seems to have changed is your attitude towards it. Started with your defense of Dave and continues now. Not much I can do about it but laugh, really.
Uhhhhhhh - That's what I'm saying to you - - -
When did I say I didn't? Sure I have - That's NOT what I'm calling you out on - We all rib each other either when present or NOT - I don't scold others for doing it though - I take and I give - That's just the way things are here - I'm not calling you out for dishing it out - I'm calling you out for your hypocritical rebukes of OTHERS for doing it TO YOU - I can dish it out and I can TAKE IT too - You seem only to be able to dish it out - The moment you are asked to take it - You throw the victim card faster than LisaLisa -
That's the whole point you seem to be missing - I'm not claiming to be on a high horse - You are -
I'm not playing the VICTIM either - That's YOU - You seem very confused as to what I'm calling you out for -
You can accuse us all of being .... hurt and crying in our beers all you want - It's simply NOT so - That seems to be YOU - You are the one claiming to be unfairly smeared in your absence - And how you can do that while simultaneously stating that everyone ELSE is ".... hurt"? - That's just - - - WOW - - - -
It was not that post that people are calling trolling - It's everything that came AFTER it -
The relentless efforts to stand behind a tangential semantic point - Resulting in a total derail of the thread -
And again - Your behavior in employing this MO of late is NOT restricted to this thread -
So stop acting like it is - That one quote is not the beginning and end of complaints about you lately -
Nor does it exist in a vacuum even within this thread - Pointing to it is just you trying to reset -
NO - That one post might not have been a troll -
But the many subsequent ones defending it as relevant/necessary damn sure are -
PS: YOU reignited this, Bones. It was a closed issue until you flew in on wings of self righteousness to protect the poor defenseless board from big bad Surf Monkey. I wasn't planning on saying anything more about it... and I'm still not.
Ya Know Surf,
You can play this Out Any Way you choose. But Know this. No One is Smearing your Character.
That, You are Doing All By Yourself.
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