Starter kit recommendations?

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wiity36

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I have used several vendors for my juice but have found that Halo has the best consistancy for me. I smoked menthol in the past and searched for about a year for a juice that satisfied that menthol kick and found it with Mentol Ice. As far as not wanting to fill your carts at first...I have found that most prefilled tend to be dried out when you get them. That is from several vendors that I have tried. I also have and 808 which dosen't have a great battey life but I use it for certain situations.
 
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If you deal with a reputable US supplier you can be pretty sure it's going to be zero if they say it's zero. If it has nicotine there's a possibility that it can be off a bit. You can buy test kits on ebay to be 100% positive.

It's very easy to fill cartomizers. You pop off the end cap, drip about 25 drops of juice into the cartomizer. When you look inside the cartomizer there is a center channel that you avoid. Hold the cartomizer at an angle, drip about 5-10 drops, I give it a thermometer shake, drip 5 more drops, shake, etc. Until the juice sort of pools on top of the cartomizer. Wipe off the end of the cartomizer and screw it on the battery. Takes about 1-2 minutes.
 

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Back in the day when I used the smaller ecig types, I bought V4L's kr808D-1. I was really impressed with it. I like their WOW cartomizers...gives a warmer vape than the cool cartos. They have all the equipment that you need to get started. However, I've always read good things about Volt, and since they have a sealed auto battery, you might want to stick with it. I've never tried Blu so I can't comment.
 

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I'd recommend that if you've already quit smoking cigarettes without the aid of a PV, then don't vape. You don't need it.

Who needs to vape/smoke? To be honest, I enjoyed smoking, but it had some side effects that were far worse than the enjoyment I got. I always wished there was a "safer" way to smoke, but there wasn't, so I slapped on a bunch of patches and suffered through quitting.

I'm looking at vaping as something fun/interesting to do, just like cigarettes used to be for me. Nicotine's just a drug that could enhance it.

Is it your take that vaping should only be used for smokers who are trying to quit analogs? Should vapers then always have the goal of eventually quitting and not having any nicotine intake at all?
 

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If you are done with nicotine, it's no use starting a new addiction. Some startling discoveries have been made by science and by vapers that nicotine isn't the be all-end all cause of a cigarette addiction. That is was the nicotine mixed with all the other chemicals that mad smoking so addictive. Otherwise nicotine patches and a pencil in our hands would have solved all our problems and smokers would have no problem making the switch to PVs. I adjust my nicotine level to meet certain situations, the highest being for when I'm out at the bar. I can also go all day on zero nic and even am fine when I accidentally leave my PV at home. I want it, but I'm not anxious or stressed over it. Honestly, the only reason I haven't cut it out completely is because only nicotine produces a throat hit that feels satisfying on the inhale. But I feel like a devil's advocate for bringing it up and I don't want to paint a picture that nicotine is harmless. While it has been proven to have a positive effect on mood and memory, nicotine does affect the heart like caffeine does. And so far, my doctor sees no need to cut out my morning coffee or my nicotine. If that day comes, I think I'd have a tougher time switching to decaf than zero nic e-juice.
 

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Why not? There are people with mods that vape 0 or very low nicotine.

That's great if that's what you want, but the OP is clearly gravitating toward mini style analog lookalikes, Volt, Blu, Halo, etc

Why confuse him with so called "better options" when he's already figured out what style of ecig he wants to try and has chosen quite well?
 
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If you are done with nicotine, it's no use starting a new addiction. Some startling discoveries have been made by science and by vapers that nicotine isn't the be all-end all cause of a cigarette addiction. That is was the nicotine mixed with all the other chemicals that mad smoking so addictive. Otherwise nicotine patches and a pencil in our hands would have solved all our problems and smokers would have no problem making the switch to PVs. I adjust my nicotine level to meet certain situations, the highest being for when I'm out at the bar. I can also go all day on zero nic and even am fine when I accidentally leave my PV at home. I want it, but I'm not anxious or stressed over it. Honestly, the only reason I haven't cut it out completely is because only nicotine produces a throat hit that feels satisfying on the inhale. But I feel like a devil's advocate for bringing it up and I don't want to paint a picture that nicotine is harmless. While it has been proven to have a positive effect on mood and memory, nicotine does affect the heart like caffeine does. And so far, my doctor sees no need to cut out my morning coffee or my nicotine. If that day comes, I think I'd have a tougher time switching to decaf than zero nic e-juice.

I'm not sure I see all addictions as necessarily bad. I know there are some not-so-great side effects of nicotine, which I'm taking into consideration and continuing to look into, but I feel as a drug, a lot of what made nicotine seem like the bad guy for so long was really everything else in the typical cigarette. I'm no expert and I haven't done extensive research on it, but it does seem to be the case in my limited research (also, I drink more alcohol than one typically should, so I have bigger issues to worry about). A drug is a drug, getting re-addicted to nicotine doesn't scare me in the slightest (like getting addicted to analogs DOES scare me), and from what you've said (and I've also read others say) it looks like the addiction to vaping is far less gripping than to cigarettes (could you go an entire day not smoking without ripping someone's head off? I know I couldn't).

I don't think anyone here wants to see someone go back to smoking or start smoking if they don't already smoke.

Most of us here vape because we couldn't quit smoking. It may not be true for everyone, but it was for me.

I say this as a former smoker, so please take no offense from this, but you COULD quit smoking if you had to. If a doctor came by tomorrow and said no more, your body could quit on a dime with no lethal effects. Would it be hard? Oh yeah. So hard that a lot of people just never quit. Really, really hard.

I think we're all still relating vaping to smoking too much. This is a different thing. I can see it as being something that might potentially be an enjoyable, social sort of activity that isn't necessarily a bad thing to be addicted to. Like with anything, best if kept under control with limited use. I'll be interested in seeing where this goes in the next few years, it really should overtake the analog cigarette industry. Hopefully something crazy doesn't come out in the next few years that shows how bad it is for you, and we're all sitting there saying "back in the day, we didn't think there was anything wrong with it besides the nicotine!" :D

Anyway, looks like Volt's my best bet! Now, nicotine or no nicotine... =P Thanks a lot for all the help in this thread.
 

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Sorry, might have come across a little harsh there.

I have nothing against the eGo, or people's preference to vape on whatever juice in whatever mod they feel works for them and I'm currently investigating which large format model I want to try next, It's just that in my (almost) 1 year of lurking on this forum before joining, The only two things that stopped me from signing up were that every single time I found the answer to my question via a google search of ECF, and the other reason is that I almost always saw hardware recommendations that were way out of touch with the needs of the OP.

I've been in sales 16 years and this just irks me.
 

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I personally think that you should go with a KR808 variation.. possibly the ones from V4L. When I was first getting started I had the NJOY (the ones they sell at gas stations and malls) and it was just terrible. After less than a month of use I ended up with it misfiring in my pocket due to noise and other things. Never had a misfire with the V4L KR808 though.

On a side note, I would strongly suggest just trying out a 510 (manual) with a 510 cartomizer. It will give you the two piece ease that you are looking for and you would never have to worry about a misfire or a battery that requires a hard drag to activate the automatic switch. And honestly I was very put off by manual batteries when i first started, but it was really easy to get use to pressing it when you want a drag. ~ Good luck!
 

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Sorry, might have come across a little harsh there.

I have nothing against the eGo, or people's preference to vape on whatever juice in whatever mod they feel works for them and I'm currently investigating which large format model I want to try next, It's just that in my (almost) 1 year of lurking on this forum before joining, The only two things that stopped me from signing up were that every single time I found the answer to my question via a google search of ECF, and the other reason is that I almost always saw hardware recommendations that were way out of touch with the needs of the OP.

I've been in sales 16 years and this just irks me.

That's true. And it annoys me a bit too. But I think people are so excited about finding something that worked for them- got them off cigs, they're excited to recommend it to someone else.

That and most people only read the last couple of posts. :laugh:
 

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I'm glad you have decided which model to get.

The Volt is a good unit and both you and your fiance will be sure to enjoy it.

You're right that we relate vaping to smoking. The vast majority of us went straight from smoking to vaping and some of us had a more difficult transition than most and know how easy it is to get hooked again, but if you're ok with being hooked on nicotine again and see no problem with it, then why should we?

I'm sure it'll be an enjoyable and satisfying experience whatever you decide.
 

Warren D. Lockaby

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Both the volt and vapor4life kits have the 0mg option (unless I'm looking at the wrong starter kits!).

As for the trust thing, funny you'd say that because I had that same question in my first thread here. How do I know I can trust the seller to provide me with 0mg? At this point I'd really like a simple option to just purchase and try it out. I'm not sure what's involved in filling it up myself. I've read you can have a certain amount of each ingredient and different portions do different things, etc. This is all very interesting and something I'd like to learn if I stick with it but for now I really want a "plug and play" type option where I just purchase it and it's ready to go.

Well, it's less expensive (I would think) to make e-liquid with 0-nic than with, say .6% nic. Anyway, if you're wanting to try vaping with some nicotine you might want to order the kit with "0" and some cartos with ".X %" so you can try it both ways. As to the PG/VG ratio, the standard seems to be about 80/20, though lots of folks deviate greatly from this. PG carries the flavor better & provides more TH, VG provides more vapor. Once you get your feet wet with this you can learn to easily fill the cartos and if you wish you can mix your own liquids and save quite a bit, but it sounds like you've got the right idea for now. Happy Vaping, & Welcome!
 

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Point taken...I have never used an ego before but I know several people that use them and are very happy wih them. This is a forum where people ask questions and others answer them to the best of their ability. At least I would hope so! Never would insist that anyone take my suggestions nor would I ever feel the need to dismiss someones opinion either. I hope that TwoLeft finds the PV that fits best.
 
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Warren D. Lockaby

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My only concern about anyone becoming re-addicted to nicotine via vaping is the very real possibility (probability?) that the W.H.O. or the U.S. Government or some bureaucracy somewhere is liable to declare personal vaporizers illegal & throw us all back on our butts, so to speak. Just a thought from my cave. Meantime, Happy Vaping!
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