Starting a LIST of diacetyl-free ejuice suppliers. Please, keep to JUST listing the supplier names!
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Although Alice has that disclaimer, I've decided not to sample their Crunkberry or Creamsickle. And I'm still on the fence regarding Lemon Loves Cake. But it's not like I'm going to send the flavors back or anything. I think we all need to weigh our options and make some educated guesses.
Clouds of Vapor juices absolutely DO contain diacetyl. The vendor states as much on their website.
CPN ButterScotch
In April of 2012 the owner said he is was reformulating diacetyl-free versions of juices that did, but as of today, the website disclosure remains.
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/clouds-vapor/290233-diacetyl-butterscotch-caramel.html
CPN ButterScotch
In April of 2012 the owner said he is was reformulating diacetyl-free versions of juices that did, but as of today, the website disclosure remains.
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/clouds-vapor/290233-diacetyl-butterscotch-caramel.html
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Vaper Venue discloses which have diacetyl.
Their only one flavor that DOES is Monkey Cream.
HOWEVER, I was just told recently by a B&M employee who CJ (owner) delivers his juice to personally, that it no longer has it. He said to another employee "not anymore. That's why it tastes different. We didn't order any for a long time until he removed it"
I don't know if this is true or not, or if my batch has diacetyl. I am contacting Vaper Venue to confirm this even though their site still has the warning.
Their only one flavor that DOES is Monkey Cream.
HOWEVER, I was just told recently by a B&M employee who CJ (owner) delivers his juice to personally, that it no longer has it. He said to another employee "not anymore. That's why it tastes different. We didn't order any for a long time until he removed it"
I don't know if this is true or not, or if my batch has diacetyl. I am contacting Vaper Venue to confirm this even though their site still has the warning.
From Flavor West's website - "All Flavoring Diacetyl Free!"
From Mount Baker Vapor's website - "All of our e liquid is diacetyl free"
I messaged FW on FB and asked James in MBV's ecf suppliers thread about diacetyl.
I'll post results when they reply.
From Mount Baker Vapor's website - "All of our e liquid is diacetyl free"
I messaged FW on FB and asked James in MBV's ecf suppliers thread about diacetyl.
I'll post results when they reply.
Nicoticket says diacetyl free on their website I believe. They have a lot of good info about what devices they use to test their liquids and what goes into them.
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Indigo Vapor is Diacetyl AND Acetoin free, stated clearly on their website.
Big Willie's is also Diacetyl free.
Big Willie's is also Diacetyl free.
Nude Nicotine
http://nudenicotine.com/
""Unlike any nicotine liquid manufacturer on the market, we publish chemical data on our eLiquid for the public to see. We run each lot of nicotine through HPLC or LCMS (laboratory techniques to analyze an unknown for chemical content) to ensure only the desired chemical ingredients are present, no unwanted contaminants or degradation products. No diacetlys, no beta-carbolines, no nitrosamines, never. "
» Why Nude?
http://nudenicotine.com/
""Unlike any nicotine liquid manufacturer on the market, we publish chemical data on our eLiquid for the public to see. We run each lot of nicotine through HPLC or LCMS (laboratory techniques to analyze an unknown for chemical content) to ensure only the desired chemical ingredients are present, no unwanted contaminants or degradation products. No diacetlys, no beta-carbolines, no nitrosamines, never. "
» Why Nude?
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You really need to remove Dekang from this list, I remeber when Diacetyl was discovered to be hazardous they had their chemists go through their inventory and remove all flavors that had it. They also clearly state in their FAQ that their liquids do not contain Diacetyl:
Hello 
I'm new to the forum & not sure how to link-- links (or even if I can),but I asked this question on the 'Health Cabin' forum, in reply to a thread on certification for juices
here is the topic & my reply
"Yes I agree good call there.I'm sure it would increase sales too if this was available also consider the same for the 'flavor concentrates'
I just put a ticket in to ask if the concentrates contained Diacytyl etc" & I received the following reply:
(My question 1st)
"Can you confirm or not whether your concentrates for DIY juices contain 2,3-Pentanedione (Acetyl Propionyl) and Acetoin or Diacetyl? "
hello
we have got information from the manufacturer that no Ingredients listed above in the concentrates.
Any questions, please feel free to let us know. We are always here to offer help.
Best regards,
HealthCabin Support Team
Sorry if they are already on the list,haven't read all the thread
I'm new to the forum & not sure how to link-- links (or even if I can),but I asked this question on the 'Health Cabin' forum, in reply to a thread on certification for juices
here is the topic & my reply
"Yes I agree good call there.I'm sure it would increase sales too if this was available also consider the same for the 'flavor concentrates'
I just put a ticket in to ask if the concentrates contained Diacytyl etc" & I received the following reply:
(My question 1st)
"Can you confirm or not whether your concentrates for DIY juices contain 2,3-Pentanedione (Acetyl Propionyl) and Acetoin or Diacetyl? "
hello
we have got information from the manufacturer that no Ingredients listed above in the concentrates.
Any questions, please feel free to let us know. We are always here to offer help.
Best regards,
HealthCabin Support Team
Sorry if they are already on the list,haven't read all the thread
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Alien vapors OK to
what they did with boba's bounty and to alien vision
is despicable
and as far as I'm concerned have 0 credibility
Natures Flavors has a special list of diacetyl-free flavors, set apart from their regular flavorings.
When I got mine, the label said to keep it refrigerated.
So, they at least separate the diacetyl-free flavors so you can choose them over the others.
When I got mine, the label said to keep it refrigerated.
So, they at least separate the diacetyl-free flavors so you can choose them over the others.
Vapor Chef. Now, I listed one, but I have to say this.
The question needs to be: what vendors are free of diacetyl, acetoin (acetyl methyl carbinol) acetyl propionyl (2,3 pentanedione/PD) or any of the diacetyl substitutes(?). Many of the "substitutes" are themselves so close to diacetyl that now the concern for occupational hazards is pertaining to the inhalation of diacetyl and diacetyl substitutes.
IMO, it's dishonest, ignorant, or a willfully misleading sales tactic to proclaim that "We sell diacetyl free liquids" when in reality, if they sell buttery/custard type vapes, they sell liquids that contain diacetyl substitutes that are essentially diacetyl in disguise.
That's the big thing to know, like stated on PA's website: "[p]retty much by definition, a vanilla custard flavor, no matter who makes it, will have both acetoin and acetyl propionyl (or diacetyl) in it."
Now, I am not saying that inhaling diacetyl or its substitutes is bad in moderation (though I prefer not to vape those flavorings), but I am saying that if you think "diacetyl free" is not just marketing, look up these terms: acetoin (acetyl methyl carbinol), acetyl propionyl (2,3 pentanedione/PD) or diacetyl substitutes.
If a vendor says "diacetyl free," just ask them if they use any diacetyl substitutes to be clear. Just like Vapor Chef says on its website: Our flavor extracts come from reliable safe sources, are diacetyl, acetyl propionyl and acetoin free, and are specifically formulated for vaping.
Once again, I am not saying diacetyl is bad (though I want none), but know that if you MUST have custard or buttery vapes (buttery pancakes, waffles, popcorn, etc.,), you're likely messing with the diacetyl family of flavors! Just ask to be sure if you care one way or the other. And by no means are the diacetyl substitutes only used in vapes labeled "buttery" or "custard," you have to ask to be sure.
Resource: CDC - Flavorings-Related Lung Disease: Exposures to Flavoring Chemicals - NIOSH Workplace Safety and Health Topic
The question needs to be: what vendors are free of diacetyl, acetoin (acetyl methyl carbinol) acetyl propionyl (2,3 pentanedione/PD) or any of the diacetyl substitutes(?). Many of the "substitutes" are themselves so close to diacetyl that now the concern for occupational hazards is pertaining to the inhalation of diacetyl and diacetyl substitutes.
IMO, it's dishonest, ignorant, or a willfully misleading sales tactic to proclaim that "We sell diacetyl free liquids" when in reality, if they sell buttery/custard type vapes, they sell liquids that contain diacetyl substitutes that are essentially diacetyl in disguise.
That's the big thing to know, like stated on PA's website: "[p]retty much by definition, a vanilla custard flavor, no matter who makes it, will have both acetoin and acetyl propionyl (or diacetyl) in it."
Now, I am not saying that inhaling diacetyl or its substitutes is bad in moderation (though I prefer not to vape those flavorings), but I am saying that if you think "diacetyl free" is not just marketing, look up these terms: acetoin (acetyl methyl carbinol), acetyl propionyl (2,3 pentanedione/PD) or diacetyl substitutes.
If a vendor says "diacetyl free," just ask them if they use any diacetyl substitutes to be clear. Just like Vapor Chef says on its website: Our flavor extracts come from reliable safe sources, are diacetyl, acetyl propionyl and acetoin free, and are specifically formulated for vaping.
Once again, I am not saying diacetyl is bad (though I want none), but know that if you MUST have custard or buttery vapes (buttery pancakes, waffles, popcorn, etc.,), you're likely messing with the diacetyl family of flavors! Just ask to be sure if you care one way or the other. And by no means are the diacetyl substitutes only used in vapes labeled "buttery" or "custard," you have to ask to be sure.
Resource: CDC - Flavorings-Related Lung Disease: Exposures to Flavoring Chemicals - NIOSH Workplace Safety and Health Topic
Vapedudes are diacetyl free.
From their website:
All of our products are 100% DIACETYL FREE (this includes diacetyl substitutes!!!
From their website:
All of our products are 100% DIACETYL FREE (this includes diacetyl substitutes!!!
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