Still smoking support and chat thread

[fpkites]

As soon as I discovered RDAs and RBAs, sub-ohm or otherwise, I found I needed to drop my nic level drastically. 18mg in a dripper (my Octopus has a dual nano dragon at .6 ohm, and my Trident has a dual micro at 1.3 ohm) burns like fire with every puff. 6mg is what I generally use, I've had 3mg as well.

For my RSST @ 1.2 ohms, I can handle 12mg nic with short-ish drags.

The only way I can vape my higher nic juice (read: the stuff that's left over) is in my EVODs, iClear 16s and Protanks. I'm thinking just the density of the vapor just about kills me in my rebuildables.

My first month with Zamplebox was 18mg, and I quickly restarted with 6mg. Even the B&M noticed that I dropped my nic level quickly and agreed based on my devices.

You're right about the cultural change though. The B&M I started with was 100% eGo and introductory iTaste last December, and now I can go in there for a fair amount of intermediate clones and iGo stuff. He started out having only beginner mech mods, and now he's moving up in the world...still clones, but I'm fine with that. He even hired a (part time) builder to help boost the more advanced stuff.

I've been surprised how fast I was able to pick up the intricacies of vaping. It took me years to learn what I know about building and wheeling Jeeps, but a fraction of that to be able to talk shop with experienced vapers.

 

[Topdogie01]

fast pacrd. just like tech had advances and cganges. i think of it like Moore's Law, it doubles about every 2 years. we are starting to see now 26650 mods when 18650 was the big ones.

 

[fpkites]

I remember when Intel and AMD were having to hold back on R&D because they were disproving Moore's Law...The marketing department couldn't keep up selling the stuff they already came out with

 

[alisa1970]

I had to drop down to 6 mg when I got my VV 3.0. I vape at 9W minimum and was getting the jitters at 12mg. I don't think it has as much to do with what you use, as much as how much vapor volume you create. More vapor means more nicotine...the rest sort of follows.

 

[fpkites]

I just ordered the most volume in one order of any juice I've ever tasted/loved...60ml of AWDIV Orange Label is on its way.

MBV Cinnamon Roll may have just lost its perch as my ADV candidate

 

[alisa1970]

I just ordered the most volume in one order of any juice I've ever tasted/loved...60ml of AWDIV Orange Label is on its way.

MBV Cinnamon Roll may have just lost its perch as my ADV candidate

I'm not a real heavy vaper, but before I got my VV, 3 30ml bottles would last for a month. Now I could easily go through a 30ml bottle of something I like in a couple weeks.

 

[Topdogie01]

alissa, at the rate im going with he aqua, i can use ~8ml a day.. i fill it with 2ml and its empty shortly hereafer but i wait before i use it again. i may have to retire the aqua if it keeps eating my liquids.. lol.

 

[Topdogie01]

my largest liquid order was for 150ml (3 50ml bottles, largest they carried at the time. a week after my order they started to carry 100ml bottles) of a single flavor, plus 2 12mls. then i got 3 ounces of Mint Chocolate Chip flavor concentrate. gotta play with it more to make it pop. right now the mint seems a tad stronger than the chocolate. might just need some sweet cream.

 

[alisa1970]

alissa, at the rate im going with he aqua, i can use ~8ml a day.. i fill it with 2ml and its empty shortly hereafer but i wait before i use it again. i may have to retire the aqua if it keeps eating my liquids.. lol.

This is one reason I'm leery of trying a dual coil setup. Really can't afford to go through that much juice, and I know I would just like it too much.

 

[ShariR]

This is one reason I'm leery of trying a dual coil setup. Really can't afford to go through that much juice, and I know I would just like it too much.

That going through juice like pouring it down the drain is the reason I will not do dual coils. Or RBAs up to now. Just can not afford it. I read on here of people going through 10-12mls of juice a day. How do they do that?

I am having trouble figuring out how much juice I am going through with the Igo-L since I have to switch off from it during the day. It is just so much more of everything and I have to get some 6mg nic to see how that works with it. It is such a change from just dripping.

 

[Topdogie01]

I should be good with juice once I buy some more nic base. Almost out.

I think for me its going from silica 2.2ohm to cotton dual micro coil .06 ohm(final resistance, 1.2hm each) in the tank. Its definitely more vapor than the silica wick.

 

[etherealink]

Thanks. Yeah, I do overdrip sometimes but not that often anymore. My tobaccos are 70/30 and all others are 50/50. I can not handle higher vg juices because they do really bother my chest with heaviness. I am not vaping any 24mg anymore, I still have a few of the 18mg that I am now solely dripping or put in an evod. All the newer stuff is 12mg. I do nothing with cinnamons or spices or custards and I am only buying from Ahlusion and Plume Room. No more trading for any and all flavors and vendors.

I am finding that I am having wheezing at night more so than the first few months I vaped and coughing so I am pretty sure that I need to cut back on my vaping. I have not had a cigarette and I am not around smokers at all so my 46 years of smoking may be catching up to me.

Lung hit or mouth hit. I learned to do mouth hits when I started vaping in June. With the Igo-L I find that because of the draw (and I think the nature of the beast) I am doing lung inhales, even when I am consciously trying not to. The difference between the draw on the Igo-L (and the Octopus atty) are different. I do not know if it is because of the atty or me. I am working on that aspect. I do not want to do direct lung hits; I know it can not be good for me.

Understandable about the heavy chest feeling, I personally love a good lung full but I'm a strange duck so who knows lol.
I've never tried the octopus but am rather intrigued by it, and yes, my igo-w and the other igos I have tried all had a very tight draw (except the igo-w3 which has adjustable air flow... very hard to build though) so I had to drill them out to at least 1/16" to be even usable.

Mouth vs lung I think is a matter of preference, if you are chasing clouds or need that "full" feeling a lung hit is the way to go; by contrast I tend to get more flavor and slightly higher throat hit from a mouth (or mouth-to-lung) hit since the vapor has a longer time on your taste buds.

I have a mini RDA that I keep coiled rather high (1.4 ohms) just so it heats slow and warms the liquid when I test new flavors. It let's me really dive into the flavor rather than the vapor, which is more pg/vg based anyway.

As far as lung hits not being good for you (not counting medical issues), one of my favorite ways to really blast the garbage from my lungs (if I smoke a cigarette, let's say) is a couple big lung fulls of my heavy menthol. Another way to do this without the lung hit (I learned this while starting to vape) is to get a few good mouth hits built up and then inhale those into your lungs at the same time. Basically the same feeling, just a bit longer to get it.

If you have anymore problems with your igo-l just yell, I'll be happy to help.

 

[etherealink]

hmm, it seems i have dropped my nic level without realizing it. i was on my diy 30mg and switched to use a vendor flavor at 24mg. decided i wanted more vg in my diy so i cut that down to 24. the juice i got in my contest win that came with the aqua is only 12mg, but i guess at dual coils its counting as 24mg? im satisfied with it when i use it. but i keep wanting to use it and find myself on the edge of too much nic. so i put it back down or grab another pv

Top, dual coils, when you're used to singles can give the basic effect of vaping two tanks at the same time. Most drippers and cloud chasers (mainly dual coil junkies) have to drop the nic because you get so much more vapor (ie: nic) at a time.

 

[etherealink]

I had to drop down to 6 mg when I got my VV 3.0. I vape at 9W minimum and was getting the jitters at 12mg. I don't think it has as much to do with what you use, as much as how much vapor volume you create. More vapor means more nicotine...the rest sort of follows.

That's exactly it Alisa, cloud junkies unite!! Lol, sorry, been a long 2 days.

Got Clouds?

 

[etherealink]

my largest liquid order was for 150ml (3 50ml bottles, largest they carried at the time. a week after my order they started to carry 100ml bottles) of a single flavor, plus 2 12mls. then i got 3 ounces of Mint Chocolate Chip flavor concentrate. gotta play with it more to make it pop. right now the mint seems a tad stronger than the chocolate. might just need some sweet cream.

Bittersweet chocolate, my brother...

 

[darksparkle13]

Congrats aik on your win!
All of you talking about chocolate is kinda making me sad, I tried a chocolate loved the taste HATED the smell, it was horrible to me....still can't get over it!

 

[Topdogie01]

most chocolates to me taste like tootsie rolls. i never really cared for them (the vanilla ones were the exception!).

 

[twgbonehead]

I got 1 of my wins today and I was thrilled, I got another iTaste VV/VW its the pretty color Chameleon was expecting plain black. also got a Aerotank, so this was a great day!

Mark I got the wire and tomorrow, when my eyes aren't too tired I begin to coil away Coil, Coil, ......was that a life time supply?

Karen,

I think it's important to have more wire than you need - that way you aren't tempted to cut the wire too short, which leaves you with very short legs, which makes winding a lot harder. Typically I use more wire in the legs than in the coil itself. Shorter legs now that I'm getting the hang of it, but still.

At 6" per coil, 100 feet will only make 200 coils, and you know that a bunch of them will get messed up and have to go right into the trash. (Still the case with my coiling; some days I just seem to have lost the touch). If you have 3 feet of wire, that's stressful. If you have 100 feet you can laugh about it. (Well, after that first AAAAARGHHHHHH!!! anyways...)

Congrats on your wins! Wish I knew what the chameleon color was when I bought my wife's VV/V3; I think she would have liked that better than the black.

 

[Claudia P]

I'm running two dual coil RDAs using 30g at 1.2 ohms and one single 28g at 1.2 and I don't see a huge difference in the amount of juice used, I have a feeling I will see a difference in the new one that is coming prebuilt with dual moustache coils though. One of the guys is sending me a Patriot that he is building before sending, using twisted wire and he has assured me it will be in the safe range for my batteries.

I honestly have no idea how much juice I am using every day because I switch and mix so much, 2 drops of this with 5 drops of that and 3 drops of the other. lol

That going through juice like pouring it down the drain is the reason I will not do dual coils. Or RBAs up to now. Just can not afford it. I read on here of people going through 10-12mls of juice a day. How do they do that?

I am having trouble figuring out how much juice I am going through with the Igo-L since I have to switch off from it during the day. It is just so much more of everything and I have to get some 6mg nic to see how that works with it. It is such a change from just dripping.

 

[Claudia P]

I do mostly lung hits now and I went through a couple of weeks of the heavy chest feeling and tried to cut down my vaping a bit, but it went away. I haven't really changed anything and the heavy lung feeling has been gone for a couple of weeks at least, it may have been the onset of spring more than the vaping I think.

I normally am a mess in the spring with allergies, especially while the Bradford Pears are blooming, but I tried eating some local raw honey starting a few months ago and I'm not suffering with the spring allergies like I normally do. I still feel it enough to know that I do need my daily allergy pill but I feel way way better than I usually do in spring.

Understandable about the heavy chest feeling, I personally love a good lung full but I'm a strange duck so who knows lol.
I've never tried the octopus but am rather intrigued by it, and yes, my igo-w and the other igos I have tried all had a very tight draw (except the igo-w3 which has adjustable air flow... very hard to build though) so I had to drill them out to at least 1/16" to be even usable.

Mouth vs lung I think is a matter of preference, if you are chasing clouds or need that "full" feeling a lung hit is the way to go; by contrast I tend to get more flavor and slightly higher throat hit from a mouth (or mouth-to-lung) hit since the vapor has a longer time on your taste buds.

I have a mini RDA that I keep coiled rather high (1.4 ohms) just so it heats slow and warms the liquid when I test new flavors. It let's me really dive into the flavor rather than the vapor, which is more pg/vg based anyway.

As far as lung hits not being good for you (not counting medical issues), one of my favorite ways to really blast the garbage from my lungs (if I smoke a cigarette, let's say) is a couple big lung fulls of my heavy menthol. Another way to do this without the lung hit (I learned this while starting to vape) is to get a few good mouth hits built up and then inhale those into your lungs at the same time. Basically the same feeling, just a bit longer to get it.

If you have anymore problems with your igo-l just yell, I'll be happy to help.