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GtrSoloist

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Aik: Thanks for the info, I will check out the nic suppliers you mentioned. This is just my personal speculation, but I think BP is pushing to kill the ecig industry. BT is focusing on the asian markets because that is where the money is now. Remember the 3 year old kid smoking in indonesia all over youtube? Kids start smoking over there around 4 or 5... it's crazy.

Vegas is pretty cool, no really it's in the lower 70's. :)

Shari: When I used the lower resistance wire for coils I noticed that I went through both juice and batteries a lot quicker. Just saying.

FQ: Hang in there. :)

Lori: My deepest condolences.
 

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Aik: Thanks for the info, I will check out the nic suppliers you mentioned. This is just my personal speculation, but I think BP is pushing to kill the ecig industry. BT is focusing on the asian markets because that is where the money is now. Remember the 3 year old kid smoking in indonesia all over youtube? Kids start smoking over there around 4 or 5... it's crazy.

Vegas is pretty cool, no really it's in the lower 70's. :)

Shari: When I used the lower resistance wire for coils I noticed that I went through both juice and batteries a lot quicker. Just saying.

FQ: Hang in there. :)

Lori: My deepest condolences.
Ok blonde moment here but what is BP? I think I understand BT big tobacco right?
 

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Ahahaha. Just saw an ad on tv for the postal service. Saying we get it there on time. Uhm. That's a joke. You have a 40% rate of arriving on time since I started vaping.

Seems joyetech has released the evic supreme. And of course we are low on money. Laptop took a spill yesterday which damaged the screen. Today child knocked it over breaking the hdmi port. Need a new laptop.

Having a rough day. Flavors aren't hitting the spot. Grr
 

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Aik: Thanks for the info, I will check out the nic suppliers you mentioned. This is just my personal speculation, but I think BP is pushing to kill the ecig industry. BT is focusing on the asian markets because that is where the money is now. Remember the 3 year old kid smoking in indonesia all over youtube? Kids start smoking over there around 4 or 5... it's crazy.

Vegas is pretty cool, no really it's in the lower 70's. :)

Shari: When I used the lower resistance wire for coils I noticed that I went through both juice and batteries a lot quicker. Just saying.

FQ: Hang in there. :)

Lori: My deepest condolences.

I think context is important too. Hookah's have been a part of the culture through the middle east and asia dating back to the 1600's or more. No, I'm not excited about kids smoking or big buisness taking advantage of that with more harmful products, but I can see where it might not be as "shocking" there as it is here. I think that indosesian kid smoking was debunked anyway. I remember reading something that made it seem like a silly stunt and didn't pay anymore attention to it.

BTW some really irritating things came to my attention. NRT OTC products are dropping warning labels and are approved for long term use as well as dual use now. Go figure. http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...hinks-some-proposals-sane-3.html#post13070404
 
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I think context is important too. Hookah's have been a part of the culture through the middle east and asia dating back to the 1600's or more. No, I'm not excited about kids smoking or big buisness taking advantage of that with more harmful products, but I can see where it might not be as "shocking" there as it is here. I think that indosesian kid smoking was debunked anyway. I remember reading something that made it seem like a silly stunt and didn't pay anymore attention to it.

BTW some really irritating things came to my attention. NRT OTC products are dropping warning labels and are approved for long term use as well as dual use now. Go figure. http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...hinks-some-proposals-sane-3.html#post13070404


Just to throw this out there but where is the ATF on all this, if this is tobacco related wouldn't they step in as well?
Just wondering out loud......
 

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Sorry to be so late to respond to your post. Got sidetracked with the news. So, what did you do to the room? Which one? Tell, tell.

And how is your roommate? I remember you had to take him to other drs and he maybe needs surgery???

So sorry I haven't been here. I had the room redone and this computer was out of service, I couldn't remember my ECF info to log in, I have been on FB and available there. Back up and running, I have very bad news for you all if you don't already know. Lori's husband has passed away. I saw it this morning, she requested that nobody call her at this time. So, the best we can all do is think of her at this time or pray for her and hope that she is with people that will help her through. She is going to NY per the post she made.

At a time like this, whether you are dealing with your own troubles or just mucking through, it is good to know that we all band together and that we all care. I am sending her a PM and will wait till she is ready to come here again.
 

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I keep reading all over ECF that the IBTanked is the way to go if you are going to do cartotanks. Lots of choices in color and size and comes with a container called a thingy that you can prep the carto in. They sell a Provari ring that is made to work with their tanks and the Provari. Only hear good things.

I think it might be good to go with some carto tanks just in case, if cartos will be made it will work, just not as good as other delivery systems because of the leak factor.

I am looking for not to expensive shorter tanks to go with standard carto sizes, will buy three or four for just in case.
 

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Read it all. You should copy it and mail it to your representatives and for the 75 day comment period. This whole thing is getting ridiculous. It is all about the money. I will go cold turkey before I ever use a Big Pharma or Big Tobacco product again. Trouble is, is that the masses will buy them in droves. Not hard to scare and steer a herd of cattle.

I think context is important too. Hookah's have been a part of the culture through the middle east and asia dating back to the 1600's or more. No, I'm not excited about kids smoking or big buisness taking advantage of that with more harmful products, but I can see where it might not be as "shocking" there as it is here. I think that indosesian kid smoking was debunked anyway. I remember reading something that made it seem like a silly stunt and didn't pay anymore attention to it.

BTW some really irritating things came to my attention. NRT OTC products are dropping warning labels and are approved for long term use as well as dual use now. Go figure. http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...hinks-some-proposals-sane-3.html#post13070404
 

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Read it all. You should copy it and mail it to your representatives and for the 75 day comment period. This whole thing is getting ridiculous. It is all about the money. I will go cold turkey before I ever use a Big Pharma or Big Tobacco product again. Trouble is, is that the masses will buy them in droves. Not hard to scare and steer a herd of cattle.

Its hard to be mindless cattle when your only given half the information needed to make an intelligent choice. This is one of my objectives is to stop demonizing others and point the finger where it belongs; BT and BP and FDA. Not each other. We did not create this. Congress didn't create this since ecigs were not a part of the market in 2007. Deeming was from a judge in 2009 who "suggested" the FDA could do that instead. BT, BP, FDA have had years to figure this out. We've got 75 days.

Anyone can write letters to congress. I'm still waiting for CASAA's statement, but like I said, dual use is listed at the top for information on. There's actually a list of apx 50 questions they want comments on. There's a lot more on that to come. But this is good stuff for lawmakers to be made aware of now. Otherwise all the info they have comes from the FDA.

FYI http://onvaping.com/the-ultimate-list-of-studies-on-e-cigarettes-and-their-safety/
 
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