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Went to vape meet. None of the people I was hoping to see were there. If they were I missed them somehow. So I cased the joint and struck up a conversation with a couple of guys out on the patio who were coiling mechs. Both named Steve and one works at a vape shop west of Nashville. One Steve swapped out my r91 v2 center pin and put in v1 pin, the other Steve agreed I fried the cotton in my other Russian. I have new coils on both and different builds and juices in both. Very nice and knowledgeable guys. I insisted I at least buy them a drink for their help. Good people.

Then an old guy with a beat up guitar case comes over and asks if tonight is the guitar players meet. He missed it. He came back and serenaded us with 3 original songs. He was quite talented. So overall a good day.
 

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Went to vape meet. None of the people I was hoping to see were there. If they were I missed them somehow. So I cased the joint and struck up a conversation with a couple of guys out on the patio who were coiling mechs. Both named Steve and one works at a vape shop west of Nashville. One Steve swapped out my r91 v2 center pin and put in v1 pin, the other Steve agreed I fried the cotton in my other Russian. I have new coils on both and different builds and juices in both. Very nice and knowledgeable guys. I insisted I at least buy them a drink for their help. Good people.

Then an old guy with a beat up guitar case comes over and asks if tonight is the guitar players meet. He missed it. He came back and serenaded us with 3 original songs. He was quite talented. So overall a good day.
So glad you found someone to help you out!
 

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So I am going to my monthly vape meet in Nashville in an hour. I am taking all my coil building stuff, my R91 v2 and the new v1 center pin to get help on replacing the floating pin, my R91 that is tasting bad for trouble shooting on what may be wrong, lots of 28ga and 30ga wire and a few cotton balls, and tools, tools, tools. Hopefully the coil builders will be there and I can get my very expensive Russians performing up to their potential. And my best juice to fill them with.

Should be a good afternoon/evening.

Sounds like you had a good time (yea, a post later I know)

I saw this video from an ECF member on another thread who lives in TN. She's so cute in this I had to share...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vOX-ifp89jI
 

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Nude Nicotine has nic pre-bottled for long term storage called "armor" and it's very clean, no taste. Wizard labs is the next source. They are in and out of stock frequently, sign up for the email alerts and you'll get a note when it's back in stock. Sometimes within hours. RTS is variable. I think they are closed due to moving, but they have a 20% first order code which makes them cheap. MFS tends to be peppery, but some like that mixed with tobacco flavors.

There is a huge investment in keeping ecigs off the market. HUGE. $9 million went into several centers for 'tobacco research' and unfortunatley, one of their first junk studies was produced - hence the "vapor settles on couches and can cause harm" crappola going around. I think the magnitude is hard for most people to imagine just how serious they are. The FDA is even reviving it's statement that "PG is in anti-freeze" (FDA FB page last week, which is a hoot from the comments. Someone was responding from FDA when I looked).

For sport, we looked at Nicomist ingredients. This is plain stupid.

And guess who is showing up supporting sign on delivery postage? UPS and FedEX. Vaping just seems to be collecting bad actors who want the money right now. Our best defense is to keep educating friends and family, and convert as many smokers while we can. The idea is to build up the critical mass required. Joining CASAA helps. They really need about 10x's the numbers to say they represent us all. The game plan now is to ask for an extension on the commenting period.

I'm really frustrated with juice delivery. I'll sacrifice flavor for something that's just .... simple and easy without leaking. I had a protank spring a massive leak and that's too much juice to loose. I'm sure it just needed a new coil. Then I picked up some iclear 16's to replace my Baway cheapo clearo's that aren't made anymore - only to discover those are going out of stock too! :facepalm:
I could scream. It's really hard finding a 510/ego connection anymore for my gripper. Now my ego batteries aren't charging right. Hardware hassle is a PITA!!!! And that really makes it or breaks it for me. It's rare that everything works all at once.

How's Vegas treating you so far?


First I want to congratulate all those reaching milestones or for personal victories. (a la Shari or FQ) I lurk, but rarely get caught up enough to post, or reply to posts that aren't already a week (or more) old. I will try to address what little my feeble mind can remember...

Shari: I can relate to flavors just not doing it for you. What works for me sometimes is to give my regular flavors a break for a while, because I am usually just bored of them. This often results in my smoking more, since I am still a dual user. WTA might help, I noticed that it did lesson cravings for me, however the "unflavored" version I got from Wholecig still has a "tobacco" flavor that literally turns my stomach.

I recently got some Ahlusion juices, do they need to be opened to steep or do they steep on their own like most liquids do? I've yet to try any of them.

Switching up flavors and equipment might be part of the problem as well. The same flavor used in a protank / rba / rda results in subtle changes to both the flavors and NIC levels. As far as having a difficult time with the Igo-L, you might try using 30 or 32 wire instead of 28. Much less surface area = not as much vapor or nic.

The being said, I don't lung hit the drippers either. I use a pipe method, of 3 puffs (literally taking my lips off the drip tip, while still firing the PV) into my mouth, and then inhaling that into my lungs. If that makes any sense.

Aik: I am totally with you on the kanger aero tank airflow control valves / bases. I have 4 of them now, and getting ready to get a bunch more before the vapocalypse. I have a bunch of protanks so they should last a very long time if needed. The new bases completely fixed all my issues with protanks!

Speaking of the vapocalypse, (more on this later) Can anyone recommend a good source for the non-peppery tasting nic? I want to freeze some just in case. Also I am thinking of getting a backup zmax for the same reason. I was planning on getting an eroll... but now I'm not sure that I want to invest in more eq that I might not be able to get attys or other parts for... Any thoughts?

FDA / Vapocalypse stuff: About 5 months ago I noticed a 2 page color advert in a major mens magazine for a cigalike semi-disposable ecig. Over the last year there has been a huge marketing push for ecigs in general so the ad was not much different than other ads... until I looked at it closely. The first red flag was when it stated that this was a tobacco product, the second red flag was where it disclosed that the product is owned by the RJ Reynolds company.

It may not seem like such a big deal, but in one stroke they are classifying a competing product as something it is not in order to effect legislation that will ultimately give them a monopoly over said product; thereby forcing mom and pop businesses to close down. As always, it boils down to greed.

Another disturbing trend I've noticed over the last few months is the utter demonization of e-cigarettes on the "local" news channels. (I say local but most stories come down from the Network and are repackaged to air on local affiliates.) Suddenly the evil e-cigarette peddler is marketing them to children with the candy flavors, and poisonings have gone up 250%. The reality check is that I've never seen any marketing to kids, rather the industry has been self regulating from the beginning. As for poisonings going up: a) Users of e-cigs went from thousands to around a million, b) people need to keep dangerous things from their children, and c) see rule b.

Make no mistake, network news is NOT news. Network news has become a game of ratings and a way to influence the public's perception.

I'm not wearing a tinfoil hat, rather I'm pointing out that Rupert Murdoch owns Fox, and everything down to their "local" news is slanted to the right. NBC, and MSNBC is slanted to the left.. btw... NBC is Really, "NBC-Universal... a Comcast company." ABC is of course Owned by Disney, and CBS is owned by Sumner Redstone who is worth a paltry 6.2 billion and who also owns Viacom, MTV, BET and Paramount.

The point I'm trying to make is that there are a lot of people and businesses who are motivated by money. Public opinion sadly, really doesn't matter. The FDA and other similar organizations work for the corporations, to protect *them* from the general public. Not the reverse.

Before I go too far off on a tangent, the FDA does need to regulate e-cigarettes. It should be illegal for minors to purchase liquid. We should know what else is put in the liquid we use. Warning labels should tell the ...... not to drink it, that it is poison, and probably bad for them to one degree or another.

IMHO, there may be a supply hic-up. But I seriously doubt hardware will step-back 7 or 8 years. They may try to regulate flavors but it's impractical. Wick and Wire, PG, VG and batteries will also remain available. That leaves us with devices and nicotine. Thinking about it, Nicotine is probably safe too since anyone 18 or over can walk into a store and buy the patches/gum/losanges/enhalers/tobacco... and home made mods are still not difficult to make.

This is a battle over profit and tax revenue. Stock up if you need to, but the sky isn't falling... yet... (and possibly not ever.)

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Hey all! Chaos reigns as usual. I ended up smoking that whole pack I bought the other day, and now it's hopefully forever out of my system. What a horrible stench! When I was a smoker my sniffer didn't work! :)

We are going through some serious hard times at my house, both me and DD1 have new diagnoses and neither are good news. We'll keep hanging on until it changes, I hope.

Hope you're all having a great day!
 

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I'm glad you had a good time, Shari. Are you going to be able to duplicate the setups they did for you? Practice makes perfect.....unless you trash your equipment out of frustration. ;)

No trashing of this setup. I do really love the Russian. When I find its sweet spot there is nothing like it. Like you said, it is practice, practice, practice. The guy that did my cotton wick was doing it totally different than I learned. He does not smoosh the cotton at all, except for the end he is using to thread the coil. Looks like more cotton is used but it is very wispy. Looks like I was leaving my tails too long. So I will practice his method. The coil he built me was a 1.5/1.6ish and he used my Gizmo to build it so I know I can recreate the coil no problem. It is that stupid cotton I have to get right.

I just wish the Russian did not suck up the juice as quick as it does. I am going through juice 3 times as fast as I was when I was just dripping into my 510 atty. It is a shock and I can not sustain that kind of expensive with the vendor juices I buy. At my full vape rate I am going through 2 tanks in the Russian, so that is 8 or 9ml a day. That is quite shocking to me. Have not figured out what I am going to do about it. And this is with a single coil. I can not imagine what the sub ohm and dual coil people are going through each day.
 

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:ohmy: What's wrong FQ?

Hey all! Chaos reigns as usual. I ended up smoking that whole pack I bought the other day, and now it's hopefully forever out of my system. What a horrible stench! When I was a smoker my sniffer didn't work! :)

We are going through some serious hard times at my house, both me and DD1 have new diagnoses and neither are good news. We'll keep hanging on until it changes, I hope.

Hope you're all having a great day!
 

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Hey all! Chaos reigns as usual. I ended up smoking that whole pack I bought the other day, and now it's hopefully forever out of my system. What a horrible stench! When I was a smoker my sniffer didn't work! :)

We are going through some serious hard times at my house, both me and DD1 have new diagnoses and neither are good news. We'll keep hanging on until it changes, I hope.

Hope you're all having a great day!

On no I hope you all are ok!
 

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Hey all! Chaos reigns as usual. I ended up smoking that whole pack I bought the other day, and now it's hopefully forever out of my system. What a horrible stench! When I was a smoker my sniffer didn't work! :)

We are going through some serious hard times at my house, both me and DD1 have new diagnoses and neither are good news. We'll keep hanging on until it changes, I hope.

Hope you're all having a great day!

Let us know if we can help.

If your talking about what I think you are talking about, it's just a label. Your actually one step ahead because now you know.
 

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So sorry I haven't been here. I had the room redone and this computer was out of service, I couldn't remember my ECF info to log in, I have been on FB and available there. Back up and running, I have very bad news for you all if you don't already know. Lori's husband has passed away. I saw it this morning, she requested that nobody call her at this time. So, the best we can all do is think of her at this time or pray for her and hope that she is with people that will help her through. She is going to NY per the post she made.

At a time like this, whether you are dealing with your own troubles or just mucking through, it is good to know that we all band together and that we all care. I am sending her a PM and will wait till she is ready to come here again.
 

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I think it might be good to go with some carto tanks just in case, if cartos will be made it will work, just not as good as other delivery systems because of the leak factor.

I am looking for not to expensive shorter tanks to go with standard carto sizes, will buy three or four for just in case.
 

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So sorry I haven't been here. I had the room redone and this computer was out of service, I couldn't remember my ECF info to log in, I have been on FB and available there. Back up and running, I have very bad news for you all if you don't already know. Lori's husband has passed away. I saw it this morning, she requested that nobody call her at this time. So, the best we can all do is think of her at this time or pray for her and hope that she is with people that will help her through. She is going to NY per the post she made.


At a time like this, whether you are dealing with your own troubles or just mucking through, it is good to know that we all band together and that we all care. I am sending her a PM and will wait till she is ready to come here again.

To NY? For a bit or.....?
 

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I think it might be good to go with some carto tanks just in case, if cartos will be made it will work, just not as good as other delivery systems because of the leak factor.

I am looking for not to expensive shorter tanks to go with standard carto sizes, will buy three or four for just in case.

Have you looked at IBTank's halflings? Those are cool. Even on ego's.
 

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So sorry I haven't been here. I had the room redone and this computer was out of service, I couldn't remember my ECF info to log in, I have been on FB and available there. Back up and running, I have very bad news for you all if you don't already know. Lori's husband has passed away. I saw it this morning, she requested that nobody call her at this time. So, the best we can all do is think of her at this time or pray for her and hope that she is with people that will help her through. She is going to NY per the post she made.

At a time like this, whether you are dealing with your own troubles or just mucking through, it is good to know that we all band together and that we all care. I am sending her a PM and will wait till she is ready to come here again.

So sad. Thanks for letting us know.
 

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To NY? For a bit or.....?

I know they are from Long Island, NY, I believe. So family is up there. How sad. At least the long fight is over and he is at rest. Maybe now Lori can start to heal herself. They have been through hell.

Let me know if anyone hears of anything Lori needs. I will do whatever I can.
 

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Was there a public notice of arrangements or services? Should we somehow get together and send a card? I do not do Facebook so my hands are tied.

If not to NY, maybe we can get a big card and pass it to each other and all sign it with a note and by the time she gets home she will have a card from all of us. Just a thought.
 

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Was there a public notice of arrangements or services? Should we somehow get together and send a card? I do not do Facebook so my hands are tied.

If not to NY, maybe we can get a big card and pass it to each other and all sign it with a note and by the time she gets home she will have a card from all of us. Just a thought.

That would be very nice, anybody have her home address, I have her number for a reverse lookup if needed. I am sure there must have been a notice maybe in the SUn Sentinel in Florida
there is also a Palm Beach Post
 
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