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Claudia P

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Yep I got hit by that one Thursday, thankfully Chase was on the ball and refused it and contacted me within minutes. That is why I will never ever use a debit, visa check card, or link my checking account to anything online, I also refuse to do any online banking. Credit card only for online anything. If you HAVE to use a bank account for Paypal simply open a separate checking account and only keep a small amount in it for online transactions, then just transfer what you need when you need it. I'm also getting to the place where I am keeping a small amount in my main checking account and the rest in savings that way if I get hacked they can't get much as my bank at least will not let anyone into your savings account even if they have the numbers. I also only use my visa check card as a credit card as there is more protection that way.

I'm not saying this makes me immune because there is no such thing as security anywhere these days. :(

Happy 4th of July to all.

Check your credit card accounts. I got hit up for a $49.95 charge by some herbal tea place in Florida on 6/24. Can't give you the name since when I reported it to cc co they locked my acct and I can not log in anymore. Should have printed it all off before I reported it. I will get a new card issued but it screwed up my holiday shopping online. Oh well. At least I caught it.

I am at peace with my v2 r91. Since I changed out the center pin it is finally working much better. Still more finicky than the v1 but it vapes well.
 

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Yep I got hit by that one Thursday, thankfully Chase was on the ball and refused it and contacted me within minutes. That is why I will never ever use a debit, visa check card, or link my checking account to anything online, I also refuse to do any online banking. Credit card only for online anything. If you HAVE to use a bank account for Paypal simply open a separate checking account and only keep a small amount in it for online transactions, then just transfer what you need when you need it. I'm also getting to the place where I am keeping a small amount in my main checking account and the rest in savings that way if I get hacked they can't get much as my bank at least will not let anyone into your savings account even if they have the numbers. I also only use my visa check card as a credit card as there is more protection that way.

I'm not saying this makes me immune because there is no such thing as security anywhere these days. :(

Hey Claudia -

I agree with you on never linking your bank to anything online. Since 2005 I only buy things online with a prepaid credit card, but that allows me the freedom to know that if it does get hacked or piggy-backed with a hidden transaction they can't get any more than what I placed on the card anyway.
 

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Just for information the card I used was an Amazon Rewards card that is a Chase card and they notified me within minutes of the attempted transaction. I thanked them very much for their vigilance, I don't know whether Chase is that vigilant all the time or just with their special cards.

Hey Claudia -

I agree with you on never linking your bank to anything online. Since 2005 I only buy things online with a prepaid credit card, but that allows me the freedom to know that if it does get hacked or piggy-backed with a hidden transaction they can't get any more than what I placed on the card anyway.
 

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Just An FYI:

Okay - Couldn't let this go by without posting here . . .

I just recently found out that not only has "Smoking" anything been banned anywhere in the apartment complex where I live as of July 1st (which I knew was going to happen) . . . When I got a copy of the revised "House Rules" saw that the management here included that using an "eCig"/"vaping" in "My" apartment or on the property is now verboten too . . . :(

AND - All because the "Smoke Free Florida" people advised the management that they must include that clause . . . (Insert inappropriate hand gesture here :censored: )

Long story short - I AM NOT A HAPPY CAMPER . . . :mad: :evil:

WHAT Really Gets "Me" - Is that I am already having a hard enough time trying to become a fulltime vapor and quit smoking totally - and now this . . . Dam if Ya' Do - Dam If Ya' Don't . . . :mad:
 

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Just An FYI:

Okay - Couldn't let this go by without posting here . . .

I just recently found out that not only has "Smoking" anything been banned anywhere in the apartment complex where I live as of July 1st (which I knew was going to happen) . . . When I got a copy of the revised "House Rules" saw that the management here included that using an "eCig"/"Vaping" in "My" apartment or on the property is now verboten too . . . :(

AND - All because the "Smoke Free Florida" people advised the management that they must include that clause . . . (Insert inappropriate hand gesture here :censored: )

Long story short - I AM NOT A HAPPY CAMPER . . . :mad: :evil:

WHAT Really Gets "Me" - Is that I am already having a hard enough time trying to become a fulltime vapor and quit smoking totally - and now this . . . Dam if Ya' Do - Dam If Ya' Don't . . . :mad:

I think I'd call a lawyer Uncle, that's getting close to discrimination.
 

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Yep I got hit by that one Thursday, thankfully Chase was on the ball and refused it and contacted me within minutes. That is why I will never ever use a debit, visa check card, or link my checking account to anything online, I also refuse to do any online banking. Credit card only for online anything. If you HAVE to use a bank account for Paypal simply open a separate checking account and only keep a small amount in it for online transactions, then just transfer what you need when you need it. I'm also getting to the place where I am keeping a small amount in my main checking account and the rest in savings that way if I get hacked they can't get much as my bank at least will not let anyone into your savings account even if they have the numbers. I also only use my visa check card as a credit card as there is more protection that way.

I'm not saying this makes me immune because there is no such thing as security anywhere these days. :(

FYI my experience with "Bill Me Later" is they don't require any identification (per online complaints - I didn't test it); no cc#, no ss#, not even address verification. Whatever was ordered in my name was sent to a different address. I still don't know what it was, just $549 from Walmart. I don't have a Walmart account nor have I purchased from there. A lot of people are upset with "Bill Me Later's" loose verification requirements and I have no idea how to prevent that from happening again. BTW - I wasn't notified until 6 months later. By that time, whoever it was is probably long gone. "Bill Me Later" said they'd take care of it like it was fixed. But I can't get that in writting. They stopped responding. I'm having to file complaints through BBB and attny general's office.

The scary part is that I have no idea how to prevent that from happening again, not if they don't verify anything other than my credit limit.
 

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Just An FYI:

Okay - Couldn't let this go by without posting here . . .

I just recently found out that not only has "Smoking" anything been banned anywhere in the apartment complex where I live as of July 1st (which I knew was going to happen) . . . When I got a copy of the revised "House Rules" saw that the management here included that using an "eCig"/"Vaping" in "My" apartment or on the property is now verboten too . . . :(

AND - All because the "Smoke Free Florida" people advised the management that they must include that clause . . . (Insert inappropriate hand gesture here :censored: )

Long story short - I AM NOT A HAPPY CAMPER . . . :mad: :evil:

WHAT Really Gets "Me" - Is that I am already having a hard enough time trying to become a fulltime vapor and quit smoking totally - and now this . . . Dam if Ya' Do - Dam If Ya' Don't . . . :mad:

That is scary. One thing that's come to light is these groups are doing everything they can to list vaping as smoking which if successful, has the side effect of limiting legal challenges to deeming regulations. Pretty serious consequences to let slide.

I assume there wasn't a change to extend the "indoor Clean Air Act" by the city, council or state? That's usually how it becomes "official" and if they attempt it, the expansion gets some push back. This feels like an end run around getting that official determination (democracy) and is arbitrary.

You might point out vaping is not regulated by the FDA the same as tobacco. They are lying if they said so. The FDA doesn't have jurisdiction over ecigs like they do with tobacco and that's what is happening now because it is not the same, ecigs aren't in the same category as cigarettes! The FDA does NOT treat them the same. Tell them they can't enforce restrictions on vaping because they don't give off smoke or odors and it's stupid. (Repeated in as many ways as possible).

Can you get a doctor's note advising preference for vaping? (Kind of a long shot).

I don't think vaping is a protected class for driscrimination - however this does change your lease substaintially from when you signed and you should be able to break it without consequences. That's probably not the ideal solution. The next best would be stealth vaping. Who knows you vape in your home that cares? I think reheating last night's leftovers smell much more than even the strongest eliquid. Are you smoking strawberries and cocoa again? tsk, tsk, tsk. LOL!

I'd also contact CASAA since this is a sneaky way to get around passing public policy and ordinances (democracy) and influences public opinion. As far as I know, no "Smoke Free (state)" has any authority to pass or enforce public policy or ordinances. In fact if they have recieved federal funding, it could be against the law (save any documentation you can find. A group in No. Calif is working on this).

I'd also start a thread in the general section or legislative section to see how many others have experienced the same thing. People need to know this is happening. Post in Redditt, VM, Underground, everywhere. Then write letters. You might get lucky and find a councilperson who doesn't like their authority (power) upsurped that way.

I'd be ......! I hate renting anyway.
 
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Thaya!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Congratulations! I hope to grow up one day and be like you! I am still smoking and perhaps, I will stop one day before it is too late. I am still sore and of course the fun never ends for me, I also hurt myself in the forehead hitting myself as I got out of the car the other day.

Doctors are harder to see these days with this medicare plan, but appointments are made and I will get to see one eventually this month the first appointment is for the 17th.
Still doing contests but I hit a wall and just post a few each day. I can't seem to get it together lately, not sure why, just haven't had a groove,

Sorry to show my self so infrequently, I just am too tired and can't seem to find the energy to do this or my contests as often as I would like, I found a few people to help me with my group though it grew enormously so I am overwhelmed.

I hope you feel better soon. You are missed.
 

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Just An FYI:

I think some of "You" just might get a kick out of this one . . . ;)

OKAY - Take a GOOD LOOK at the sign in this picture. . .


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Now - Does anyone see something at all strange about it . . . ;)


Did Florida officially extend it's Clean Air Act or is that B.S.?
 

Claudia P

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That's good to know, I've never used bill me later and even though I hadn't intended to I certainly won't now.
I did notice when I went to paypal to delete my old card and add the new one that you now have to check a box to require password authentication before any purchase.

It was Chase that caught the attempted fraud and I thanked them profusely for their vigilance.

FYI my experience with "Bill Me Later" is they don't require any identification (per online complaints - I didn't test it); no cc#, no ss#, not even address verification. Whatever was ordered in my name was sent to a different address. I still don't know what it was, just $549 from Walmart. I don't have a Walmart account nor have I purchased from there. A lot of people are upset with "Bill Me Later's" loose verification requirements and I have no idea how to prevent that from happening again. BTW - I wasn't notified until 6 months later. By that time, whoever it was is probably long gone. "Bill Me Later" said they'd take care of it like it was fixed. But I can't get that in writting. They stopped responding. I'm having to file complaints through BBB and attny general's office.

The scary part is that I have no idea how to prevent that from happening again, not if they don't verify anything other than my credit limit.
 

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Karen, I hope you get to feeling better real soon. Glad to hear you got a doctor's appt coming up soon.

Uncle, landlords can put all kinds of stuff in their lease agreements. If you do not sign it, it could cause you problems and may break your lease. On the other hand, how they gonna know you are vaping if you do not tell them? Is it worth fighting it to you? Even if they knocked on your door for an inspection, you could take your time getting to the door and the vapor would leave no evidence by the time you got to the door (burn insense or spray some Glade air freshener) so I would not worry too much about it. Aggravating and infuriating but not worth losing your home over.

Welcome back Etherealink, good to see you.
 

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Just to keep the theme going for me and my remodel - our refrigerator stopped cooling stuff down yesterday. It still runs and the freezer still freezes, but refrigerator part does not cool down and keep cold food. Had to throw out tons of sandwich meat and heat in the microwave type foods since I have no stove. Repair guy is coming in morning. Not going to have new refrigerator delivered now to be dragged in 2 or 3 weeks across the brand new hardwood.

So the fun continues. So far the second coat of poly is on the kitchen floor and looks good from the doorway. Keeping my fingers crossed.
 
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