Still smoking support and chat thread

[kathi17]

You'll quit when you quit. Fretting about not quitting only feeds the lies the cigarettes are telling your brain. In the mean time seek within you why you want to smoke when the urge happens. No it's not the nicotine. No it's not the hand to mouth, etc. If you still desire to smoke there's another reason, each of us has our own, and those are what makes the difference for each person. For me it was defiance that it's harmful, the "I'll show you by rebelling against the truth" and I've that one was revealed it became a game of kicking the habits one at a time. After dinner habit, driving habit, coffee and a smoke habit, grab one when emotional habit, etc. For me it never was nicotine addiction that I couldn't( out wouldn't) kick. It's been telling an old friend (my doctor calls cigarettes my mistress but I call them my best buddy) thanks for the decades of being my 1 stability that I could count on being there when needed or wanted. It's time for me to grow up and go out solo, no more best buddy crutch to lean on. Like Linus has his blanket I've had my cigarettes since I was 13 (I turn 50 next week). The blanket had to go.
You'll find your reason(s) and conquer it too.
Welcome to the thread for the rest of us.

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I'm an "s pen aholic" Noteate

Very well put. For me, I am addicted to nicotine, and my PVs help there, but I really do believe that I still think of my cigarettes as old friends.

I don't get those awful cravings and the sick to my stomach and jittery feeling I used to get when I didn't vape, but I still really want that comfortable old friend feeling every now and again.

It's funny that I still feel that way, in spite of the fact that I think of myself as an ex-smoker/non-smoker.

 

[etherealink]

When my doctor showed me the tape of my eeg/keg/whatever a few years back it didn't phase me a bit. When he said I was right at emphysema a couple of years ago it scared me but not enough to quit. Slavery to cigarettes realization ...... me off to quit for months and is the ONLY thing that kept me trying to quit since 09. My goal is still to vape only temporarily though I've set no time table. My sister quit cigarettes back in 07 but still uses nicotine mints like m&ms. She's not smoking though, not a single one since 07. I've already, in about a month, cut back from 24mg for a few days to 18mg for a couple of weeks to now holding at 12mg with an occasional vape session of 18mg Cherrywood. I'm starting to order 6mg with my replacement bottles and mix them half/half with my 12mg, thus dropping to 9mg slowly. My goal is get to 0mg then see where that goes as far as inhaling anything but the air I breathe. No hurry though. At least I'm not smoking but a couple of cigarettes a week when an old habit sneaks up. Friday I grabbed one on my way out the door only to realize later I'd done it.

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That's about where I'm at. I'm not concerned with dropping the nicotine currently but just getting rid of the chemicals in analogs (see the link in my signature).

If I can just drop the cigarette or few a day I will be a very happy guy.

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Fogging out my Bulldog with a 1.2ohm Igo-W on a k101 or an I30 when I don't have time to drip.

Bring on the fog machines!!
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About analogs vs ecigs and why ecigs are less dangerous to your health:

http://www.janty.com/en/news/item/vapor-test-results-by-keca

 

[etherealink]

You do not need to tell me about not getting the message. I have had heart disease since I was 33, and I am a woman. That is very young in a woman. I have had 12 or 14 angiograms and I think 5 angioplasties, 1 with a couple of stents. And I still continued to smoke cigarettes. So I get it, big time.

I do believe that putting down that last cigarette is a decision a person has to make for themselves. When I made up my mind that vaping was going to work for me, I made it work. It ended up being quicker and more pleasurable than I anticipated. A big part of my success was my stubbornness and the good people here with their support and attaboys. There is much more to smoking than just the cigarette.

There is a lot of trial and error. We tend to beat ourselves up if we are not successful on the first attempt. Who is an expert at anything the very first time. Even smoking. It all takes time and practice. And the frame of mind to give it a good go at it. And a few people around you to support your efforts, like the people in this thread.

Oh yeah, that's the reason I got onto this thread in the first place. Most of the guys I work with smoke so that is a major hurdle to get over, especially with many of them becoming close friends (we spend 70+ hrs a week together) and some even drinking buddies lol.

I don't so much crave the attention but it is nice to have folks in the same situation that I can have my "moment" for the day on a record that *I* can see that says I made it one more day without lighting up.

The biggest advice I can give to anyone is to get quality equipment. It doesn't matter if it cost $20 or $2000, it has to work every time - all the time. From experience, if I have to fight with hardware, I'll light a cigarette just from reflex while I fix it. When I get it fixed I always beat myself up over the cigarette and chain vape to kill the flavor.

Stop fighting with garbage hardware, and buy it from a good reseller and keep yourself going on the right path, the one that you want to be on.

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Fogging out my Bulldog with a 1.2ohm Igo-W on a k101 or an I30 when I don't have time to drip.

Bring on the fog machines!!
*******
About analogs vs ecigs and why ecigs are less dangerous to your health:

http://www.janty.com/en/news/item/vapor-test-results-by-keca

 

[etherealink]

What a wonderful post! Probably partly because it is exactly how I feel about it and can not express it that well. It really is a great post and does tell the tale of a lot of what is going on behind the scenes for a long term smoker who is trying to quit and is have difficulty doing so. You just saved a bunch of us thousands of dollars on the psychiatrist's couch. I am serious about that. Many go through this and can not figure out what the problem is.

There are other factors involved too, don't get me wrong. But what you talked about is a biggy.

Exactly, admit it or not, the chemicals in cigarettes are more addictive than any other street drug out there. We, who wish to quit, have a mountain to overcome just with the chemical addiction alone. Then we have the additional factors that come to play and it just gets more complex.

And yes, I didn't say it, but thank you for saying something that I couldn't form into words.

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Fogging out my Bulldog with a 1.2ohm Igo-W on a k101 or an I30 when I don't have time to drip.

Bring on the fog machines!!
*******
About analogs vs ecigs and why ecigs are less dangerous to your health:

http://www.janty.com/en/news/item/vapor-test-results-by-keca

 

[mountainbikermark]

Very well put. For me, I am addicted to nicotine, and my PVs help there, but I really do believe that I still think of my cigarettes as old friends.

I don't get those awful cravings and the sick to my stomach and jittery feeling I used to get when I didn't vape, but I still really want that comfortable old friend feeling every now and again.

It's funny that I still feel that way, in spite of the fact that I think of myself as an ex-smoker/non-smoker.

My mom died in 1989. I still miss her from time to time because we were pretty close, even after I reached adulthood, got married, etc.
Guess what was there to help me grieve when she died? My best buddy. When my first wife decided she didn't want to be married anymore, took my kids with her, guess what was there for me. My best buddy.
Through every great event, every tragedy and everything in between my best buddy has been there. Celebrate the birth of a child by doing something that could make my life with them shorter or less enjoyable. Take some time with my best buddy. Yup I've been there.
I went to a quit smoking class at a local hospital years ago. The doctor giving the class was point blank about cigarettes becoming closer than a body part. I didn't realize for the longest what he was talking about but now I do .
I watched the effects of smoking turn my dad from a strapping strong man to a fragile physically rotten shell that even the emphysema , from lack of oxygen, took his mind before God mercifully took his life but it didn't phase me and my best buddies relationship.
I don't know if I'll ever get totally over losing my best buddy but I've made it this far without my mom and dad so I'll survive. My best buddy calls every now and then to remind me of how faithful it was for over 2/3 of my life. Most times I ignore the call, eventually I'll stop answering all together.

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[mountainbikermark]

What a wonderful post! Probably partly because it is exactly how I feel about it and can not express it that well. It really is a great post and does tell the tale of a lot of what is going on behind the scenes for a long term smoker who is trying to quit and is have difficulty doing so. You just saved a bunch of us thousands of dollars on the psychiatrist's couch. I am serious about that. Many go through this and can not figure out what the problem is.

There are other factors involved too, don't get me wrong. But what you talked about is a biggy.

I only know how to put words into word pictures to describe things. Drives most people nuts until one of my "stories" relates to them.


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[fpkites]

This is what flavor ADD looks like

MBV Cinnamon Roll in a PT2
Rocket Fuel Vapes Razz My Berry in an iTaste 16
Apothecarium E-Liquid "Kinky" in an EVOD

I've been rotating between the 3 for the past several hours...lol!

 

[Topdogie01]

ok.. so local ecig store has gotten a little better, but only a little. they have more in house flavors. still $8 for 10ml (more like 12ml because they are filled to the top). $6 PER protank head. $6 per CE4 or the replaceable ce4 style one (no clue what they are called, i like bottom coils). they have the hammer mod. and the coolfire 2. and the magneto. the mods are comparable pricing. a k100 kit.. k100, 1 battery and charger, ce4 and a bottle of liquid for $70. (way overpriced IMHO) the magneto is priced a few dollars more than i could get online so i may get that later from them. and only a few drippers that seem to be the cheaper knockoffs (but still workable) that are small. they seem to be mostly selling to new vapers rather than people that are looking to upgrade. tried to talk to the worker but alot of people were coming in and asking alot of noobish questions and seemed more interested in taking her lunch break.

 

[Topdogie01]

and the switch on the hammer mod was either locked (i was trying to get it to move to see how much pressure it took to see if i even wanted one or not..) and the sales rep took it from me, told me that you "just screw it in and take a hit, then unscrew it". uhm no.. there should be a switch you press to make contact. the magneto has a nice smooth switch, and the

 

[ShariR]

Did you lose your internet connection Top? Looks like you dropped off mid sentence. Does not sound like she knows how to work Magneto or maybe it is a knockoff of a knockoff and there is no switch. Would not be surprised if that was the case. Switches may be expensive.

 

[Topdogie01]

yep, was posting part from my phone, said i lost connection so i got home and saw it posted only part (?!) and typed more. lost train of thought. it wasnt the magneto that was stumping me, it was the hammer mod. a little 18350 (i think?) pipe mod

 

[aikanae1]

ok.. so local ecig store has gotten a little better, but only a little. they have more in house flavors. still $8 for 10ml (more like 12ml because they are filled to the top). $6 PER protank head. $6 per CE4 or the replaceable ce4 style one (no clue what they are called, i like bottom coils). they have the hammer mod. and the coolfire 2. and the magneto. the mods are comparable pricing. a k100 kit.. k100, 1 battery and charger, ce4 and a bottle of liquid for $70. (way overpriced IMHO) the magneto is priced a few dollars more than i could get online so i may get that later from them. and only a few drippers that seem to be the cheaper knockoffs (but still workable) that are small. they seem to be mostly selling to new vapers rather than people that are looking to upgrade. tried to talk to the worker but alot of people were coming in and asking alot of noobish questions and seemed more interested in taking her lunch break.

The store sounds new. Hopefully they will adapt as their clientel becomes more experienced.

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[ShariR]

In case I forgot to tell you all, I am going to dip my toe in the RBA waters. I have obtained an Igo-L and a little wire. I need to order more wire. Have all kinds of cotton so am set there. The hard part is winding a successful coil. My hands and eyes do not want to cooperate at all. Got a partial handle on the eyes with stronger reading glasses. Now for the hands. It is harder to take that little stuff apart and wind wire around a tiny drill bit. I am no good at it.

So in my wanderings here on ECF I found a thread talking about this thing. Since I know some of us do make coils or are intimidated by it, like me, I thought I would post, first the short video, and second the hobby shop that has the jig thingy for less than $10. If it is as easy as it is in the video, I should be set. Just a warning, the jig thingy is out of stock but I think Michaels and Hobby Lobby carry it. Not sure.

Micro Coil 101 - Making A Perfect Micro Coil Using The Coil Gizmo By Artistic Wire - YouTube

Artistic Wire's Coiling Gizmo Deluxe Econo Winder - Lima Beads

What do you all think? Would save a bunch of money on all those coils and heads if it works I am pretty sure the wire is under $10 for 100ft at Temco. Cotton balls are real cheap.

 

[etherealink]

In case I forgot to tell you all, I am going to dip my toe in the RBA waters. I have obtained an Igo-L and a little wire. I need to order more wire. Have all kinds of cotton so am set there. The hard part is winding a successful coil. My hands and eyes do not want to cooperate at all. Got a partial handle on the eyes with stronger reading glasses. Now for the hands. It is harder to take that little stuff apart and wind wire around a tiny drill bit. I am no good at it.

So in my wanderings here on ECF I found a thread talking about this thing. Since I know some of us do make coils or are intimidated by it, like me, I thought I would post, first the short video, and second the hobby shop that has the jig thingy for less than $10. If it is as easy as it is in the video, I should be set. Just a warning, the jig thingy is out of stock but I think Michaels and Hobby Lobby carry it. Not sure.

Micro Coil 101 - Making A Perfect Micro Coil Using The Coil Gizmo By Artistic Wire - YouTube

Artistic Wire's Coiling Gizmo Deluxe Econo Winder - Lima Beads

What do you all think? Would save a bunch of money on all those coils and heads if it works I am pretty sure the wire is under $10 for 100ft at Temco. Cotton balls are real cheap.

First stop working too hard, I rock a 1.1 ohm single coil for pennies with 28 ga wire and ekowool. About 5 wraps and most apvs will fire. I would suggest something like the kamry $28 online not counting batteries and amazing vapor with only seconds of work.

If you have a much I would be happy to send you a few coils in the 1.2-1.5 range (allowing for cheap meter) any time.

I Vape 1.1-1.3 ohms on ekowool all day and love it. Just have a good meter and batteries and get at it!!


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Fogging out my Bulldog with a 1.2ohm Igo-W on a k101 or an I30 when I don't have time to drip.

Bring on the fog machines!!
*******
About analogs vs ecigs and why ecigs are less dangerous to your health:

http://www.janty.com/en/news/item/vapor-test-results-by-keca

 

[etherealink]

In case I forgot to tell you all, I am going to dip my toe in the RBA waters. I have obtained an Igo-L and a little wire. I need to order more wire. Have all kinds of cotton so am set there. The hard part is winding a successful coil. My hands and eyes do not want to cooperate at all. Got a partial handle on the eyes with stronger reading glasses. Now for the hands. It is harder to take that little stuff apart and wind wire around a tiny drill bit. I am no good at it.

So in my wanderings here on ECF I found a thread talking about this thing. Since I know some of us do make coils or are intimidated by it, like me, I thought I would post, first the short video, and second the hobby shop that has the jig thingy for less than $10. If it is as easy as it is in the video, I should be set. Just a warning, the jig thingy is out of stock but I think Michaels and Hobby Lobby carry it. Not sure.

Micro Coil 101 - Making A Perfect Micro Coil Using The Coil Gizmo By Artistic Wire - YouTube

Artistic Wire's Coiling Gizmo Deluxe Econo Winder - Lima Beads

What do you all think? Would save a bunch of money on all those coils and heads if it works I am pretty sure the wire is under $10 for 100ft at Temco. Cotton balls are real cheap.

BTW drop the jig... only 5 wraps on 28 ga with 3ml ekowool gives you around 1.4ohms. Just learn your meter and trust it.

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Fogging out my Bulldog with a 1.2ohm Igo-W on a k101 or an I30 when I don't have time to drip.

Bring on the fog machines!!
*******
About analogs vs ecigs and why ecigs are less dangerous to your health:

http://www.janty.com/en/news/item/vapor-test-results-by-keca

 

[twgbonehead]

In case I forgot to tell you all, I am going to dip my toe in the RBA waters. I have obtained an Igo-L and a little wire. I need to order more wire. Have all kinds of cotton so am set there. The hard part is winding a successful coil. My hands and eyes do not want to cooperate at all. Got a partial handle on the eyes with stronger reading glasses. Now for the hands. It is harder to take that little stuff apart and wind wire around a tiny drill bit. I am no good at it.

So in my wanderings here on ECF I found a thread talking about this thing. Since I know some of us do make coils or are intimidated by it, like me, I thought I would post, first the short video, and second the hobby shop that has the jig thingy for less than $10. If it is as easy as it is in the video, I should be set. Just a warning, the jig thingy is out of stock but I think Michaels and Hobby Lobby carry it. Not sure.

Micro Coil 101 - Making A Perfect Micro Coil Using The Coil Gizmo By Artistic Wire - YouTube

Artistic Wire's Coiling Gizmo Deluxe Econo Winder - Lima Beads

What do you all think? Would save a bunch of money on all those coils and heads if it works I am pretty sure the wire is under $10 for 100ft at Temco. Cotton balls are real cheap.

Cool! Amazon has several vendors for this, like:
Amazon.com: Artistic Wire Coiling Gizmo(R) Deluxe Winder for Jewelry Making: Arts, Crafts & Sewing

(Note that there are 2 different versions, the "Deluxe" version has 5 different-sized rods, the regular version has only 2).

Many people seem to like the gizmo. Haven't tried it myself, though.

 

[JJ1977]

im around lol just lurkin

 

[JJ1977]

Very well put. For me, I am addicted to nicotine, and my PVs help there, but I really do believe that I still think of my cigarettes as old friends.

I don't get those awful cravings and the sick to my stomach and jittery feeling I used to get when I didn't vape, but I still really want that comfortable old friend feeling every now and again.

It's funny that I still feel that way, in spite of the fact that I think of myself as an ex-smoker/non-smoker.

lol the smell is what keeps me away hate the smell of cig smoke

 

[Claudia P]

I have made a couple of coils using DI's coil jig and I think it just takes time and practice, my first one was a success but I was very very clumsy. I have heard from some people that that Artistic gizmo works very nicely. I have a tweezer set with a ton of them that I use for my vinyl cutting thingy and I've found that the very pointed ones are a huge help for both installing a coil and for wicks.

Be prepared for the first few hits to taste yukky even with organic cotton, but that goes away quickly.

Now wish me luck as my first mech mod arrived today and I haven't the foggiest idea how to use it with it's bottom fire button, but it is very very pretty. Still looking for an inline volt meter for it and probably a kick too, my plan for the inline volt meter is to be able to check how much battery I have left quickly and easily without having to remove the battery, I don't plan to leave it on the mod all the time. I want to be safe though.

I got the HCigar two tone Nemesis clone and with all tubes it is a hair taller than the standard ProVari, maybe a quarter of an inch. I am surprised at how small it really is, the pics online make everything look huge.

Oh and I guess I should tell you all that I won the GotVapes weekly contest again. The Evod kit will make a nice backup for out and about and I'm going to try their peach cobbler juice. The caramel apple I got from them is pretty good so hoping this one will be too.

In case I forgot to tell you all, I am going to dip my toe in the RBA waters. I have obtained an Igo-L and a little wire. I need to order more wire. Have all kinds of cotton so am set there. The hard part is winding a successful coil. My hands and eyes do not want to cooperate at all. Got a partial handle on the eyes with stronger reading glasses. Now for the hands. It is harder to take that little stuff apart and wind wire around a tiny drill bit. I am no good at it.

So in my wanderings here on ECF I found a thread talking about this thing. Since I know some of us do make coils or are intimidated by it, like me, I thought I would post, first the short video, and second the hobby shop that has the jig thingy for less than $10. If it is as easy as it is in the video, I should be set. Just a warning, the jig thingy is out of stock but I think Michaels and Hobby Lobby carry it. Not sure.

Micro Coil 101 - Making A Perfect Micro Coil Using The Coil Gizmo By Artistic Wire - YouTube

Artistic Wire's Coiling Gizmo Deluxe Econo Winder - Lima Beads

What do you all think? Would save a bunch of money on all those coils and heads if it works I am pretty sure the wire is under $10 for 100ft at Temco. Cotton balls are real cheap.

 

[Claudia P]

I think she is trying to do micro coils with cotton wicks, that is what I am using and I'm quite happy with it. Cotton wicks take a bit of fiddling until you figure out what works for you, but after that it's a snap.

First stop working too hard, I rock a 1.1 ohm single coil for pennies with 28 ga wire and ekowool. About 5 wraps and most apvs will fire. I would suggest something like the kamry $28 online not counting batteries and amazing vapor with only seconds of work.

If you have a much I would be happy to send you a few coils in the 1.2-1.5 range (allowing for cheap meter) any time.

I Vape 1.1-1.3 ohms on ekowool all day and love it. Just have a good meter and batteries and get at it!!


***********
Fogging out my Bulldog with a 1.2ohm Igo-W on a k101 or an I30 when I don't have time to drip.

Bring on the fog machines!!
*******
About analogs vs ecigs and why ecigs are less dangerous to your health:

Vapor Test Results by Korea Electronic Cigarette Association